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    Do bouncers have legal rights, or if they touch you is it assault?

    Are they just private citizens or are they semi cops?
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    Bouncer is just a regular guy. If you did call the cops because a bouncer touched you, you would probably be laughed at though.
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    Originally Posted by godsangina2 View Post
    Are they just private citizens or are they semi cops?
    They can be charged with assault. There is no such thing as a "semi cop".
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    Bouncers have no special rights to assault you in any way. (srs)
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    If they have their licence then they are trained in the "safest" methods of restraining a person, and in how to approach a situation so as to ensure they are not using excessive force. They are also very literate in how to explain a confronting situation, staying within the law with regard to self defense, usually even if they haven't been good boys/girls.

    In short, don't waste your time chasing it up unless you can prove you weren't drunk.
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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    Bouncers have no special rights to assault you in any way. (srs)
    So are they just making a form of citizens arrest when they restrain a drunk guy and call the cops? Is that how it's legal?

    I'm just curious, there's another thread up now about a guy put in a chokehold for 10 minutes by a bouncer, I remember this came up a year ago and there were about 20 bouncers in the thread talking as if they had the right to do whatever they wanted.
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    they dont have any legal rights but i mean if some drunk patron is getting kicked out and trys to fight the cops are always going to side with the bouncer

    they have a right to defend themselves like anyone else and also have the right to detain you if you are committing a crime

    but there is nothing written in a contract giving them a license to phuck drunks up lol

    it is not like this

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    Originally Posted by sickkyknarbar View Post
    They can be charged with assault. There is no such thing as a "semi cop".
    They can be charged with assault if they attack the person first, or seriously hurt someone for no reason. I worked as a bouncer before.

    If someone lays their hand on your or has some sort of weapon, you have every right to defend yourself in anyway possible.
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    Originally Posted by godsangina2 View Post
    So are they just making a form of citizens arrest when they restrain a drunk guy and calling the cops? Is that how it's legal?
    - You're in my bar
    - I ask you to leave
    - You refuse to leave
    - I don't need special rights to call the cops
    - I don't need special rights to restrain you using reasonable force and kick you out

    - You're in my bar
    - You are starting fights
    - You attack me (I am the bouncer)
    - I don't need special rights to lay you out

    ...that's pretty much it.

    Originally Posted by godsangina2 View Post
    I'm just curious, there's another thread up now about a guy put in a chokehold for 10 minutes by a bouncer, I remember this came up a year ago and there were about 20 bouncers in the thread talking as if they had the right to do whatever they wanted.
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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    Bouncers have no special rights to assault you in any way. (srs)
    this. I would love for a bouncer to spit on me in real life. He would be in a coma hooked up to a feeding tube before he knew what hit him.
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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    - You're in my bar
    - I ask you to leave
    - You refuse to leave
    - I don't need special rights to call the cops
    - I don't need special rights to restrain you using reasonable force and kick you out

    - You're in my bar
    - You are starting fights
    - You attack me (I am the bouncer)
    - I don't need special rights to lay you out

    ...that's pretty much it.



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    In the Netherlands the way it works is that you cannot ever use force as a private citizen unless it is to protect yourself, another person or your or somebody's property. The force you use to protect these things must also be proportional to the force the attacker is exerting and the thing you are protecting. So basically they can touch you to protect the place they work at and it's patrons if needed.
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    5'8 157 you arent laying anyone out you ****ing pussy
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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    - You're in my bar
    - I ask you to leave
    - You refuse to leave
    - I don't need special rights to call the cops
    - I don't need special rights to restrain you using reasonable force and kick you out

    - You're in my bar
    - You are starting fights
    - You attack me (I am the bouncer)
    - I don't need special rights to lay you out

    ...that's pretty much it.
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    lol @ bouncers being semi-cops
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    I was a bouncer for a long time.

