Are these programs the best possible programs for gaining mass? I already have some decent size and would like to realistically gain only another 10lbs but every time I look at one of these programs they come off as to simple and nowhere near enough volume. Are these only good for making optimal gains for beginners?
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Thread: 5/3/1, bill star and Ripptoes
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11-21-2010, 04:45 PM #1
5/3/1, bill star and Ripptoes
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11-21-2010, 04:52 PM #2
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These are primarily strength programs, any mass you gain on them is really going to be a function of your diet. You can gain mass on them, but if you're interested in only mass and not so much strength, you might be better off with a more bodybuilder style program.
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11-21-2010, 05:12 PM #3
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11-21-2010, 06:09 PM #9
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In general, i don't think the two are always related, especially when considering bodybuilder type size gains, which may or may not come with increased strength. In terms of SS though, like I said before, its all about strength, and size is just a function of diet. You can get stronger but not bigger, through CNS and muscle memory improvement. I do think at a certain point though, if you don't start getting bigger strength gains will dry up.
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11-21-2010, 06:11 PM #10
5/3/1 can be tailored for mass. Bill Starr 5x5 is mainly strength and mass as a side effect. Rippetoes is primarily strength.
All programs can ellicit mass, but some are less likely to work for most people than others. Going from nothing to something always adds mass, but should not be called optimal for mass.
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11-21-2010, 06:12 PM #11
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11-21-2010, 06:12 PM #12
People make progress following 5 day BB splits aswell as SS. It's really up to you personally. I've done 4-5 day splits before but the strength gain was slow. I'd much rather do something like SS to really hammer those compounds and get that strength up. Then once you are happy with your lifts move onto a body part split using that strength youve gained. This is just my plan/theory. Going to the gym 5 days a week is all good but having ****ty lifts 5 days a week sucks. I also agree with strength comes size. I have yet to see a person who lifts heavy but does not look like they visit the gym.
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