Alright everyone,Quick question..... so What is better for building muscle at night? ZMA (Which helps to keep Test. levels peaked) Or Casein (Which helps your body feed while you sleep, Anti-Catabolic supplement.) Please explain in detail why you think your answer is right, greatly appreciated- Wolverine.
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Thread: ZMA Vs Casein
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10-24-2010, 09:39 AM #1
ZMA Vs Casein
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10-24-2010, 09:49 AM #2
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10-24-2010, 09:55 AM #3
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This is just my own personal opinion- from my experience with it- but I didn't feel like ZMA did much. I know many people say it helps them sleep but I didn't really feel much of a difference.
I would guess that casein would be better for building muscle as it actually contains protein, as opposed to ZMA which is just zinc+magnesium. Even if it did boost testosterone (still controversial) you'd need the protein to actually grow.new log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=690964161#post690964161
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10-24-2010, 09:58 AM #4
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10-24-2010, 10:00 AM #5
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BIG D (Wolverine)- Smaller than tomorrow, bigger than yesterday.
I will not give up. I Will not let the world pass me by.. I WILL TRANSFORM AND I WILL NOT DIE!
Vassive!
"its all about training the mind first, then training the body, then all will flow evenly...." - Chipper1 *ME!*
August 2nd- 300lbs....May 23rd- 195lbs....
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10-24-2010, 10:11 AM #6
Well then it depends on you I guess. How do you feel your test levels are? And how tired are you usually? If you lack energy and/or motivation then ZMA is best. However if you're already pretty well rested all the time and are pumped throughout the day to go to the gym then chances are you don't need tons of more testosterone to keep you going. In which case take the casein.
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10-24-2010, 11:19 AM #7
i feel pretty good, somedays i need a pre-workout, some days i dont, i mean when i sleep i sleep pretty well, sometimes its hard to sleep but i blame that on taking the pre-workout late. Also my Post workout (Bullrush) has 22mg of ZMA and my multi has 15mg, so i think i should be covered? so i might as well just get a casein for bed time.
Last edited by chipper1; 10-24-2010 at 11:24 AM.
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I will not give up. I Will not let the world pass me by.. I WILL TRANSFORM AND I WILL NOT DIE!
Vassive!
"its all about training the mind first, then training the body, then all will flow evenly...." - Chipper1 *ME!*
August 2nd- 300lbs....May 23rd- 195lbs....
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10-24-2010, 12:30 PM #8
Casein. Ads for ZMA might state that they raise test levels but honestly, people only use it for a better night's sleep. Even for the people that do use it for a better nights sleep complain that it doesn't work.
1 scoop of ON Casein at night with some milk and 2 scoops natural peanut butter will be optimal for protein synthesis and anti-catabolism during your sleep.
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