A Stay at Home Hdrol User- 75 to 100mg 6 weeker

[wutsrealgood]

Stats:
-age- 24
-height- 6'3
-weight- 234
-bf- 11-12%
-Previous Cycles (2 years plus ago)
--tren, supremacy and mass caps, dymethazine

Workout: "Slightly revised Arnold beginner 1 program"
-3 days on, 1 off, repeat
-day1- chest/upper back
-day2- shoulders/arms
-day3- legs/lower back
--*reps 6-10 on hdrol, 4-8 on PCT
--*done in my home gym hence stay at home

Diet: Eat clean and heavy
-Calories ~4500
-Carbs ~450
-Protein ~320
-Fat ~150
--*40 carbs, 30 protein, 30 fat ration
--*will adjust diet as weight increases

Hdrol Dosing- Starting at 75mg and adjust accordingly throughout 6 weeks.
-75/75/then maybe 100 depending on sides for 4 weeks

Support Supplements- Preloaded Week Prior through End Pct
-Liv52 (liver)
-Cycle Assist (support solution)
-Cissus (joints)
-Taurine 5g daily (for back pumps)

Pct-
Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)- 20/20/10/10
Formadrol xt- 4/3/2/1
Tribulus/ZMA- Last Week of Cycle then throughout PCT
Kreaklyn

Updates-
-Will Post Lift Logs every 4 days.
-Describe any sides and answer all questions.
-Open to suggestions/recomendations throughout cylce.
-Pictures Will Be Posted Before and After.

[wutsrealgood]

Before Pictures

[wutsrealgood]

Preload Week

Weight 230 in morning without clothes or food/water consumed.

Days1-3- Took Off to Rest For Cycle

Day4
-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 225x10,255x8, 275x5
Incline- 205x10, 220x8, 225x6
Pullover- 75x10, 85x10, 95x8
Fly- 35x8, 8, 6
Wide Pullups- 10,8, 8
Bent Rows- 225x12, 275x8, 295x6
Rack Pull- 405x8
Crunches- 20, 15

Day5
-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 165x8, 175x7, 180x7
Upright Row- 135x10, 145x8, 6
Lat Raise- 20x8,8,8
Shoulder Press- 135x10, 155x10, 185x6
Shrugs- 315x15,12,12
Stand Curl- 115x8,10,10
Concen Curl- 25x8,8,8
Close Grip- 135x1-. 185x10, 205x7
Stand Tri Ext- 75x10, 95x10, 8
Reverse Crunch- 25,20,15

Day 6
-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 275x10, 315x10, 345x8
Front Squat- 205x8, 225x8
SLDL- 135x8, 8
Good Morning- 135x9,5
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Crunches- 25,20,20
Day 7
-Rest

*Starting Hdrol today so to avoid Confusion will restart at day 1 for lift logs.

[trm2k]

that my friend is a great looking cycle! 2 thumbs up!

I'll be tracking ur progress...gonna start my hdrol cycle in feb.

good luck man

[wutsrealgood]

that my friend is a great looking cycle! 2 thumbs up!

I'll be tracking ur progress...gonna start my hdrol cycle in feb.

good luck man

Thanks bro, I know everyone's different but I want everyone to know my experience so they can do things the same/differently based on my experience. I forgot to post my diet so it will be below this post

[wutsrealgood]

Diet:

900am Wakeup Shake- Whey Protein, 2 scoops Waxy Maize

930am Meal- 3/4 cup oats, 1 tablespoon brown sugar, 10oz egg whites

1030-1230- Lift

1230am PWO- Quick Gainer Shake

130pm Meal- 12 oz ground beef, 2 cups brown rice

430pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 1tbsp Olive oil

730pm Meal- 8oz chicken, 2 cups brown rice, 1tbsp Olive oil

1030pm Bedtime Shake- Whey Protein

Totals- 4,508cals, 460.1 carbs, 320.7 protein, 143.5 fats

[SicilianFool]

Im in. Good luck bro, cant wait to see your gains. I am on the last week of my 6 week cycle at 75mg tomorrow so Id love to see how the higher dosage treats you.

[trm2k]

you should have no problem gaining 10-15 pounds on this cycle...maybe more...you've got it down pat!

[wutsrealgood]

thanks bros i felt like doing 75 for a week or two than going to 100 if the sides arent bad cuz ive been reading of alot of heavier people saying 100 was the sweet spot for them but never really found any logs at a high dosage. i hope mine will be able to help out those that were thinking of bumpin it up early instead of waiting til last few days of a cycle when ur sides are already a b*tch

[trm2k]

yeah your a bigger dude and have experience with ph's...100mg shouldn't be a big problem.

any specific reason you're saving creatine for the pct?

[swimmer32]

Good luck OP! Nice to see another tall guy running it, so I'll be watching. It'll be interesting to see how much more the higher dosage affects you.

Maybe I missed it above - but are you purely bulking, or going for some recomp also?

[wutsrealgood]

Good luck OP! Nice to see another tall guy running it, so I'll be watching. It'll be interesting to see how much more the higher dosage affects you.

Maybe I missed it above - but are you purely bulking, or going for some recomp also?

Im going for more of a bulk, just added 2 more tablespoons of olive oil so my diet is about 4750 cals now.. I'm only two days in the hdrol but it has increased my hunger already, so as I gain weight I'm goin to try hit 5500 cals by the end

yeah your a bigger dude and have experience with ph's...100mg shouldn't be a big problem.

any specific reason you're saving creatine for the pct?

