Calling out NATURALGRAHAM4!!!

[davidkap]

bro i was nearly 200lbs in every photo u posted there, I quit lifting for 9 months when i was 20. Dropped down to 175, before that i had never been over 185lbs. When i restarted i sky rocketed up to 200lbs within two years.. so i did gain a lot of muscle in between my 21 and 23rd birthday, but other than my muscle memory im sure anyone could do the same.

in after sh!tstorm

[vik_man]

anyone with "natural" in their username isn't natural

[Naturalgraham4]

Interesting.

So if you weren't hiding anything why did you delete the thread?

i said i was going to delete like 2 pages before, it was 4am, i challenged anyone to point out a side effect on my 200 photos, this douche posts some photos and an explanation which makes no sense... pretty much he thinks im not natural because i hit my weight limit?... i still dont get it

[Big Slim DaDDy]

If he is a liar, he is one of thousands of liars on this website. There are literally thousands of people here that if you popped the question they would lie to you. He's not going to admit it no matter how much "evidence" you post up so why even bother making finger pointing threads?

[nohcOR]

haters gonna hate?

[burnedfish]

anyone with "natural" in their username isn't natural

anyone with "man" in their username isn't a man

[CCAurora]

The guys that go out of their way - unsolicited - to go on and on about being natural are ALWAYS the ones hiding something.

If I cycled, I'd want everyone here to know TBH haha

[snorlaxxx]

If he is a liar, he is one of thousands of liars on this website. There are literally thousands of people here that if you popped the question they would lie to you. He's not going to admit it no matter how much "evidence" you post up so why even bother making finger pointing threads?

thats true but viper admitted it after pretty much undeniable evidence lol.

[TenzinGyatso]

anyone with "man" in their username isn't a man

anyone with fish in their name isn't a fish.




























































inb4 anyone with tenzingyatso in their name isn't the dalai lama

[-MarkX-]

Just admit you're on tech who cares lol

[TerRyOsuLLivan]

The thing that irks me most up these natural claimants is they never seem to have any bulk pictures. I don't know how these guys are capable of gaining 50+ pounds of lean mass with zero fat gain

[Ek2]

you guys are idiots.


no nut hug but..

pics are taken from 22-26. There is little change because HE HAS REACHED HIS GENETIC POTENTIAL. This SUPPORTS the fact that he is natural.

The pic of him at 21, he is still pretty jacked/has a great physique. That means he was probably about 70% of the way to his goal. You do not think he can gain 20 lbs of LBM in 2 years of solid diet and training?

-If he was on juice his physique would have changed, and it didn't.
-what he achieved between 16-21 and absolutely possible naturally.
-26-22 = 4, and there is 4 pics. BUT if hes 26 now, 25 before, 24 before, 23 before.. where is his 22 year old pic? there is not one. SO there is 2 years separating his 21 pic and the first of the 'arnie classic' pics.
-this leaves 2 years to go from 21yr old pic to 2007 arnold classic pic. If you think that 'transformation' is impossible without juice, your a ****in retard

[Naturalgraham4]

anyone with "man" in their username isn't a man

anyone with fish in his username is a fish? haha

i dont get why people get so mad i put that there, ive been a dedicated natural bodybuilder for nearly a decade now, natural bodybuilding is a sport i compete in. you guys would crucify jesus.

[burnedfish]

anyone with fish in their name isn't a fish.

inb4 anyone with tenzingyatso in their name isn't the dalai lama

[img]http://www.wisdomofforgiveness.com/images/dalailama.jpg[img]

lmao!

If you are the dalai lama, wanna come over and chill this afternoon?

[craig84]

who gives a shiit if he cycled. i cycled. whats the big deal. don't get why somebody wastes time to go out of their way to prove somebody did a cycle of steroids.

[TerRyOsuLLivan]

anyone with fish in his username is a fish? haha

i dont get why people get so mad i put that there, ive been a dedicated natural bodybuilder for nearly a decade now, natural bodybuilding is a sport i compete in. you guys would crucify jesus.

From your pics it looks like you've only ever made lean gains though. For someone of your size, this seems almost impossible. How did you do it? How did you ensure that your body didn't use any of the caloric surplus to lay down fat stores?

[ultimaet_solder]

true, curtis blew up fast and now he's on the slow train

there is similar evidence regarding curtis apparent 'natural' state. exact same thing, he started at 15-16 as a stick insect. at 19 or so he had been working out for years and had a decent natural physique, noob gains well gone by that stage, then between 19-20 he EXPLODED. clearly when he started juicing, then from 20-25 stayed much the same as he had already reached the level he wanted to with his juice. you'd have to be a total dumbass to believe this graham tard or curtis are natural..

[Amsterdammerr]

Offcourse hes fukin juicin
When will you FUKTARDS ever learn, when??????? havent there been enough cases of cheaters, liars...oh so trusted people who got caught


























































WHEN YOU WILL LEARN *******S?

[ultimaet_solder]

you guys are idiots.


no nut hug but..

pics are taken from 22-26. There is little change because HE HAS REACHED HIS GENETIC POTENTIAL. This SUPPORTS the fact that he is natural.

The pic of him at 21, he is still pretty jacked/has a great physique. That means he was probably about 70% of the way to his goal. You do not think he can gain 20 lbs of LBM in 2 years of solid diet and training?