    -We can ask you to leave for any reason we deem necessary
    -We can MAKE you leave by reasonable means
    -We can react with proportionate force in terms of self-defense

    Usually it transpires as follows:

    1) I'll ask you to leave

    2) You'll either

    -Agree to (stop here)
    -Disagree to (move on to 3)

    3) I'll put my hand on your shoulder and motion you towards the door

    -You'll go (stop here)
    -You'll resist (move on to 4)

    4) I'll then restrain you under the arms and MOVE you towards the door

    -You'll go without further resistance (stop here)
    -You'll fight me (move on to 5)

    5) I'll use proportionate force in return which usually will be a rear restraint around the upper body and/or head

    -You'll go without resistance (over)
    -I'll do what I need to in order to defend myself and/or remove you from the club

    That's the correct process. Bouncers who don't follow the correct escalation of "force" are the ones who get powned in court.
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    Originally Posted by BigJayNJ View Post
    I was a bouncer for a long time.

    -We can ask you to leave for any reason we deem necessary
    -We can MAKE you leave by reasonable means
    -We can react with proportionate force in terms of self-defense

    Usually it transpires as follows:

    1) I'll ask you to leave

    2) You'll either

    -Agree to (stop here)
    -Disagree to (move on to 3)

    3) I'll put my hand on your shoulder and motion you towards the door

    -You'll go (stop here)
    -You'll resist (move on to 4)

    4) I'll then restrain you under the arms and MOVE you towards the door

    -You'll go without further resistance (stop here)
    -You'll fight me (move on to 5)

    5) I'll use proportionate force in return which usually will be a rear restraint around the upper body and/or head

    -You'll go without resistance (over)
    -I'll do what I need to in order to defend myself and/or remove you from the club

    That's the correct process. Bouncers who don't follow the correct escalation of "force" are the ones who get powned in court.
    good explanation.
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    yea they are allowed, they are security after all lol
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    Originally Posted by Metal Jerk View Post
    5'8 157 you arent laying anyone out you ****ing pussy
    Well, if I was a bouncer. Hypothetically.

    I'm not a bouncer. I'm also not a bar owner. I thought that was obvious but I should have known never to underestimate the capacity of retards to be, well, retarded. I almost feel bad negging you because it's obvious you have other problems but I suppose one more thing isn't going to cause you to snap.

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    Originally Posted by sickkyknarbar View Post
    They can be charged with assault. There is no such thing as a "semi cop".
    They aren't even cops. Regular dudes. The law applies to them too
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    Originally Posted by KillDowzer View Post
    They aren't even cops. Regular dudes. The law applies to them too
    Cops get away with murder. Figuratively and literally.
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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    Well, if I was a bouncer. Hypothetically.

    I'm not a bouncer. I'm also not a bar owner. I thought that was obvious but I should have known never to underestimate the capacity of retards to be, well, retarded. I almost feel bad negging you because it's obvious you clearly have other problems but I suppose one more thing isn't going to cause you to snap.

    (And if it does then I've just rid the world of a retard. Nothing of value would be lost.)
    You seem pretty mad.
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    Originally Posted by Metal Jerk View Post
    this. I would love for a bouncer to spit on me in real life. He would be in a coma hooked up to a feeding tube before he knew what hit him.
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    Originally Posted by Metal Jerk View Post
    this. I would love for a bouncer to spit on me in real life. He would be in a coma hooked up to a feeding tube before he knew what hit him.
    i dare u to come at me bro at my bar, granted i'm not a bouncer anymore i bartend but i would still lay u out
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    Only if a police man witnesses it or the cctv doesnt mysteriously dissapear from the club at exactly the time of the fight where you get your ass kicked by a bouncer.

    However who are the police going to believe? a few guys that where 10 times over the limit or 10+ licensed bouncers and people that work at the club etc. so basically they can say you came at a bouncer with a knife and he needed to knock you clean out.
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    Originally Posted by Gorilla99 View Post
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    location: texas why dont you say that to my face ***got not online see what happens
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