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    No weight gain from Creatine

    Since I am bulking I wanted to use creatine for the weight gain. After loading 20g a day for a week my weight has not had any dramatic increase. I drink more than my body weight in oz's so i get enough water.

    The creatine I am using is the generic GNC monohydrate. Could that be it? I feel like I can lift more but it could be a placebo effect.
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    Originally Posted by flipxxx View Post
    Since I am bulking I wanted to use creatine for the weight gain. After loading 20g a day for a week my weight has not had any dramatic increase. I drink more than my body weight in oz's so i get enough water.

    The creatine I am using is the generic GNC monohydrate. Could that be it? I feel like I can lift more but it could be a placebo effect.
    Just what do you expect from creatine?
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    Yea I am increasing my weight through food, i just thought that the creatine would have an immediate effect from loading.
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    Originally Posted by flipxxx View Post
    Yea I am increasing my weight through food, i just thought that the creatine would have an immediate effect from loading.
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    Lol. Weird responses ITT.

    You sure you haven't experienced any weight gain? Were you weighing yourself consistently before taking it?

    Not everone responds to creatine, if it's helping with your lifts (even just in placebo form although it should help with ATP) carry on.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    Lol. Weird responses ITT.

    You sure you haven't experienced any weight gain? Were you weighing yourself consistently before taking it?

    Not everone responds to creatine, if it's helping with your lifts (even just in placebo form although it should help with ATP) carry on.


    No, I haven't experienced any weight gain. Of course I've been gaining constant weight through food at a rate of 1 lb per week. No effect from creatine after loading while bulking.
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    how did i know before i finished reading you would say you got it from GNC. Tried their creatine and did nothing, jumped onto another brand and noticed extra energy and slight weight gain (water).
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    maby you just dont respond to it i put on 4 kilos in a week lol

    drinking enuf water?
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    not everyone has a dramatic response to it
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    Originally Posted by Delusional View Post
    not everyone has a dramatic response to it
    Op, you are this guys username.
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    Originally Posted by flipxxx View Post
    Since I am bulking I wanted to use creatine for the weight gain. After loading 20g a day for a week my weight has not had any dramatic increase. I drink more than my body weight in oz's so i get enough water.

    The creatine I am using is the generic GNC monohydrate. Could that be it? I feel like I can lift more but it could be a placebo effect.
    Considering the whole "loading phase" myth has been debunked many times before. So let me start off by saying you could have just took the maintenance dosage of 3-5g pre, or post workout, not 20g like people suggest for "loading"

    You will get the same benefits and have your creatine last you longer by using the 3-5g dosage rather than the 20g loading phase dosage for 1-2 weeks(depending on how long u do it for).

    If its kre-alkalyn creatine you will not retain any water, thus not gain weight. The only weight you would gain would be lean muscle mass, and some awesome strength gains.

    Not sure why you are not gaining weight from a loading phase, but it would most likely be between not drinking enough water(usually people get headaches if they dont drink enough water), or plainly not eating enough.
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    Originally Posted by Joelsopher View Post
    Considering the whole "loading phase" myth has been debunked many times before. So let me start off by saying you could have just took the maintenance dosage of 3-5g pre, or post workout, not 20g like people suggest for "loading"

    You will get the same benefits and have your creatine last you longer by using the 3-5g dosage rather than the 20g loading phase dosage for 1-2 weeks(depending on how long u do it for).

    If its kre-alkalyn creatine you will not retain any water, thus not gain weight. The only weight you would gain would be lean muscle mass, and some awesome strength gains.

    Not sure why you are not gaining weight from a loading phase, but it would most likely be between not drinking enough water(usually people get headaches if they dont drink enough water), or plainly not eating enough.
    THanks for the reply.

    I know I drink enough water, maybe even more than enough. I know I am eating a lot too (GOMAD).

