There are some issues I want to address and resolve with the nutritional advice he gives. For the most part I agree with what he says, such as avoiding processed soy products, hfcs, and certain pharmacueticals.
The following issues I have with what he says may be a misinterpretation, but in many of his articles I feel like he takes an extreme view on a certain food / vitamin / w/e.
1. Whey protein isolate is bad; he claims that the protein has poor nutrition value compared to whey concentrate and therefore should not be used. I think its used for a fast absorbing protein at specific times, get your nutrition from food.
2. Pasturized milk is garbage; he claims that raw milk is the way to go, which i agree with, but he claims that pasturized milk has degenerated (or whatever the word is) that does nothing for you and can actually harm you.
3. Fructose is bad for you; he claims that hfcs is terrible for you, which i agree with, but he uses hfcs and fructore interchangably, which would make it seem to me that fruit is bad for you as it contains fructose. Is fructose in fruit bad for you (i hope not)?
4. Whey protein has superior nutritional value to casein; he claims why does all this great stuff to help you lose weight and gain muscle, but last i checked casein has hormonal effects on your body that are beneficial for muscle growth (ie increased test production) where as whey causes insulin spikes similar to high gi carbs (good for fast and increased absorption pwo).
Please post your opinions/facts concerning these topics.
If you think im wrong about something please explain why, im not trying to force what i think is right onto anyone.
If you want I can go post those articles but I dont feel like it atm.
Sorry for the lack of scientific terminology.
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Thread: @ Dr. Mercola
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10-25-2010, 05:09 PM #1
@ Dr. Mercola
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10-25-2010, 06:32 PM #2
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Personally I think he is an idiot and I think it's a shame that he gets to place Doctor in front of his name. I think he markets himself and his ideas well.
Richard Anderson, M.D.
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10-25-2010, 06:35 PM #3
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this... Under investigation by FDA had a C&D against his supplements by the FDA because he claimed they CURED diseases. I believe his license was suspended at some point. He flipped flopped on cholesterol from eggs a few times. Claims the Chlorine in the shower gets absorbed thru the skin (it doesnt) among a whole other host of BS he spews.
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10-25-2010, 07:26 PM #6
Ya i forgot about the cholesterol articles with eggs. I guess my view on him his changing, and im sure he was trying to sell his whey as you guys suggest.
However, I think he was correct in addressing the issue of the h1n1 vaccination and that one should avoid it. IMO he gives decent reasons to avoid alot of pharms.
Also, this is another instance in which I dont think he was trying to sell anything, he was talking about how microwaving food over a certain time destroys much of the foods nutritional value because as the water turns into steam it changes the chemical structure of certain compounds (somethin like that). This is correct no?
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10-25-2010, 09:01 PM #7
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10-25-2010, 10:30 PM #8
That is understandable, but why would he make these exaggerated claims (when hes not trying to sell something)... I dont know what he could be possibly trying to sell by claiming this unless he came up with a mercola microwave or somethin.
Just making sure steaming veggies, like broccoli, preserves more of the nutrients? This is not something I learned from mercola
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10-26-2010, 06:40 AM #9
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10-31-2010, 03:11 PM #11
Ok heres something else that i find to be bs:
"I would say that coconut oil is okay to cook with. It's a saturated fat. Your body will burn it as fuel or it will get rid of it some other way. It won't store it in your body.. So from that point of view, if you're going to use oil then that's a good one to use."
This is dr. mercola quoting a dr. moerk.
So your body cant store saturated fat?
Dr. mercola also states this: "Interestingly, unlike carbohydrates, which can also deliver quick energy to your body, coconut oil does this without producing an insulin spike. Yes, it acts like a carbohydrate, but without any of the debilitating insulin-related effects associated with long-term high carbohydrate consumption"
Donno if this is true, anyone know about this? (i would assume it wouldnt because to my understanding fats slow digestion... unless there is something special about coconut oil).
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10-31-2010, 04:34 PM #12
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Richard Anderson, M.D.
I eat and thoroughly enjoy egg whites; for some reason you now think you are smarter than me. This makes me smile.
Pubmed: helpin' the anti-Bros post links to abstracts of studies they never read...anything less is Broscience!
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01-20-2011, 06:49 AM #13
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01-20-2011, 09:57 PM #18
I would.
Donates a GREAT deal of money and time to charity. Very likable (yes I've met him). Is that rare breed of doctor that really did become a doctor to help others.
Thought it was a really nice touch too last year when he was doing one of his ask doctor oz shows and one of the questioneers (is that even a word, lulz) was a fire fighter. Oz goes "You a firefighter" guy says "Yes sir". Oz goes "thank you for that".
Probably not a big deal to you but I have a lot of firefighters in my family and just little thing like that means a lot.
Firefighters are real heroes.
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01-20-2011, 10:54 PM #19
I haven't looked into Dr Oz' material at all. However, I found this link to Jamie Hale giving a piece of his mind about him:
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/...ad-wizard.html
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01-21-2011, 10:04 AM #20
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01-21-2011, 11:31 AM #25
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So wait a second. You are saying he is cool simply because of the things he does.
I have personally heard Dr. Oz make some pretty retarded statements, such as avoiding all sugars.
If you want to say he is cool for the things he does that's one thing but the things he SAYS are a COMPLETELY different story.
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01-21-2011, 01:59 PM #26
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For the general public, I think it is fine to advise avoiding all sugars. No one is going to follow the advice anyways but it may make them think a bit before shoving a candy bar down their pie holes. I can also tell you that the guy has forgotten more about medicine and physiology than you will learn in your entire lifetime. Picking out a few statements that are not in vogue with the stuff on a bodybuilding forum (it's all macros...anything else is broscience) is not a real assessment of his character or ability as a physician.
Richard Anderson, M.D.
I eat and thoroughly enjoy egg whites; for some reason you now think you are smarter than me. This makes me smile.
Pubmed: helpin' the anti-Bros post links to abstracts of studies they never read...anything less is Broscience!
-To the PubMed ninjas; you are what is wrong with the internet.
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01-21-2011, 10:05 PM #27
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07-29-2015, 08:19 AM #29
@rich503
Rich,
Before speaking out of line, you should really do your research and gain more knowledge in Alternative medicine. Dr. Mercola is a reputable alternative Dr. If you believe more in conventional medicine, you are surely mistaken and a bit blind I'd must say. Again, do your research but be careful of your resources.
Cheers!
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07-29-2015, 08:22 AM #30
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