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    Got my new .300 AAC (7.62x35) upper today. LOOK!

    The AAC break/QD mount is coming off and a YHM QD break is going on as I am using a YHM suppressor. From my understanding, after talking to AAC reps, is that this is one of the last available uppers to civilians . Here's all the info on the caliber: http://300aacblackout.com/


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    never heard of or seen before but after reading

    "matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, has 37% more energy than 5.56mm M855, and 9% more than 6.8 SPC TAP 110. In fact, from a 9 inch barrel, the 300BLK has more muzzle energy than 5.56mm M855 from a 16 inch barrel"


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    i know we've been over this

    but explain in detail what you do to get your cash, and how i may get involved
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    i know we've been over this

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    Thats a good round and I hope it catches on. 5.56 is not bad, but theres some areas its lacking in. Since our combat troops and tactics have gone back to mostly semi-auto fire, a heavier and better round than the 5.56 would be more ideal for the primary infantry weapon. Id like to see the military switch to something like this.
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    Originally Posted by MANOSTEEL00 View Post
    You know I got luv for you bro, but GL feeding that beast.
    Brass is made from .223 and it uses regular .30 caliber bullets. I will use 220gr SMKs and possibly the new Hornady 225gr. It should be a cheaper to load for than a .308.

    I have 200 pieces of .300 Whisper brass that I'm going to trim and use. This caliber is pretty much the same as the Whisper it just has a shorter case OAL to feed more reliably in the AR platform(and its standardized to SAAMI spec). I have a 16" McGowen barrel on order for my Savage in the same caliber, that should be real quiet.

    Forster is the only company making the dies at the moment and they told me two weeks.
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    Are you going to just shoot .300 whisper out of it in the mean time? They are interchangable as the case deminsions are so similar correct?

    I'm really interested in this cartridge as I think it will make a great PDW cartridge. Perfect for covert operations where I could just place the weapon under a coat.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Goodtimes View Post
    Are you going to just shoot .300 whisper out of it in the mean time? They are interchangable as the case deminsions are so similar correct?

    I'm really interested in this cartridge as I think it will make a great PDW cartridge. Perfect for covert operations where I could just place the weapon under a coat.
    Shun off/ .300 whisper is pretty much the same case dimensions, just a longer CASE OAL. So all I need to do is trim it a little and its then a .300 AAC 7.62x35 case. Both are made from .223. Either way I'll probably FL size in .300AAC die b4 firing. Best thing is is that I still have 30rds in the mag. 123gr Vmax bullets will fuk some $hit up for supersonic loads. /Shun on.
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    What's the practical application of that round?

    I know the .480 are used as a back up for boar hunting, big game, etc.
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    Originally Posted by BigJayNJ View Post
    What's the practical application of that round?

    I know the .480 are used as a back up for boar hunting, big game, etc.
    Compact, sub-sonic/optimal suppression, with maximal energy effectiveness using the .223 AR-15 platform.
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    Originally Posted by Creature83 View Post
    Compact, sub-sonic/optimal suppression, with maximal energy effectiveness using the .223 AR-15 platform.
    So they're marketing it towards the "community"?

    Special mission rifle?
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    should be a fun toy.

    enjoy all the case work lol.

    and lol at thinking it would be expensive to shoot. hard to find a wildcat that is much cheaper.
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    Originally Posted by BigJayNJ View Post
    What's the practical application of that round?

    I know the .480 are used as a back up for boar hunting, big game, etc.
    I have never needed practical application before buying a gun other than
    fun [X]
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    Practical application-to shoot stuff
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    Originally Posted by Hartski View Post
    Practical application-to shoot stuff
    Well if it won't shoot, its no fun.
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    Originally Posted by MagnumPeanut82 View Post
    Well if it won't shoot, its no fun.
    Who said it won't shoot? Its made to run full auto so everything should be GTG. This caliber was specifically designed to run in the AR-15 platform. That's what separates it from the .300 Whisper that JD Jones invented.

    From a ballistic standpoint it offers a significant advantage over the 5.56 and the 6.8 SPC. $hit, just read this. This is a VERY specific answer to your question.
    http://300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf

    This is an oddball caliber and I'm a little bit nervous about how it will pan out. I did feel confident enough to drop $1080(I'll be able to sell the AAC QD mount for over $100) on the thing though so that says something. Plus AAC takes care of their customers so I'm not too worried. When planning builds for this caliber about a year ago I was of course looking at the .300 Whisper. Two weeks after ordering my 16" .300 Whisper barrel for my Savage I found out about this new cal. I had priced out a .300 whisper upper from Model 1 Sales and with everything i wanted it ran around $850. M1 Sales doesn't exactly have the best reputation and I had heard some complaints over on Quarterbore.com about AR setups in that cal.

    My new configuration is comprised of Knights Armament parts and has a nitride treated barrel/chamber FTW. The chamber is full-auto rather than match which increases reliability.
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    I didn't say it wouldn't shoot, we were just saying the only guns that are impractical are ones that can't shoot, in a nutshell anyways.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski View Post
    Practical application-to shoot stuff
    Try:

    Practical application: 72 virgin de-virginizer. Sounds like she'll do it quietly...through a wall.

    A lot of black robe wearing SOB's won't be coming home for dinner due to that platform.

    EDIT: Viable option for the Mp5 as well
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    Just curious, how much did the upper cost? If it's limited production from KAC, it's got to be up there!