I'm saving the creatine for pct cuz the hdrol is going to be giving me a kickass pump which it already has been just two days in, and when I get off, I'll add the creatine back to help with keeping my weight that I gained and most of my strength I hope.

[wutsrealgood]

Status Update:
(75 mgs, 2 days in)
-Incredible Pump during workouts
-Feels like I can just keep going and going
-Increase Hunger

No sides, will post lift log tomorrow.

I also feel the need to constantly walk around the house with my shirt off cuz my muscles look swole all day.

[trm2k]

I was unaware that hdrol gives u a pump...can't wait to start mine!

how are you spacing your dosing?

[wutsrealgood]

I take 50 mg in the mornin when i wakeup around 9am, and then I workout about an hr or two after and take my support supps around 4 hrs after my hdrol pill at 1, and then take my next 25mg hdrol at 6pm then cycle assist before bed at 1030pm

[BBlikecrazy]

hey bro just wanted to drop by and wish you good luck. im in for this

[chaser1712]

In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

[wutsrealgood]

hey bro just wanted to drop by and wish you good luck. im in for this

THanks, Good luck to you too!

In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

People say taking the support supps within 4 hours of the hdrol will affect the absorption of the hdrol. You probably won't notice a difference, but I'm just being safe than sorry.

The purpose of your PCT is to try to return your body levels to normal. During PCT your going to be fighting to keep the gains/weight you made. Depending on how well you did your pct and the damage the ph did to your levels will affect how soon your body's back to normal.

Once you recover from the ph, you should be able to make gains again naturally just keep in mind they aren't going to come as fast as they did in ur 6 week ph run.

[slimwealthy1]

let's do this big man

[chaser1712]

Right on. I'm just running h-drol as well, I know that shutdown is possible but unlikely. I have a really good pct set up so I think I'll be good. Thanks bro

[BBlikecrazy]

In and good luck man! I'm currently on my 6th week (1st cycle). I'm curious as to why you don't take your supports with your drol dosages. Is there a benefit to doing that? Also, how long after pct is it typical to start making natural gains again? I appreciate any feedback, you seem very knowledgable.

i agree with wutsrealgood. ive read many logs and reviews saying its not recommended to take hdrol and support supps together because of the absorption. i never took it together though so im not saying this from personal experience. but i read that its better to take support supps and hdrol 3-4 hours apart

[wutsrealgood]

I'm going to post my first lift log tomorrow.. I decided to start weighing myself in the mornin before breakfast and at night before bed.. I weighed myself the last 3 days in the morning and have been around 230 but when I weigh myself at night there is a weight gain from the day before.. probably from eating more and increased water intake during the day, but with both weights I'll be able get a better picture of my weight gain

I also increased the amount of oats of eating so my calories are at about 5000, ~500 carbs, ~330 protein, ~160 fats.

[scrossmaggard]

Good luck with the log

[scrossmaggard]

i agree with wutsrealgood. ive read many logs and reviews saying its not recommended to take hdrol and support supps together because of the absorption. i never took it together though so im not saying this from personal experience. but i read that its better to take support supps and hdrol 3-4 hours apart

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

[slimwealthy1]

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

for the first 4 weeks i took them at the same time, for the last 2 i took them 4 hours apart, i didn't notice a difference.

[wutsrealgood]

yea i dont see how it would make a HUGE difference

[wutsrealgood]

Hdrol 75mgs

Day1 (230lbs +0)

-Workout A (Chest/UpperBack)
Bench- 245x10, 265x6, 285x3
Incline- 205x10, 225x7, 235x6
Pullover- 95x10, 105x8, 110x7
Fly- 35x12,8,12
Wide Pullups- 11,10,9
Yate Rows- 265x10, 285x8, 305x6*
Rack Pull- 425x8
Crunches- 25,25,25

Day2 (230.6 +.6)

-Workout B (Shoulders/Traps/Arms)
Clean and Press- 175x8, 185x7, 195x6
Upright Row- 145x10, 155x9, 165x6
Lat Raise- 25x6,7,8
Shoulder Press- 170x10, 185x8, 195x5
Shrugs- 315x15, 335x15, 355x12*
Stand Curl- 115x10, 135x8, 145x4*
Concen Curl- 25x10,10,10
Close Grip- 185x10, 205x8, 225x8
Stand Tri Ext- 95x10, 115x7, 125x5
Reverse Crunch- 3x25

Day 3 (230.2 +.2)

-Workout C (Legs, Lower Back)
Squat- 315x10, 245x8, 365x6*
Front Squat- 225x8, 245x8, 265x5*
SLDL- 225x6,7,5
Good Morning- 135x10, 185x6, 185x8*
Donkey Calf and Standing Calf
Crunches- 25,25,25

Cliffs
-Started to really feel pump days 2 and 3
-No weight gain yet
-No sides
*-PR

[BBlikecrazy]

I've read in a old skool HDrol log that a CEL Rep posted you wont notice any difference when taking them together as opposed to taking them apart 4 hours. I plan on taking them 4 hours apart due to I wanna get the most out of my cycle.

i read in some logs that people who took it together had som stomach aches or something like that. some people didnt notice any difference ( like you guys ). i guess its just different from person to person

[trm2k]

@wutsrealgood are you taking your hdrol doses on an empty stomach or with food?

[wutsrealgood]

@wutsrealgood are you taking your hdrol doses on an empty stomach or with food?

I take 50 mg in the mornin when i wake up with fish oil than have my protein shake than 15 mins later have breakfast, than my 2nd dose of 25 is about 10 hrs later, an hour after I eat my food.

No reason really why I do it like that except that hdrol has half life of 12 hours so I try take the two dosages an hour apart.