Civilization V - How to beat on Deity? (hardest)

[Kmart23]

I kind of go on a bit of a long winded explanation of my strategy here, which I just finished and came back up to the top to write this, so yeah, I provided cliffs for my misc brah's.

My question: Have any misc brah's managed to beat Civ V on Deity (level 8/hardest) and if so, how the hell did you do it?

It is easy to beat on level 7, but I have spent a good 20 hours trying to beat it on level 8 with no success.

I didn't play as the one large map, as this takes out the need for ships entirely and takes away from a lot of the strategy, so I always play it on a normal map, with continents.

I have played from the same saved beginning point twice.

First time:

I swept through my continent, but I went on a military sweep and took the cities faster then I could keep the happiness in check so my civilization was raging, bringing down the construction speed, etc, so by the time I met Russia who lived on another continent, they were so much more advanced then me, it was impossible to keep them out of my ****. I remember a screen came up with 'the person with the pointiest sticks' after having met Russia and it said something like me: 1000 Russia: 15000. This was before I even started on a naval fleet, having focussed so heavily on taking out my continent, which I managed to overtake with relative ease using the mounted early game rush. (My continent had Greece, Japan, India along with myself, playing as the Roman empire.) Seeing Russia with such a superior army, I didn't bother to let the game play out, as I couldn't see myself pulling it back from there, especially since I was still on about 30 unhappiness from all the occupied cities, etc, having spent the last umpteen turns trying to get this in check, razing cities, and building courthouses in the cities I couldn't raze, etc.

Second time through:

Like I said, from the same starting point, so I knew the continent pretty well, like who was on it and where there were, etc. The second time I was more methodical trying to overtake the continent, being careful to keep the happiness in check. The problem here was that the other civs build their armies so quickly on the hardest difficulty setting that if you don't do an early rush, you are going to struggle pushing ahead. Managed to get up to artillery which are by far the best unit in the mid-game with their 3 range and massive damage, but again, Russia is so far advanced. This time through I kept two cities pumping out frigates as soon as I was up to that tech, so managed to keep Russia from sending their units onto my continent once we were at war. (I had like 8-10 frigates patrolling the coast, picking off their units in the water before they could make it to land, and A.I. is still stupid, with no actual naval protection for the units while she made her run across the water with 20-30 far superior land units, which I picked off in the water with relative ease.)

Second time I thought I had a legit strategy. I couldn't hold one city on my slow, methodical push as I had both Japan and India coming at me, bro. This was mid-game and I had held the city like a champ for aaaages, using 2 generals to build forts so they were raping the hit points as Japan and India were advancing wave after wave, helping me to hold them off. Anyway, one city was finally going to fall, so I sold it to Russia for a sweet profit (about 5k) just as I got the artillery tech. I bought 4 artillery units and quickly took another city from Japan which I again sold to Russia for about the same price and bought another 4 artillery, so with 8 artillery units, you are pretty much unstoppable against computer A.I. - I could now sweep through my island, taking back the two Russian cities before she sent her military to my continent while as friends, so I could take her out in the water with all my frigates, enabling me to hold my continent against her far superior military force.

Strategy worked well, but I am still way behind technologically, and I can see Russia sending a few battle-cruisers or air-craft carriers while I am still with stuck with my frigates. If A.I. is too stupid to do this, I still can't see a way I could possibly go on the offensive, with Russia having such an advanced military compared to myself.

Long winded? Yes. Sorry about that. :/

Just hoping to hear opinions from anyone that has managed to defeat it on hardest setting. I am starting to think that a cultural victory might be the only way you can do it. Also, do you have as much success getting your cities to grow as quickly as the A.I. I consistently find my cities at about size 10 population while my competitors have cities at about size 15. What is the secret here? The A.I. also seems to manage to get a higher production per city which is something I have yet to perfect when getting into the mid game.

Any tips advice appreciated.

Cliffs:

Can't beat Civ V on hardest setting.
Want to know how to do it.

[alphamate]

whats your pc specs ? sorry i cant help with your question

[Kmart23]

whats your pc specs ? sorry i cant help with your question

pc is only about 6 months old and can run any game to date on highest settings with relative ease. why do you ask?

[melatonin]

pc is only about 6 months old and can run any game to date on highest settings with relative ease. why do you ask?