    Maybe it could be the GNC brand of creatine.
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    I had the oposite of that problem. I gained too much weight, lol. I think around 8 pounds the week after loading (2 weeks). I used a store brand Creatine too... but I haven't been responding since...
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    I guess everyone's body reacts differently too it, i gained about 10 pounds roughly off a month of creatine... I was also hititng the gym hard, taking mass gainer, beta alanine, and eatting tons.. creatine is just a supplement
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    im using Pro labs creatine mono, and i have experienced some strength gains in the gym, but my weight gain hasnt changed pace on my bulk, which is good IMO, since its not water weight. I think people just respond differently, if your having strength gains i dont see the problem.
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    i've ran creatine a few times and never held water really seems strange most guys i no get puffy faced and hold a **** ton of water some people respond better i suppose.
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    Originally Posted by Joelsopher View Post
    If its kre-alkalyn creatine you will not retain any water, thus not gain weight. The only weight you would gain would be lean muscle mass, and some awesome strength gains.
    This is nothing but supplement manufacturer bull****.
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    wtf I just got on my loading phase of creatine 3rd day in biceps up from 14.5 to 15 and weight gone up from 82kg to 83kg which is a 2.2lb gain. Also the creatine is about 3 months out of date so it's meant to be less effective and I only get like 3 liters of water a day, not the standard recommended 6 liters.
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    Originally Posted by omegagridiron11 View Post
    eat 1300+ calories a day
    Thats not nearly enough. Why doesn't anybody follow the moto "Go big or go home"...your not going to get big eating nothing & no supplement is a magical cure.
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    Originally Posted by AirChair View Post
    This is nothing but supplement manufacturer bull****.
    Really? Once again im brought upon myself to ask this question:

    So our millions of users are gaining water weight instead of lean muscle mass? I believe that shredded lean muscle looks COMPLETELY different than WATER-WEIGHT. Heheh
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    Originally Posted by Joelsopher View Post
    Really? Once again im brought upon myself to ask this question:

    So our millions of users are gaining water weight instead of lean muscle mass? I believe that shredded lean muscle looks COMPLETELY different than WATER-WEIGHT. Heheh

    I REALLY dont think you have your facts up to par because no professional or amateur athlete would use PURPLE-K or any kre-alkalyn product during there weeks of cutting if it had them gaining water weight, dont you ?

    We all have opinions here, if you believe it makes your body retain water then be it, but i have my facts straightened out and read defined lab studies proving that kre-alkalyn does not make you retain water. It is buffered for a reason, not just to make it sound special.
    **** just got real.

    all of your posts are some kind of plug for the products of "fusion bodybuilding" anyway
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    GNC Creatine Mono = Trash

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    Originally Posted by Joelsopher View Post
    Really? Once again im brought upon myself to ask this question:

    So our millions of users are gaining water weight instead of lean muscle mass? I believe that shredded lean muscle looks COMPLETELY different than WATER-WEIGHT. Heheh

    I REALLY dont think you have your facts up to par because no professional or amateur athlete would use PURPLE-K or any kre-alkalyn product during there weeks of cutting if it had them gaining water weight, dont you ?

    We all have opinions here, if you believe it makes your body retain water then be it, but i have my facts straightened out and read defined lab studies proving that kre-alkalyn does not make you retain water. It is buffered for a reason, not just to make it sound special.
    Provide me any sort of evidence that there's a different pathway by which kre-alkalyn is processed and we'll talk. The 'studies' you're referring to are almost certainly commissioned and paid for by companies with a vested interest.

    Until then, you should look up the studies that show that creatine doesn't affect fluid distribution. They've been done. That means no "water bloat". It's actually impossible to distort fluid distribution outside certain parameters for an extended period of time...kinda flies in the face of that 'homeostasis' thing the human body has the audacity to want to maintain.

    Professionals use kre-alkalyn because they're sponsored by companies that want them to. Layne Norton has already answered anecdotal evidence with his own, stating that he's used less 'exotic' forms and had no problems getting on stage.

    Point: Kre-Alkalyn is just a novel repackaging with the exact same effects as the parent product from which it's derived.
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    Originally Posted by Joelsopher View Post
    Really? Once again im brought upon myself to ask this question:

    So our millions of users are gaining water weight instead of lean muscle mass? I believe that shredded lean muscle looks COMPLETELY different than WATER-WEIGHT. Heheh

    I REALLY dont think you have your facts up to par because no professional or amateur athlete would use PURPLE-K or any kre-alkalyn product during there weeks of cutting if it had them gaining water weight, dont you ?

    We all have opinions here, if you believe it makes your body retain water then be it, but i have my facts straightened out and read defined lab studies proving that kre-alkalyn does not make you retain water. It is buffered for a reason, not just to make it sound special.
    no nut thug, but he's a genius. i would take his word over yours.
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    do 5ga before workout and 5g after ull will see great results
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    Originally Posted by lachygee View Post
    do 5ga before workout and 5g after ull will see great results
    Ten grams is too much, you have no idea what your talking about.
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    Originally Posted by Jellyrolls View Post
    GNC Creatine Mono = Trash

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    GNC mono is far from trash buddy, it's inexpensive and effective if used correctly.
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