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    Difference between whey protien and casien protien

    Hey guys i was just wondering the difference between whey protien and casien protien, should i drink casien before bed ? Thanks for all the help ahead of time
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    casien takes ~7 hours to digest so its a slow release protein, best taken before bed or times when you know you are going to go awhile without food. Whey is quicker digested
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    Originally Posted by hardasstone View Post
    Hey guys i was just wondering the difference between whey protien and casien protien, should i drink casien before bed ? Thanks for all the help ahead of time
    Casein protein is great to consume before bedtime. It basically forms a gel or "clot" that takes much longer to digest, thus supplying the body with protein for a much longer period (7-8hrs).
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    Simplistically (which is all I truly understand) the whey is more anabolic and digests more quickly. The casein is more anti catabolic and digests more slowly.

    Both together is generally preferred IMO.
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    The shakes i take through the day i make my own 60/40 blend of whey/casein. My post workout shake is straight whey. Before bed i do about 12 ounces of milk + casein protein for teh gainz. Mixing whey and casein is actually a good idea.
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    Originally Posted by consumingfire View Post
    casien takes ~7 hours to digest so its a slow release protein, best taken before bed or times when you know you are going to go awhile without food. Whey is quicker digested
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    What we can gather from these graphs is that the Leucine levels spikes more rapidly in the whey than casein, but the concentration levels drop off much faster with whey than casein.
    Leucine levels in Casein taper off much more smoothly after their peak.

    Honestly, these pictures need to be in a sticky or something, because like the guy above me, I too am sick of seeing **** like "casien takes ~7 hours to digest so its a slow release protein".

    Again, it should be noted that protein protein powders are mostly a convenience thing.
    It's just a lot easier to have, say, 350-400mls of milk with the powder than it is to drink 1.5 liter of milk after your workout.
    I've drank a liter of milk after my workout before due to lacking in protein powder, and noticed no difference in recovery at all.
    The only difference was that my stomach felt bloated and a little painful from ingesting so much liquid at once.
    If you can honestly stomach a ton of milk after a workout, you may as well save your money and just do that, but I know most people, including myself don't want to have to do that.
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    some people describe whey as anabolic, and casein as anti catabolic... I really think it is good to have both in your arsenal but find the anabolic vs anti catabolic thing to be a vast over simplification and think the sustained release would be more beneficial than the rapid release of amino acids if you had to chose one or the other. Luckily, you can get both and have the best of both worlds.

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