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Thread: Ironwill2008 V2.0
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04-10-2013, 08:18 PM #8761
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04-11-2013, 07:16 AM #8762
Thanks, Terrence; I had a good day overall. That 3-rep Lunge goal has eluded me, for now, but I hit it as hard as I was able, so no regrets.
That's one of the best things about DB Rows--the freedom of ROM and the ability to loosen-up form just enough to really move some iron while still working the back.
Thanks, FIM; I'm working hard to keep it moving forward.
The burger patty was so dark because I mixed-in some A-1 steak and Worcestershire sauce (along with some onion and garlic powder) into the raw meat before pattying it up. The sugar in the steak sauce charred a bit, but the burgers come out super juicy, even for such a lean cut as sirloin.
Thanks! We'll eat some type of egg meal at just about any time of day, and just about every day as well. They're a great source of protein, fat, and micronutrients.
LOL. I wish whomever did the 'shop would have used Phil Heath's body!
P.S. Do you own a smartphone, Bill? These days everybody has one (I reckon even Sherman has one).
I'll use hers (iphone) occasionally (on the rare instances she's not glued to it). The ipad is nice, with a crystal-clear image, and I'll use it occasionally also. I'm not a big fan of Apple's operating system, but that's probably only because I've always used Windows-based systems (even on the tech stuff I worked on at my former job), and am just not used to Apple's terminology.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
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04-11-2013, 03:48 PM #8763
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Bumped Flyes up a nickel on the top set today and managed 5 good reps. I'll stay at this ramp-up until I can get the 65s to 8 reps, and then bump all three sets up by a nickel at that time.
The tendency is to always do the max that your raw strength can handle right in that moment, but tendons and joints have a way of tapping you on the shoulder and reminding you that's a bad idea somewhere down the line..."First train the mind, then the body."
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04-11-2013, 04:13 PM #8764
Thanks, Mike. It was tempting to grab something heavier a couple of weeks ago when I first brought Flyes back in, but I finally got it through my thick skull that when your shoulders are held together with paper clips, duct tape, and spit, going heavy right out of the chute is a bad move!
The tendency is to always do the max that your raw strength can handle right in that moment, but tendons and joints have a way of tapping you on the shoulder and reminding you that's a bad idea somewhere down the line...
And besides, what's the hurry to get to heavier weight anyway? it'll still be sitting there in the rack, right where it's at now, in a couple of weeks when it can be handled properly.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-12-2013, 08:38 AM #8765
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Great work Bill...chins are looking good.
I don't have a smart phone either....may consider one when I retire (and hopefully travel more).
Avi is looking good.My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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04-12-2013, 09:15 AM #8766
Thanks, Will; I appreciate the comments.
Smart phones are great; practically indispensable in this day and age. I just don't see the need for two of them in my family, at least not right now, especially since we're both retired, and are almost always in the same place.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-12-2013, 09:39 AM #8767
Just caught up on your last couple pages, looking strong as usual, Bill. Hey, have you ever done or considered 1-leg presses? Lyle McDonald (I believe it was, or maybe Cosgrove) suggested it in an article as a way to keep the lower back safer...less stressed if I remember correctly. I've tried it a few times and it feels a little awkward, but definitely hammers the (single) leg that's being worked. Anyway, everything is looking good here, carry on
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04-12-2013, 09:42 AM #8768
Bumped for referances.
Good work on the lunges, I don't see them as a good exercise to tempt failure on.
I would fall over.
Good news on the rows and flyes...there's room for improvements!
As an old school single guy Will, I ditched my cell phone when I learned every single woman is attached to one and they like to text when I'm working.
When I accidently lost it, I made sure it stayed lost.
Don't you ever get a hunkerin' for more reps during your training?
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04-12-2013, 11:42 AM #8769
Hey, Todd, thanks; good to see you in here!
I've tried 1-Legged Presses a few times in the past, and they felt totally alien to me. That's an interesting comment about their safety re: lower back; that's where they really felt odd to me. I've never gone back.
Body mechanics are such an individual subject though, that it's tough to just outright disclaim any exercise for everyone. There are plenty of guys journaling here, a few of them even posting in this journal, who use or have used 1-Leggers with good results.
My best advices are if something doesn't feel 'right,' even with proper form being used, then that 'something' shouldn't be used.
Thanks, Brian, and neither do I. And that's very likely the reason why I've been stuck at 2 reps for what seems like years.
As an old school single guy Will, I ditched my cell phone when I learned every single woman is attached to one and they like to text when I'm working.
When I accidently lost it, I made sure it stayed lost.
We'll (my wife and I) be watching TV (or at least, I will), and she'll be sitting there , thumbs flailing wildly as she texts to whomever.
