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    Marc Lobliner Natural???

    He won't say one way or the other, but he gains 45lbs of lean mass in 9 weeks? He gets all offended and pissed to hell and leaves bb.com when somebody questions him. Dude, this guy has issues. Here is his old thread that was locked and a whole page of posts deleted because they exposed him for the fraud he is. (I'm sure he'll have this thread deleted or locked too).

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    strong 5 month progress for a natty guy who's been lifting as long as he has

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    you know he openly stated on his blog that he would be doing a cycle? this was around may 2010
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    No, do you have a link? I remember a long time ago on his thread here on bb.com somebody asked him if he ever used prohormones and he said he used them 1 time for 1 day and didn't think they did anything so he stopped, lol. Sure, ya, that makes a lot of sense.
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    yes he is natural....
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    Originally Posted by benzona View Post
    you know he openly stated on his blog that he would be doing a cycle? this was around may 2010
    nvm than I thought I remember him being a natural preacher


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    Originally Posted by StevenNevets View Post
    strong 5 month progress for a natty guy who's been lifting as long as he has

    guy looks natty to me....
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    Interesting that he has all posts in his thread deleted if they even question it at all. You'd think if he was natural, he'd be proud of it for what he's accomplished and state it and competed in a tested organization. His silence speaks volumes. If he uses or not who the hell cares, what bugs me and others online is that he acts as if its the supplements (Xtend) and training and diet. While those play a huge role in it (supplements to a lesser extent), the gear would play a massive role and he isn't mentioning it at all. He's a fraudin....
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    would you even really have to ask that? it's like asking jay cutler if he juices...dumb question
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    Originally Posted by benzona View Post
    would you even really have to ask that? it's like asking jay cutler if he juices...dumb question
    Cutler is way bigger than Marc and I'm pretty sure Cutler would acknowledge that he does.
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    Originally Posted by ScivationSucks1 View Post
    Interesting that he has all posts in his thread deleted if they even question it at all. You'd think if he was natural, he'd be proud of it for what he's accomplished and state it and competed in a tested organization. His silence speaks volumes. If he uses or not who the hell cares, what bugs me and others online is that he acts as if its the supplements (Xtend) and training and diet. While those play a huge role in it (supplements to a lesser extent), the gear would play a massive role and he isn't mentioning it at all. He's a fraudin....
    Obviously hes going to promote his supplement company. Its what puts food on the table for him and his family. But you have to give him credit for following what he preaches. He also never bashed anyone or the whole idea of about Gear use. And he won't mention his AAS use out in the open public especially if he's the CEO of a supplement company.

    edit: and he isn't frauding. Everything what he advertises is true, but he uses marketing techniques in promoting his products. Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't he have a degree in business or something along those lines?
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    Is he your biological father and has never paid child support or something?

    Edit: Also, to clarify, not once has he said he isn't natural since he hasn't been natural. He just doesn't answer the question because it's illegal and he could go to jail...which is like your mother's basement but the guys there actually workout.
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    Why would you even ask that. Of course hes not natural lol. And I rarely ever say that, but the type of physique Marc has requires more than lifting and eating right.
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    Originally Posted by AusPower View Post
    Is he your biological father and has never paid child support or something?

    Edit: Also, to clarify, not once has he said he isn't natural since he hasn't been natural. He just doesn't answer the question because it's illegal and he could go to jail...which is like your mother's basement but the guys there actually workout.
    Yes it is illegal and he could go to jail. With all his preaching about Scivation being different and doing things the right way, IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY? What is he gonna do when the DEA makes an example of a supplement company owner and has the book thrown at him? Think he family will appreciate the court costs and being without a dad?
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    Originally Posted by ScivationSucks1 View Post
    Yes it is illegal and he could go to jail. With all his preaching about Scivation being different and doing things the right way, IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY? What is he gonna do when the DEA makes an example of a supplement company owner and has the book thrown at him? Think he family will appreciate the court costs and being without a dad?
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    No I don't think he's natural.

    But I don't think that makes his physique any less impressive.

    His gains were very motivational to say the least.
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    natural or not he puts in work and at his age , anyone should be happy to achieve half what he has
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    Some great talk about Marc's *supposed* steroid use. (just remove the extra space between :/

    http: //muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bodybuilding/1531-scivation-marc-lobliner-steroids-natural.html

    Of particular note is this:

    Like I said, I've never seen him claim that's he natural, or has never used roids.

