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    Has anyone here filed an information before charging someone with a crime? I have to draft one by Friday and I work in family law so I have no idea what it should look like.

    Presumably similar to a complaint listing key facts/ elements of crime/ why probable cause exists to hold the defendant and charge them?

    If someone has an example (I have to do one in Florida for second degree murder) or if someone can find me a form/ template on Westlaw plz PM me for reps.

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    Originally Posted by M1LD_S View Post
    Just took the LSAT, feelin alright about it. Wasnt too difficult. Any other bro's take it today?
    in brah. i had lg lr lr lr rc

    3 straight ****ing lrs. LOL. aiming for a 165+. my first lr section had a type of question where the stimulus had 2 questions based upon it which was a pretty outdated question type. this section was really hard and i bombed it. found out later that it was experimental. thank god. the test was fair. we shall see!
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    Originally Posted by longlivecrestor View Post
    in brah. i had lg lr lr lr rc

    3 straight ****ing lrs. LOL. aiming for a 165+. my first lr section had a type of question where the stimulus had 2 questions based upon it which was a pretty outdated question type. this section was really hard and i bombed it. found out later that it was experimental. thank god. the test was fair. we shall see!
    Damn almost two hours of lr in a row. Yeah the two question stimulus was definitely the experimental. I'm aiming for the same, at least 165.

    I had lg rc lr lr rc

    I thought lg was pretty easy but i ran out of time on the last game and guessed for 2. Lr's seemed about average maybe a little harder. Rc i thought passages were easy but questions were actually challenging which sucks cause I'm usually really good at rc. Anyways congrats to finishing hope we killed it.
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    Originally Posted by BunnyRabbs View Post
    Has anyone here filed an information before charging someone with a crime? I have to draft one by Friday and I work in family law so I have no idea what it should look like.

    Presumably similar to a complaint listing key facts/ elements of crime/ why probable cause exists to hold the defendant and charge them?

    If someone has an example (I have to do one in Florida for second degree murder) or if someone can find me a form/ template on Westlaw plz PM me for reps.

    Thanks in advance!
    How are you doing an information for murder when you do family law? Are you in the family division of court system or are you working with DA in some capacity?

    I'm only licensed in GA so I can't help you anyway but here is George Zimmerman's information for second degree murder:

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...an.charges.pdf
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    Originally Posted by DualRectifier View Post
    How are you doing an information for murder when you do family law? Are you in the family division of court system or are you working with DA in some capacity?

    I'm only licensed in GA so I can't help you anyway but here is George Zimmerman's information for second degree murder:

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...an.charges.pdf

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    Originally Posted by DualRectifier View Post
    How are you doing an information for murder when you do family law? Are you in the family division of court system or are you working with DA in some capacity?

    I'm only licensed in GA so I can't help you anyway but here is George Zimmerman's information for second degree murder:

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...an.charges.pdf
    Perhaps family law in Florida involves a lot of murder as well....
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    Guys.. im in a dilemna.. I wanna be a lawyer ( im a freshman in college) but i've been hearing this crazy talk about lawyers not being able to find jobs nowadays? someone want to clarify please?
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    Originally Posted by whappend12 View Post
    Guys.. im in a dilemna.. I wanna be a lawyer ( im a freshman in college) but i've been hearing this crazy talk about lawyers not being able to find jobs nowadays? someone want to clarify please?
    what makes you want to be a lawyer?
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    Originally Posted by whappend12 View Post
    Guys.. im in a dilemna.. I wanna be a lawyer ( im a freshman in college) but i've been hearing this crazy talk about lawyers not being able to find jobs nowadays? someone want to clarify please?

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    Originally Posted by bballbrett5 View Post
    what makes you want to be a lawyer?
    Always wanted to be a lawyer, have been interested in Law for as long as I can remember.

    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Come back in 7 years when you will actually be getting ready to hit the job market.
    See here's the thing, why not prepare myself for the upcoming years, so I don't end up in 200k in debt and without a profession I paid for.
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    Im a senior and was in the same position as you two above in always wanting to be a lawyer. I still do and that is a future goal but I recently got a great job offer from the company I interned with over the summer and I decided to take it instead of going straight to law school. But if you had asked me a year ago I would have said 100% that I would be going straight to law school. So I cant answer your employment questions about law but definitely keep an open mind and be prepared for chit to change many times and be ready to adjust for that.
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    Originally Posted by whappend12 View Post
    Always wanted to be a lawyer, have been interested in Law for as long as I can remember.


