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    When should I take Casein Protein? - Before bed is not an option for me

    I'm starting a new workout after some period of rest, and I just bought a Whey Protein which I pretend to use after workout, and a Casein which I used to take right before bed.

    The thing is, that now, I'll have to go to the gym in the afternoon, around 6pm, so having the Whey Protein after workout + casein right before bed + a meal in between, seems to be too much, actually I tried it once and I felt bloated, in fact, I think I actually gained a few pounds.

    Any advice?
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    Originally Posted by jmm8012 View Post
    I just bought a Whey Protein which I pretend to use after workout
    how do you pretend to use the whey protein?
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    Originally Posted by evankyle View Post
    how do you pretend to use the whey protein?
    Right after workout
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    Can take it in the morning, 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop casein, and the casein will digest for a longer period in the morning
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    Originally Posted by jmm8012 View Post
    I'm starting a new workout after some period of rest, and I just bought a Whey Protein which I pretend to use after workout, and a Casein which I used to take right before bed.

    The thing is, that now, I'll have to go to the gym in the afternoon, around 6pm, so having the Whey Protein after workout + casein right before bed + a meal in between, seems to be too much, actually I tried it once and I felt bloated, in fact, I think I actually gained a few pounds.

    Any advice?
    you probably gained some muscle

    oh noes
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    I have the exact same schedule as you OP and i havent gained any more fat than would be expected from my current bulking routine..actually i have been quite satisfied with my results so far


    IE: I workout at at 6pm and take whey right afterwards...then dinner at 8pm or so..then casein with skim milk at 10pm before bed...yummy
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    Don't take it, or mix it with your whey. Casein alone sucks. I prefer food as a pre-bed meal anyway.
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    Originally Posted by jmm8012 View Post
    Right after workout
    Do you know what 'pretend' means?
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    ...then casein is not an option.
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    also... the first 3 posts in this thread are just too good

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    seems like a waste of money if you're just going to keep pretending to take protein. Doesn't seem very beneficial
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    I prefer soy protein over casein protein.
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    Like dvsness mentioned, mix it with your whey.

    Originally Posted by Evander06 View Post
    seems like a waste of money if you're just going to keep pretending to take protein.
    A wasted of money?! More like full of genius! By pretending to take the protein, he will essentially have an endless supply of it. lol
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    Originally Posted by Evander06 View Post
    seems like a waste of money if you're just going to keep pretending to take protein. Doesn't seem very beneficial
    How can waste money if you don't spend money.

    Give the OP a break. He obviously meant "intend".
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    Originally Posted by evankyle View Post
    how do you pretend to use the whey protein?
    lmaoooo
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    here's my solution to this epic dilemma: do 1 scoop whey post-workout. Eat. Then 1 scoop casein before bed.

    I mean, that's what i'd do.
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    Originally Posted by jmm8012 View Post
    I'm starting a new workout after some period of rest, and I just bought a Whey Protein which I pretend to use after workout, and a Casein which I used to take right before bed.

    The thing is, that now, I'll have to go to the gym in the afternoon, around 6pm, so having the Whey Protein after workout + casein right before bed + a meal in between, seems to be too much, actually I tried it once and I felt bloated, in fact, I think I actually gained a few pounds.

    Any advice?

    I tend to go into the gym at 7:30pm and I still drink a shake post workout, eat a meal an hour later and drink another shake or have a protein bar or even a second meal before bed. Learn to eat more food?

    That said, you do not need a casein shake before bed. Just eating a meal before bed is fine.
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    Originally Posted by tropo View Post
    How can waste money if you don't spend money.

    Give the OP a break. He obviously meant "intend".
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    aw..kill joy..
    I am gonna pretend to workout now.
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    There's no rocket science. Wait with the casein. After your whey protein is gone, try the casein after your workout and see how it works for you. Most likely after a container of each you won't see much difference.

    And then...

    Try using whey after each workout for six to nine months. And then try casein for six to nine months and compare.
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    Im new here.

    Im new here and just learning. I dont mean for this question to sound ridiculous, but would anyone besides me be up a couple of times to use the bathroom, if they had a shake?
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    bro , you don't need the casein , just try to take the whey protein pre bed with some peanut butter , the remainder of the casein mix it with the whey protein post workout , and see how it goes , casein fills ur stomach more than whey that's y you feel bloated ... probably
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    ill take the casein off your hands
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    Originally Posted by amateurbdybldr View Post
    bro , you don't need the casein , just try to take the whey protein pre bed with some peanut butter , the remainder of the casein mix it with the whey protein post workout , and see how it goes , casein fills ur stomach more than whey that's y you feel bloated ... probably
    dude you dont know anything..!!! you cant mix casein with whey
    Casein has a unique property, in that ii coagulates in the stomach.12 This causes other proteins to be digested and absorbed much more slowly.

    Have you ever tried to run through a vat of tar? It isn't easy by any means. You would be moving very slowly. Casein does the same thing to whey, and other proteins for that matter. Think of it as a sort of binding gel.

    This simple little fact would nullify the biggest and most important attribute of whey. That is its ability to flood your system quickly with amino acid and stimulate protein synthesis.

    Now before you ask, let me stop you - I already know what you are thinking. Perhaps it would be best to just slam whey protein drinks all day to keep your system swimming in amino acids, right? Wrong! It may seem counter-intuitive, but it would not keep protein synthesis rates up.2

    Just having constantly high levels of amino acids or merely having a positive protein balance doesn't stimulate protein synthesis2,5,11 and doesn't lead to increases in muscle mass.18
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    Originally Posted by Nelvek View Post
    dude you dont know anything..!!! you cant mix casein with whey
    Casein has a unique property, in that ii coagulates in the stomach.12 This causes other proteins to be digested and absorbed much more slowly.

    Have you ever tried to run through a vat of tar? It isn't easy by any means. You would be moving very slowly. Casein does the same thing to whey, and other proteins for that matter. Think of it as a sort of binding gel.

    This simple little fact would nullify the biggest and most important attribute of whey. That is its ability to flood your system quickly with amino acid and stimulate protein synthesis.

    Now before you ask, let me stop you - I already know what you are thinking. Perhaps it would be best to just slam whey protein drinks all day to keep your system swimming in amino acids, right? Wrong! It may seem counter-intuitive, but it would not keep protein synthesis rates up.2

    Just having constantly high levels of amino acids or merely having a positive protein balance doesn't stimulate protein synthesis2,5,11 and doesn't lead to increases in muscle mass.18
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    ^^ Hopefully no begginers here take you seriously, casein and whey are mixed in pretty much all weight gainers as well as some other protein supps. Studies have shown that mixing the two provides better results then whey alone. Please don't spread misinformation, especially in old threads.

    ref: Demling et al (2000)
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    Nelvek is on the right track. Casein clots in your stomach and is slowly digested and whey is beneficial in that it floods your system.
    If you think he's dumb I bet doing a quick search on the very site which hosts this forum would support him in how both the proteins act.
    Whether he is accurate in saying not to take them at the same time is another story.
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