    Second, can you use a 5.56 can on this or do you need 7.62? It looks like a cool round but I shoot a lot and am comfortable with 5.56 for the time being. I just want to wars in the middle east to end so I can get me some surplus ammo.
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    30 caliber can.
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    Originally Posted by MANOSTEEL00 View Post
    Just curious, how much did the upper cost? If it's limited production from KAC, it's got to be up there!

    Second, can you use a 5.56 can on this or do you need 7.62? It looks like a cool round but I shoot a lot and am comfortable with 5.56 for the time being. I just want to wars in the middle east to end so I can get me some surplus ammo.
    $1080 shipped. Good luck finding one though. I had to track down one of the reps at AAC who was dealing with this specific project and he pointed me to a place that had two left(and those were from people who backed out). The only other ones AAC had left were military demos. Check Allen Arms if you're really interested, I bet its gone though. I hear Bushmaster might make some down the road. Its parent company IIRC is Freedom Group or Cerberus and owns Remington, bushmaster, DPMS, Marlin, Barnes, H&R/NEF, etc.. I'm thinking you will see more of this caliber down the road.

    I'm going to recoup some of that $1080 by selling the .30 cal AAC Blackout 51-toof flashider/QD mount(wew... out of breath). IIRC I should be able to get $100-$150 for it shipped.

    The .300 AAC/7.62x35= .30 caliber. Come on MOS, you're a gear snob, you should know this . AAC has a new .30 caliber can that is made specifically for this platform. From what I've read over on Silencertalk.com(from AAC reps) is that it has an extra baffle in the front/blast chamber area(compared to the AAC 7.62sd). You can find specs on the suppressor through that link i posted above.
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    Originally Posted by BigJayNJ View Post
    Try:

    Practical application: 72 virgin de-virginizer. Sounds like she'll do it quietly...through a wall.

    A lot of black robe wearing SOB's won't be coming home for dinner due to that platform.

    EDIT: Viable option for the Mp5 as well
    I would MUCH rather have this setup instead of a Mp5. I have a friend who has a Mp5sd and while its real nice and cool looking, I can run circles around him with my suppressed 9mm SBR AR. The problem with the Mp5, especially the SD version is that its super front heavy. Moreover, if you buy one of those Mp5sd packages(like a Coharie Arms) the suppressor that comes with it is kind of large and proprietary(can't be used on pistols and other weapons). The mounting ability for optics, lights, grips, NV, etc... are also VERY limited.

    I would also much rather have a .300AAC/7.62x35 over my 9mm SD AR as well. I've tried shooting 200yd gongs with the 9mm and its pretty difficult(especially with subsonic ammo). Of course a 220-240gr high BC .30 cal bullet is gonna fly through the air a lot better than a 147gr 9mm bullet. This will enable it to be used out to 300-400yds accurately.

    I have a habit of responding with more info than needed, better than less I suppose.
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    I need to figure out what optic I'm gonna run on this thing. A red dot is appealing for up close work but I have the 9mm AR for that. I'm thinking maybe a Leupold mk4 1.5-5x20 or a Millet DMS-1(1-4). I have a friend that wants to sell me his Nightforce 2.5-10x34 NPR1 for $1000 and thats a DAMN GOOD deal. This month has been slow and unless I decide to sell the Robarm XCR I'm gonna be going the DMS route. I thought about an ACOG but being fixed at 4x might not be the best thing.

    I want to be able to have enough magnification to make hitting IPSC heads/COM(alpha's) out to 300yds easy. I also want to keep things as light/compact as possible. What say you guys?
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    I am not an AR optics expert but those Nightforces are an amazing friggen scope and 1k is a stupid good deal. You are gunna pay big bucks for a Leupy and for a few bucks more you could score that NF.

    Seems like a no brainer for me. Your upper cost over that.
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    Originally Posted by Creature83 View Post
    I need to figure out what optic I'm gonna run on this thing. A red dot is appealing for up close work but I have the 9mm AR for that. I'm thinking maybe a Leupold mk4 1.5-5x20 or a Millet DMS-1(1-4). I have a friend that wants to sell me his Nightforce 2.5-10x34 NPR1 for $1000 and thats a DAMN GOOD deal. This month has been slow and unless I decide to sell the Robarm XCR I'm gonna be going the DMS route. I thought about an ACOG but being fixed at 4x might not be the best thing.

    I want to be able to have enough magnification to make hitting IPSC heads/COM(alpha's) out to 300yds easy. I also want to keep things as light/compact as possible. What say you guys?
    If you're thinking about the millet then look into cmr scope by leatherwood. They're both in the 200 price range.
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    i had a dms-1 that was ok, but i got rid of it pretty quick simply because its HEAVY
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    Originally Posted by MagnumPeanut82 View Post
    I am not an AR optics expert but those Nightforces are an amazing friggen scope and 1k is a stupid good deal. You are gunna pay big bucks for a Leupy and for a few bucks more you could score that NF.

    Seems like a no brainer for me. Your upper cost over that.
    I know, I have one on my SPR and like it a lot. My only bitch is that the exit pupil is so small. You really have to be in the right space to pick up that full field of view.

    I've been rationalizing the purchase in a similar way as far as the Leupy is concerned. My problem IS that the upper was over that. LOL Thats why I'm broke. I don't buy junk though and I'll just run irons and save before buying it.
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