Don't you ever get a hunkerin' for more reps during your training?
For me, anything over 10 is "high" reps, and I'm hitting that with leg presses right now.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-12-2013, 12:40 PM #8770
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04-12-2013, 02:26 PM #8771
Ironwill2008 V2.0
Closed out the training week, as well as this 3-week segment, with a good effort. Today's training was:
Romanian Deadlift
bar x15 W/U
135x5 W/U
225x3
275x3
315x3
365x3
405x2
Alternate Dumbbell curl
30x8 W/U
35x8
40x8
45x7
Smith Machine Flat Press
95x10 W/U
135x5 W/U
210x8
210x7
210x6
Completed this session in an hour and five minutes. My primary training goal for the day was to solidify the triple on the top set of Romanians. Didn't quite make it today, so I'll go into deload next week determined to work a little harder the following week. I hit that count once, so I know I can do it again.
Picked up a rep on DB Curls, all the while maintaining good form. I plan to bump the weight on all three work sets when I hit 8-across.
Also added a rep on Flat Presses. These are getting a bit stale, performance-wise, but I don't really have any other effective go-to. Barbell Presses are out; they kill my shoulders, and my questionable grip doesn't allow me to safely lift heavy enough dumbbells over my head/face to keep the rep counts down where they'll do me any good. I'll need to do some thinking about this situation. I'm kind of leaning towards using light dumbbells and just running the reps way up, but I've done that in the past with questionable results.
That's it for this one. I'll rest over the weekend, then do a light deload workout on Monday, the contents of which are subject to change on the spur of the moment. I'll probably do some light Barbell Squats, but past that, I'll just kind of wing it.
Post meal was a pair of my wife's take on Huevos Rancheros (IMO, one of the best things that can happen to eggs), along with a couple strips of bacon and a glass of cold milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-12-2013, 02:27 PM #8772No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-12-2013, 02:39 PM #8773
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Great lifts and great fuel, Bill.
How do your Shoulders feel about dips as a substitute for the bench press?
Enjoy your weekend.My training log:
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153596291&p=1062453741#post1062453741
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04-12-2013, 06:41 PM #8774
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04-13-2013, 08:07 AM #8775
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04-13-2013, 11:00 AM #8776
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Nice work on the Smith presses Bill. I saw someone doing about the same wt yesterday, but w/ 2-3" ROM. Surprisingly, a middle aged man.
My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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04-13-2013, 11:20 AM #8777
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04-14-2013, 07:35 AM #8778
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04-14-2013, 11:01 AM #8779
Thanks, Andy. Those little taco shell cups are filled with Mexican rice, black beans, and salsa, with an egg on top, then into the oven. Then out of the oven, they're topped with grated cheese and more salsa. I'm tellin' you, they are really good. We'll usually make them a half-dozen at a time; the leftovers are just as good when reheated in a microwave.
Back in the day before the Arthritis started to get into my hands and wrists, I did Dips all the time. I would love to be able to do them now, but I don't think my wrists will tolerate them. But I've thought about at least giving them a try again, and your mentioning them will have me give them a shot this week during deload.
Have a good weekend yourself.
Thanks, Dan. I appreciate the comments. I'm going to use the week to do some substituting of exercises, something I've been doing for deloads recently. Not only does it keep things a bit more interessting when dealing with these light sessions, it usually gives me some ideas to incorporate into my regular routine.
And you make that BBdotcom shirt look good, bud!
Thanks, Terrence; I feel like I'm going into deload with a little momentum behind me.
I was going to ask about this ^^^^ as well. I know they don't agree with everyone but for me weighted chest dips have become one of my favorite exercises and I really enjoy doing them.
Enjoy your weekend!
Have a good weekend yourself.
Thanks, Will. Those (Presses on the Smith) have worked so well for me for so long that I think I'd still use them even if I could tolerate a free bar. I feel every bit of the work in my chest, which, after all, is the point of Benches.
That minimal ROM, as you know (but apparently not the guy you mention), will only provide minimal muscle stimulation. And it seems like that fact should be common knowledge, but it isn't. It (using a lot of weight in a very narrow ROM) is actually a good way to blow out a shoulder; if he can't press it full range, he's using more weight than his RCs should be subjected to.
A tough lesson to learn the hard way.
Hey, C, thanks. I'm rolling along, and managing to pick up the odd rep here and there. And daggone it, it's always fun to try to push the envelope, even by just a tiny bit.