I would like to know ur gpus? and if I should buy the game

[ImaSuperHero]

Be Spain, sail to an island, make a town on small island.

Later in the game you will be getting lots of fishes.

This is a strategy from Civ4, idk if it will still work in 5.

[Kmart23]

I would like to know ur gpus? and if I should buy the game

gpus? also, game is solid. worth the $

Be Spain, sail to an island, make a town on small island.

Later in the game you will be getting lots of fishes.

This is a strategy from Civ4, idk if it will still work in 5.

Yeah, I can't see this strat working. Only set tiles have fish and max 3-4 for one city, even if it is alone on a small island.

[Sergis]

check the following (found in google search)

http://stratics.com/stories/first-de...-5-video-guide
http://tgntimes.com/civilization-5-d...trategies-tgn/

[Kmart23]

check the following (found in google search)

http://stratics.com/stories/first-de...-5-video-guide
http://tgntimes.com/civilization-5-d...trategies-tgn/

ty brah, but I know how to do a google search. I just wanted to chat about it with some misc brahs.

edit: also, seen the vids, but he only completes it on small map size. He says his next goal is to defeat on normal size, and will post a vid when done but as yet, no vid. :/

[steelers1377]

exploit how stupid the ai is.

[Kmart23]

exploit how stupid the ai is.

agreed, the A.I. is stupid, but on deity the A.I. gets such a huge boost in actual unit numbers that even as a mindless military, the sheer numbers make it so difficult.

[Sergis]

can you setup a 1v1 with comp and zerg rush him?

[Kmart23]

can you setup a 1v1 with comp and zerg rush him?

naah, but a cloaked banshee rush is gtg.

[Sergis]

fuk after watching the vids i wanna play some civ 5 too even though my comp can barely handle it. playing with 9 fps is annoying as fuk.
brb in 10 hours

[Joe1991]

It's hard as ****. Something cool happened today though. Started a new game, turned out I have a huge Island all to myself with 2 of the mini city's. I took over the mini city's, then had pretty much covered all the Island with my city's and was balling as ****. Had like 6-7 of the epic buildings (forgot the name lol...) then I send my scout out to explore over the other Island. Turns out everyone over there Is broke as **** (most 0 gold and losing more every turn) and are all at war and just running each other Into the ground while my civilization thrives.

Imma just build my Island up, get an awesome military and navy and go take the other civilizations over.


Feels good man.

EDIT: Look on youtube, I'm pretty sure there Is a strategy guide on there.

[Ek2]

ally with a maritime state, increases food production like nuts. Computer won't follow suit and you should be good to go

[Kmart23]

It's hard as ****. Someone cool happened today though. Started a new game, turned out I have a huge Island all to myself with 2 of the mini city's. I took over the mini city's, then had pretty much covered all the Island with my city's and was balling as ****. Had like 6-7 of the epic buildings (forgot the name lol...) then I send my scout out to explore over the other Island. Turns out everyone over there Is broke as **** (most 0 gold and losing more every turn) and are all at war and just running each other Into the ground while my civilization thrives.

Imma just build my Island up, get an awesome military and navy and go take the other civilizations over.


Feels good man.

I hate you.

[Kmart23]

ally with a maritime state, increases food production like nuts. Computer won't follow suit and you should be good to go

Def a legit strat. I always ally/liberate any chance I get. Even paying to ally pays for itself very quickly.

[Kmart23]

bump for any other civ V players on the misc.

[Dave P]

Custom Map!

[TBEagl]

I play but i'm not good enough to play on deity

[Kmart23]

Custom Map!

lolz. yeah, but, ummmm. . . Where is the fun in that?

[Dave P]

I just get hella mad when I build a good civilization and then find out the closest oil supply is across the map.

[Red_Dragon]

I can't believe a game with mediocre graphics require such high specs. It lags on mine even on low settings and my game can play fallout 3 no problem.

[_Ishy]

check the following (found in google search)

http://stratics.com/stories/first-de...-5-video-guide
http://tgntimes.com/civilization-5-d...trategies-tgn/

So much new stuff... haven't played much Civ since 2 and 3.

[Kmart23]

I can't believe a game with mediocre graphics require such high specs. It lags on mine even on low settings and my game can play fallout 3 no problem.

not sure why. I tab out and in no probs, misc a bit and still rarely experience any lag. If you can play fallout 3 no probs, maybe you need a video card patch or something?