    See here's the thing, why not prepare myself for the upcoming years, so I don't end up in 200k in debt and without a profession I paid for.

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    Originally Posted by whappend12 View Post
    Always wanted to be a lawyer, have been interested in Law for as long as I can remember.
    What kind of lawyer? Do you know what lawyers do? (Serious question--most people don't really know.)

    Not trying to dissuade you. It's just that your statement was really vague.
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    Biglaw market is still pretty ****ty. I know several people without offers at my t6, and I can only imagine how much tougher it is for students at the lower t14. It also seems that people that went straight from UG to law (like myself) did worse than those with several years of work experience. Although I ended up with an offer from a top firm, I'm convinced that my grades should have given me more options than I ultimately had.

    If you are gunning for biglaw, you are playing a game of risk (will you get into a good enough law school, will you get good enough grades at that law school, will you interview well, what will the economy look like, etc). Therefore you should do everything you can to minimize that risk.

    To minimize risk, I recommend choosing a degree that will actually give you job options straight after college. This way you have a solid backup option in case law school doesn't pan out. I studied Philosophy and Poly Sci, which was great but it locked me in to law school. Had I bombed the LSAT, I would have had little choice but to take out massive loans for a second rate law school (through which I would not have gotten biglaw). Furthermore, if you have job options you can gain your two years of experience, save up cash, and enter law school at the same age as the traditional law student.

    A big caveat though, Law schools don't differentiate GPA's based on major, so you'll have to take that into account.

    Lastly, you need to use your time in college to actually figure out if you are interested in the law. Law school is a huge investment and too many people have no idea what they are getting themselves into. I interned for various legal offices and took a lot of law related classes in UG, which helped me realize that I could actually see myself in that profession. If at all possible, you should do an internship with a legal office.
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    Originally Posted by BrbGettingSwole View Post
    Biglaw market is still pretty ****ty. I know several people without offers at my t6, and I can only imagine how much tougher it is for students at the lower t14.
    I can tell you. It sucks.

    It also seems that people that went straight from UG to law (like myself) did worse than those with several years of work experience.
    I noticed the same thing.

    If you are gunning for biglaw, you are playing a game of risk (will you get into a good enough law school, will you get good enough grades at that law school, will you interview well, what will the economy look like, etc). Therefore you should do everything you can to minimize that risk.

    To minimize risk, I recommend choosing a degree that will actually give you job options straight after college. This way you have a solid backup option in case law school doesn't pan out. I studied Philosophy and Poly Sci, which was great but it locked me in to law school. Had I bombed the LSAT, I would have had little choice but to take out massive loans for a second rate law school (through which I would not have gotten biglaw). Furthermore, if you have job options you can gain your two years of experience, save up cash, and enter law school at the same age as the traditional law student.

    A big caveat though, Law schools don't differentiate GPA's based on major, so you'll have to take that into account.

    Lastly, you need to use your time in college to actually figure out if you are interested in the law. Law school is a huge investment and too many people have no idea what they are getting themselves into. I interned for various legal offices and took a lot of law related classes in UG, which helped me realize that I could actually see myself in that profession. If at all possible, you should do an internship with a legal office.
    Excellent advice. Anyone thinking about law school should read and reread the above.
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    Does anyone know of any cases (from any common law jurisdiction) I could cite as an example of precedent producing an objectively unjust outcome?
    Unjust? Explain further, because most of the laws that came from reversals can be unjust. **** man, have you ever heard of Tort Reform?

    But for common law cases, now you're just going down the rabbit hole. Search for something regarding the common law and Property or Tenants. I don't know the case name's for these but if you search for Adverse Possession cases, you will find tons of stuff.
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    Originally Posted by Cootz4DuhSloots View Post
    Does anyone know of any cases (from any common law jurisdiction) I could cite as an example of precedent producing an objectively unjust outcome?
    Look for any cases where bad facts made bad law. For example in a New York case O'Brien v. O'Brien the court held that a professional degree (like a medical or law degree) is marital property that can be distributed in divorce. It seemed justified in that case because of the facts, but that's still a pretty unjust law in a broader sense (imo).
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    Does anyone know of any cases (from any common law jurisdiction) I could cite as an example of precedent producing an objectively unjust outcome?
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    Scored a 101 on the MPRE (needed 85) reps till I'm out law brahs
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