Doesn't matter how much you eat - matters only what you eat.

[Mak1n]

Guys, so I have a fella who is into nutrition science and stuff. He agrees that Keto works etc. But in my understanding Keto is just an instrument to consume less calories.

But what he says is that Insulin and hormones is a king of everything, so if you eath tons of meat daily you won't get fat because it will not trigger insulin etc. When I asked what will happed with all those excess energy from food he said that it will be utilized in WC.

His main idea is that calories theory is all wrong and calories matter, only carbs and insulin matters.

Can you give some science based material to prove him wrong or educate myself.

[SuffolkPunch]

Insulin myth busting 101:

https://weightology.net/insulin-an-u...ad-reputation/

Cliff notes:
- insulin doesn't make you fat unless you eat too many calories
- you can get fat without insulin - dietary fat is stored directly without it

[ironwill2008]

Guys, so I have a fella who is into nutrition science and stuff. He agrees that Keto works etc. But in my understanding Keto is just an instrument to consume less calories.

But what he says is that Insulin and hormones is a king of everything, so if you eath tons of meat daily you won't get fat because it will not trigger insulin etc. When I asked what will happed with all those excess energy from food he said that it will be utilized in WC.

His main idea is that calories theory is all wrong and calories matter, only carbs and insulin matters.

Can you give some science based material to prove him wrong or educate myself.

A couple of things, opie:

*Where do people come up with this moronic stuff?

*Protein consumption also triggers insulin response.

*If my TDEE is, say, 2800 calories a day, and I eat "tons of meat" every day to total, say 5000 calories, it shouldn't require "science based material" to see I'm going to get as fat as Jabba The Hut before too long.

*Your "fella"= common sense not even once.







ETA:

This forum, above most other forums on this site excluding the misc, is fraught with incorrect information, poor advice from posters more clueless than those seeking advice, myths, misinformation, spammers selling stupid "fat loss" schemes and pills, and general nonsense.

This "doesn't matter how much you eat" bull**** isn't helping matters.

[jk202]

Sounds like your friend is an idiot. Sorry bro

[FFailed]

Op's friend studying "science and stuff"

[GunsNsteak]

A couple of things, opie:

*Where do people come up with this moronic stuff?

*Protein consumption also triggers insulin response.

*If my TDEE is, say, 2800 calories a day, and I eat "tons of meat" every day to total, say 5000 calories, it shouldn't require "science based material" to see I'm going to get as fat as Jabba The Hut before too long.

*Your "fella"= common sense not even once.







ETA:

This forum, above most other forums on this site excluding the misc, is fraught with incorrect information, poor advice from posters more clueless than those seeking advice, myths, misinformation, spammers selling stupid "fat loss" schemes and pills, and general nonsense.

This "doesn't matter how much you eat" bull**** isn't helping matters.

This^^ and ripped for keeping it to tha point.

[Dorich]

in on worst thread of 2018

[davisj3537]

His main idea is that calories theory is all wrong

When someone says that everyone else is wrong, the burden of proof is on them...your friend is an idiot.

Now back to why I came in this thread in the first place...let the memes commence.

[StrivenMike]

Now back to why I came in this thread in the first place...let the memes commence.

Your wish is my command....

[LuckyAH]

Guys, so I have a fella who is into nutrition science and stuff. He agrees that Keto works etc. But in my understanding Keto is just an instrument to consume less calories.

But what he says is that Insulin and hormones is a king of everything, so if you eath tons of meat daily you won't get fat because it will not trigger insulin etc. When I asked what will happed with all those excess energy from food he said that it will be utilized in WC.

His main idea is that calories theory is all wrong and calories matter, only carbs and insulin matters.

Can you give some science based material to prove him wrong or educate myself.

Protein consumption will cause a release of insulin. Also, considering the satiating effect of protein, maybe he eats as much meat as he could but doesn't put on fat because he remains below his TDEE. In any case, it's about calories in vs calories out. Anyone trying to refute that is a crackpot.

[Dorich]

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[maroonls1z]

I am a doctor and I regularly write nutrition for patients. First thing you do is calculate BEE(basil energy expenditure) saying calories do not matter is very stupid and surprisingly this isnt the first time ive heard it. Usually from people that say “calories dont matter as long as you hit your macros” because they are idiots and dont realize a macronutrient has a specific amount of calories