    But from a pure numbers stand point it is virtually certain, unless he carries a rare genetic disease similar to giantism, that Marc uses/has used something.

    Franco Columbu was 5'5" 180-185 pounds. When I look at Franco, he looks equal to Marc. I wonder is Marc's weight is inflated?

    And more...

    BTW, I made a mistake. at 5'6", Marc's LBM would be 164...his competition weight would be 177 pounds, at 6% bodyfat. That means Marc is 30 pounds heavier then his natural potential.


    According to Casey Butt's Natural Potential Theory:

    A 5'6" lifter (Marc's height) would have a 166.4 pound lean body mass potential, if they had large wrists (7.5") and were genetically in the top 50%.

    On stage. Marc Lobliner current stands about 23 pounds heavier than the greatest natural champions of all time.

    And more....

    The research that this is based on analyzed 300 natural champions from the last 60 years. It is so accurate, that it predicted the weight of many "old school" bodybuilders by within a pound. This study is about as scientific as anything gets in bodybuilding. Here are some article I recommend for anyone interested:

    Determining Natural Bodybuilding Potential

    Maximum Drug-Free Bodybuilding Potential

    I would add as a reminder that this data was based on genetically superior lifters. So for average lifters like us, it's a goal, and perhaps a difficult one to obtain.

    Muscle growth plateaus are a natural response to the body approaching genetic limits. Again, Casey Butt has studied this subject and the following are considered solid natural growth potentials:

    Year 1 = 16 pounds
    Year 2 = 8 pounds
    Year 3 = 4 pounds
    Year 4 = 2 pounds
    Year 5 = 1 pound

    The "muscle confusion" principle tries to teach us that is we only confuse a muscle, growth will re-start. The reality is this...once we get past beginner gains, muscle growth slows dramatically. We definitely need to continue pushing for more, but the idea that a new routine will tap into a huge spurt of growth is a fallacy - unless we consider a spurt to be a pound of two of muscle over 3 to 6 months.

    I hit my natural potential around 1991. Since then, I have gained one pound of muscle - or at least that's what the calipers tell me. My lean body mass is 178 to 179, which is almost dead nuts for my wrist size according to Dr. Casey Butt's study. At 5'10", Dr. Butt predicted that if I had 7.5" wrists that my LBM potential would be 181.8 pounds. I have small, 6.4" wrists, and my LBM is 178 to 179. I would call that an insanely accurate prediction.

    When I mention my lack of gains over the last 19 years, I have been frequently told that it's either from my lack of hard work, lack of knowledge, or lack of (insert pet belief here). While I don't consider myself Einstein, I don't believe that I am so ignorant that I have forgotten how to train and eat since 1991.

    Another aspect of natural potential is that no natural I have ever encountered has provided proof that they have surpassed these potentials. If they do, they are a rare breed, indeed. In fact, they are larger than John Grimek and Reg Park.

    I do not hold many things to be absolute truths in the iron game, but I do believe that the work on this subject is the Gospel.

    I GUESS THE QUESTION WE SHOULD BE ASKING, IS NOT IS MARC ON ROIDS, BUT:
    DOES MARC HAVE GIANTISM? THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER LOGICAL EXPLANATION.
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    No he is not natural, but I'm pretty sure he also doesn't claim to be natural anymore. The guy also works his ass off so who cares?
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    Originally Posted by ScivationSucks1 View Post
    Yes it is illegal and he could go to jail. With all his preaching about Scivation being different and doing things the right way, IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY? What is he gonna do when the DEA makes an example of a supplement company owner and has the book thrown at him? Think he family will appreciate the court costs and being without a dad?
    dude if hes not dealing or stockpiling tons of it he wouldnt get in much trouble even if he was caught. it wouldnt have sht to do with his cmpny
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    its truly amazing how he bulks up yet stays so lean

    inb4 celltech is a hell of a drug
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    wtf. does he look natty?
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    Originally Posted by bluemarlinO4 View Post
    wtf. does he look natty?
    Check out the link in the first post. No he doesn't. He also likes to say that his results are all because of hard work and diet and his beloved Xtend, while we really know that a very good portion of his results are coming from an injection.
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