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    How would a Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem fight go?

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    i find this matchup better then fedor vs. brock or fedor vs. overeem honestly..

    hopefully they will make this for new years.
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    How bout we let Alistair fight someone relevent this century before imagining what he might be capable of because he's "A rreally biig gai!"
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    LOL! Overeem would get manhandled.
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    op doesn't know how business or mma works if he thinks Lesnar vs Overeem can be made for New Years.
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    Originally Posted by beaucephus View Post
    How bout we let Alistair fight someone relevent this century before imagining what he might be capable of because he's "A rreally biig gai!"
    What makes you say that? I cant think of anyone else that would be a bigger threat to Lesnar than Overeem right now.
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    Originally Posted by Bamsha View Post
    What makes you say that? I cant think of anyone else that would be a bigger threat to Lesnar than Overeem right now.
    This. I honestly think Overeem could beat him. Either with a sub or ko
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    Originally Posted by my_name_is_bob View Post
    LOL! Overeem would get manhandled.
    at this point i really dont think so. ubereem by lightning overhand right
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    Ubereem has the best chance out of anyone but would be easily taken to the ground by Brock’s near unstoppable takedown. From there Brock demolishes him any way he wants and celebrates by getting on top of his wife and shooting a fruit salad.
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    As we saw in Brock's last fight, his striking basically sucks. If he doesn't improve that, I don't see how he beats Overeem. Overeem's wrestling is obviously not as good, but Overeem isn't gonna get manhandled like Herring or Mir on the ground. And what is Lesnar gonna do when Overeem gets him with one of those knees or that huge right hand we just saw in K1. It be an awesome fight, but I think Overeem's striking advantage would beat Lesnar's wrestling advantage.
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    Originally Posted by my_name_is_bob View Post
    LOL! Overeem would get manhandled.
    I'm not saying Lesnar couldn't win by GnP, but Overeem getting manhandled? Lol no way. Mir got manhandled, and Overeem is better than Mir in every way.
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    wont happen

    but overeem is skilled in every area of mma more so then brock but brock is the best at what he does which is take people down and destroy them. Brock fought much higher level of competition more so then any fighter in history of sport this early in career. Literally fed champions or contenders for nearly every fight with very little experience and dominates all of them.

    would be fun fight but lets see overeem vs another top 10 hw though. He utterly dominated rogers like everyone thought fedor would but think what can take away is that fedor is just not good and would be utterly dominated by overeem and any top ufc hw.

    overeem and brock are my two favorite hw's though and think both are tremendously skilled top 2 in the world imo
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    Originally Posted by Bamsha View Post
    What makes you say that? I cant think of anyone else that would be a bigger threat to Lesnar than Overeem right now.
    well first k-1=/mma

    and in mma yes he has dominated easily a lot of guys but so would carwin or jds or cain vs those opponents. He has not fought the likes of a mir, randy, carwin like lesnar has. If he destroys like barnett-which think was recently signed- and like werdum then we can see how he looks vs higher level guys.

    I think he is very skilled technically in every area and proven to be probably best striker in world at hw but brock proven champion of best MMA organization in the world.
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    Originally Posted by Gomi View Post
    at this point i really dont think so. ubereem by lightning overhand right
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    Ubereem would finish brock in the first round and make him look silly.
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    mother nature (lesnar)

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    We havent seen Reem face any high level heavyweight wrestlers yet. So it would be interesting to see if Reem can stop Brock's takedowns. If Reem can stop his takedowns then its gona be over for Lesnar
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    well first k-1=/mma

    and in mma yes he has dominated easily a lot of guys but so would carwin or jds or cain vs those opponents. He has not fought the likes of a mir, randy, carwin like lesnar has. If he destroys like barnett-which think was recently signed- and like werdum then we can see how he looks vs higher level guys.

    I think he is very skilled technically in every area and proven to be probably best striker in world at hw but brock proven champion of best MMA organization in the world.
    I agree with what you're saying, but I think Overeem would destroy Mir. Mir has 0 takedown ability and Overeem would just rape him standing.

    And Randy... I'm a fan of the guy, but Overeem vs Couture might actually result in death. I can not imagine Randy taking one of those punches from Overeem. He got dropped several times by Nog... Ubereem would seriously hurt him.
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    well first k-1=/mma

    and in mma yes he has dominated easily a lot of guys but so would carwin or jds or cain vs those opponents. He has not fought the likes of a mir, randy, carwin like lesnar has. If he destroys like barnett-which think was recently signed- and like werdum then we can see how he looks vs higher level guys.

    I think he is very skilled technically in every area and proven to be probably best striker in world at hw but brock proven champion of best MMA organization in the world.
    I agree with everything you say, but I still feel Overeem is the biggest threat to Lesnar now.

    But your post also brings up another interesting topic, how would you figure Carwins chances against Overeem? My feeling is it would be the worst possible matchup for Carwin.