Thanks, Mike. I got 'em (DB Curls) back in a tight groove Friday. IIRC, the last time I had them in my routine, I worked my way up to sets of 6-8 @50. Don't know if they'll get back to that weight this go-around, but I'm going to make sure that whatever load I use, I make them look good.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-15-2013, 02:09 PM #8780
Ironwill2008 V2.0
Today's session is the first in a series of 3 light deload workouts this week. I'll reduce my loads, keep all reps counts conservative, and stay away from failure. The idea is to get some "active rest," an opportunity for joints and attachments to catch up with the faster-recovering muscles. Today's training was:
barbell squats
bar x10W/U
135x8
185x8
225x8
Chinups
bw x8
bw x8
bw x8
Clean & Press
bar x5 W/U
95x3
95x3
95x3
95x3
95x3
Completed this session in about a half-hour. Got a good stretch from the Squats as well as a decent quad pump.
Repped-out the Chinups with minimal rest between sets, and was wheezing a little at the end of the 3rd set.
I do several sets of C & P with an empty bar as a basic warmup before every training session, and decided to put a bit of iron on the bar and do some triples from the floor. These are quite taxing, even at low weight, and I found myself needing a few extra seconds of rest between the sets, even as short as they were. Good exercise; if I had any amount of confidence in my grip, I'd be doing these in earnest.
That's it for this one. I'll rest tomorrow, then do a light session on Wednesday. Not yet sure what it'll be comprised of, but I'll know when I step in there.
PWO meal was a simple one of 1/4 pound of grilled ground sirloin, Mexican rice, a small cup of fruit, and a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-15-2013, 02:19 PM #8781
- Join Date: Oct 2006
- Location: Kentucky, United States
- Age: 59
- Posts: 21,321
- Rep Power: 48130
Good timing on the deload. Maybe you can enjoy some spring time weather.
I've been thinking about adding some power cleans into the routine, just haven't pulled the trigger yet.My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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04-15-2013, 04:39 PM #8782
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04-16-2013, 08:20 PM #8783
I didn't know you did cleans too- how long did it take you to master them? As you've seen I'm still a fumbling mess half the time, lol.
Do you ever just take a week off too or is the lighter work load typically sufficient for you to recover?My training journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150928103
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04-17-2013, 12:08 AM #8784
Yep, this movement is taxing. I've done it for a couple of weeks when running Paul Carter's 'mass building' routine and I'd feel like passing out right after I was done with it. Excellent movement, though. In my evil opinion, cleaning the weight off the floor and then pressing it is the ideal way to do it. Pavel Tsatsouline said something about your upper back not being tight enough when you just grab the bar from the rack and press it. He was right.
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04-17-2013, 04:25 AM #8785
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04-17-2013, 06:36 AM #8786
It's been unseasonably warm here so far, with temps already in the mid-80's. I'm just hoping we don't see another Summer as severe as last year's.
Power Cleans are another full-body exercise; no muscle goes untouched. Many years ago, when I still had some semblance of shoulder joints and a decent grip, I used them for a little while. They weren't in 'style' for bodybuilders back then though, so I quit using them.
Training is always pretty dull during these light weeks, especially to post about.
I don't have any idea what I'm going to do for exercises today, and am not even going to think about it until I step into the gym.
I don't actually train them; I just use them (with an empty bar) as an overall warmup before every workout. The few 95-pound sets I did Monday was the first time in probably 15 years that I did a few sets with any weight at all.
I consider them to be a 'moderate-skill' exercise; more difficult to learn than, say, Squats or Lunges, but certainly much less difficult than the two Olympic lifts (which I've never done seriously).
Do you ever just take a week off too or is the lighter work load typically sufficient for you to recover?
Nothing wrong with taking an 'off' week, as long as it doesn't become an 'off' month.
I've done some Hang Clean & Press in the past, but I'm with you; might as well start and end every rep on the floor, and work everything.
Lulz. I loved that show back in the day.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-17-2013, 08:11 AM #8787
- Join Date: Oct 2006
- Location: Kentucky, United States
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So the power cleans were rough on the shoulders Bill??
My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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04-17-2013, 08:19 AM #8788No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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04-17-2013, 09:30 AM #8789
- Join Date: Feb 2012
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Posts: 4,646
- Rep Power: 65158
In on deload.
I appreciate how much effort it takes for you to make yourself deload when all you want to do is grit teeth and work hard. Looking forward to next week, I hope you are still set on the dips? I was trying to think of ways to make things more comfortable, but without ever experiencing hand arthritis, its hard to know what its limiting factors are. Would strapping them up make any difference, or just make it worse?My training log:
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153596291&p=1062453741#post1062453741
[]---[] Equipment Crew #43 []---[]
-!!!---!!!- No Excuses Homemade Equipment Crew #1 -!!!---!!!-
()---() York Barbell Club #4 ()---()
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04-17-2013, 10:12 AM #8790No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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