-If he was on juice his physique would have changed, and it didn't.
-what he achieved between 16-21 and absolutely possible naturally.
-26-22 = 4, and there is 4 pics. BUT if hes 26 now, 25 before, 24 before, 23 before.. where is his 22 year old pic? there is not one. SO there is 2 years separating his 21 pic and the first of the 'arnie classic' pics.
-this leaves 2 years to go from 21yr old pic to 2007 arnold classic pic. If you think that 'transformation' is impossible without juice, your a ****in retard

uhh, you think if you juice you gain 20lbs a year every year you are on it? you really are retarded. most people gain 20-30 lbs from their first cycle ONLY. and from then are lucky to gain 2-4 pounds if anything from every successive cycle, unless they up the dose ro a ridiculous level or start adding in hgh/insulin etc. get a clue

edit - oh and no, it is impossible to gain 20lbs in lbm 2 years naturally once you are past noob gains. no one can do that. the fact you think you can is enough on it's own to prove you are a total retard

[TenzinGyatso]

lmao!

If you are the dalai lama, wanna come over and chill this afternoon?

If you can, help others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them. peace ma nikka.

[Ek2]

uhh, you think if you juice you gain 20lbs a year every year you are on it? you really are retarded. most people gain 20-30 lbs from their first cycle ONLY. and from then are lucky to gain 2-4 pounds if anything from every successive cycle, unless they up the dose or start adding in hcg/insulin etc. get a clue

are you seriously responding to me when you're ****ing 17 years old?

I'm not even going to bother, I've done more steroid research then you even know exists. 20-30 lbs in one cycle? LMAO.

2-4 lbs each successive cycle? LMAO. There are TONNES of different compounds and mixtures people constantly use after an intro cycle. Obviously I can't go into detail..

If ANYBODY could only gain 2-4lbs in 3 months (typical 12 week cycle) then nobody would take steroids at all. Zyzz put on like 60-80 lbs of pure lbm in 2 years, and he is but ONE example.

teen misc -->

edit - oh and no, it is impossible to gain 20lbs in 2 years naturally once you are past noob gains. no one can do that

lmao, this seals the deal. You honestly think it's impossible to gain .83 lbs of lean body mass per month of training and dieting properly?

gtfo

[ultimaet_solder]

are you seriously responding to me when you're ****ing 17 years old?

I'm not even going to bother, I've done more steroid research then you even know exists.

teen misc -->

what's that, you have no evidence to the contrary of what i said? so you pick on something pointless like my age? typical response of someone who doesn't know what the **** they are talking about. show me all the logs of people who have done 3-4 cycles of test and gained 20lbs off each. are you actually retarded? if that were possible everyone would be walking around the size of ifbb pros. it's impossible, juice only raises your natural limit, the more you take, the more you raise it. but you will still hit a limit. hgh and insulin pushes this limit much further, but i am doubting most people ie graham would **** around with this ****, looks like he's reached his 'juice' limit.

[ign_fan_4life]

Natural Graham is the true god of the misc. He has the size and unmatched aesthetics.


(no homo)

[craig84]

are you seriously responding to me when you're ****ing 17 years old?

I'm not even going to bother, I've done more steroid research then you even know exists. 20-30 lbs in one cycle? LMAO.

2-4 lbs each successive cycle? LMAO. There are TONNES of different compounds and mixtures people constantly use after an intro cycle. Obviously I can't go into detail..

If ANYBODY could only gain 2-4lbs in 3 months (typical 12 week cycle) then nobody would take steroids at all. Zyzz put on like 60-80 lbs of pure lbm in 2 years, and he is but ONE example.

teen misc -->





lmao, this seals the deal. You honestly think it's impossible to gain .83 lbs of lean body mass per month of training and dieting properly?

gtfo

lol 60-80 lbs. so he went from say 165 to 240. lul

[Ek2]

what's that, you have no evidence to the contrary of what i said? so you pick on something pointless like my age? typical response of someone who doesn't know what the **** they are talking about. show me all the logs of people who have done 3-4 cycles of test and gained 20lbs off each. are you actually retarded? if that were possible everyone would be walking around the size of ifbb pros. it's impossible, juice only raises your natural limit, the more you take, the more you raise it. but you will still hit a limit. hgh and insulin pushes this limit much further, but i am doubting most people ie graham would **** around with this ****, looks like he's reached his 'juice' limit.

read over my post. can't discuss aas here so there ya go buddy. if you want some real steroid info, go use google.


you are saying anything right now, stop

lol 60-80 lbs. so he went from say 165 to 240. lul

he started at 130 lbs. and yes, he went from 130 to 200-210.

[AdamDTX]

it's pretty obvious that he juiced...but he always has dat dere genetics.

i requested 3 times for him to swear on his mothers life that he is natural and declined 3 times.

lol wat are you 8 years old?

your proof is that he wouldn't swear on his moms life?

[KingValentino]

he is not natty, no hate its just clear as daylight

[Inurthreadz]

there is similar evidence regarding curtis apparent 'natural' state. exact same thing, he started at 15-16 as a stick insect. at 19 or so he had been working out for years and had a decent natural physique, noob gains well gone by that stage, then between 19-20 he EXPLODED. clearly when he started juicing, then from 20-25 stayed much the same as he had already reached the level he wanted to with his juice. you'd have to be a total dumbass to believe this graham tard or curtis are natural..

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[BetaPhaggot]

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