    And this makes me feel that Overeem could/would have finished Lesnar if he had gotten him in a position similar to what Carwin had.
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    See what happened to Brock with Carwin? Overeem would have finished it.
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    Haha i think it's safe to say that overeem is #1 HW in the world at this moment. Alistair is more skilled in every aspect of MMA other than wrestling. Brock won't have a strength advantage also so ... he won't be able to just low skill manhandle overeem like he did with other guys.

    Please he got thrown over and pounded by Carwin before he punched himself out.
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    Originally Posted by Bamsha View Post
    I agree with everything you say, but I still feel Overeem is the biggest threat to Lesnar now.

    But your post also brings up another interesting topic, how would you figure Carwins chances against Overeem? My feeling is it would be the worst possible matchup for Carwin.

    And this makes me feel that Overeem could/would have finished Lesnar if he had gotten him in a position similar to what Carwin had.
    I think carwin good wrestler and could use his wrestling more in that fight. He has been able to rely on his boxing more in most fights even vs lesnar before he gased. Yet he could implement different strategy vs overeem. I think obviously be huge mistake to stand with him and he probably be picked apart but he would know this I think.

    I think a lot of guys could have finished lesnar if land a big shot but the chances are slim of that happening carwin was able to do it in part due to his wrestling to avoid easy takedown. He also got a good shot early on and that really stunned lesnar and made him turtle-possibly ring rust not fighting in a long time also- I think if carwin could not finish lesnar dropping bombs then shows he is very hard to finish.

    I think overeem could sub carwin though as I think carwin is weak on the ground imo. People forget that as good as striker overeem is he started as grappler and is very good on ground more sub wins then ko. Yet carwin might want to stand with overeem and might get picked apart but who knows he is powerful also.
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    Originally Posted by mmondo13 View Post
    I agree with what you're saying, but I think Overeem would destroy Mir. Mir has 0 takedown ability and Overeem would just rape him standing.

    And Randy... I'm a fan of the guy, but Overeem vs Couture might actually result in death. I can not imagine Randy taking one of those punches from Overeem. He got dropped several times by Nog... Ubereem would seriously hurt him.
    Yeah I think mir is mentally not there right now as fighter and would probably get crushed by overeem right now. His last fight vs cro cop was not very convincing and got walked over by carwin. Yet he is a good striker he did ko cro cop and stunned kongo standing and destroyed nog standing. He can hold his own on the ground also.

    The randy fight was two years ago which might not seem like a lot but for someone as old as randy it is. He was coming off one of most impressive wins in his career also and had huge fight camp to prepare for noob lesnar who still wrecked him. But yeah randy not really hw anymore and would be destroyed by overeem now.
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    Originally Posted by Priapus View Post
    Ubereem has the best chance out of anyone but would be easily taken to the ground by Brock’s near unstoppable takedown.
    I guess you didnt watch the first round of Lesnar v Carwin. Lesnars takedowns looked anything but unstoppable.
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    Based on past tactics, I can't see how Lesnar could beat Overeem. Obviously he will try for takedown but with overeem's knees... I doubt he will survive.
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    Originally Posted by MiKey4 View Post
    Based on past tactics, I can't see how Lesnar could beat Overeem. Obviously he will try for takedown but with overeem's knees... I doubt he will survive.
    knees aren't exactly a given when guys are going for takedowns. If they were, Thiago Alves would have probably beat both Fitch and GSP....

    Overeem matches up pretty well with Lesnar, but I think I'd still pick Brock. I'll start seriously thinking about this hypothetical when it looks like Overeem will sign with the UFC--which doesn't seem to be on the horizon very soon.
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    Originally Posted by Horny Goat Weed View Post
    I guess you didnt watch the first round of Lesnar v Carwin. Lesnars takedowns looked anything but unstoppable.
    I guess you didn't read my post, where I said Brock's takedowns were next to unstoppable.
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    Originally Posted by Maiar View Post
    See what happened to Brock with Carwin? Overeem would have finished it.
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    Anything could happen & could go either way but Brock in all likelihood would beat the likes of Overreem or as they call him in France - La Fat Turde Fedor.

    In that category Brock's sheer power , size & strength would prevail. And neither Overreem or La Fat Turde could stop Brock taking them down and when he does and is on top - game over! Brock's striking will definitely improve too.
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    Ubereem will knock lesnar out, lol srs? lol if it hits the ground hes not gonna b.itch make him like he did mir, ubereem def takes it by knock out or sub
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    I haven't seen enough of Overeem at HW. What I've seen from him at LHW tells me he has a small chance. I don't believe he can stop the takedown from Lesnar. I need to see him step it up, or someone sack up and face him. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I favor the dominant wrestler. Flashy K-1 fights mean nothing

    I think it's stupid when someone puts Overeem in the scenario where Carwin was, and says he'd finish. That's like saying if Lesnar gets the clinch he won't be shucked off like Rogers was.
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    depends on if overeem lands a shot and Brock decides to do the "run the **** away" like he did with carwin
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