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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    Great discussion (answers) in some recent posts.

    Happy deloading Bill......the joints thank you.
    Thanks, Gale. These light sessions aren't much to log in here, but if it causes someone else to start deloading regularly, then it's worth the time to post 'em.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Thanks, Gale. These light sessions aren't much to log in here, but if it causes someone else to start deloading regularly, then it's worth the time to post 'em.
    Convinced me Bill. Been doing them every 5 or 6 weeks for a while. Definite benefits.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Thanks, Gale. These light sessions aren't much to log in here, but if it causes someone else to start deloading regularly, then it's worth the time to post 'em.
    Bill I love following your Journal and miscellaneous posts. Not only is it inspirational to see the unobtainable (for me and being very realistic) amount of weight you can lift. Your willingness to share your experience and knowledge has kept me from making many mistakes.

    Thanks
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    Hey Bill, just checkin' in for the deload week. My deload week was going to be this week but I held off for one more since momentum has been going so well in my favor lately. It kind of funny how that seems to happen, more often then not, right before a deload week. I've been working hard and I'm still feeling good but I'm at that point where I just know not to push it for much longer.
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    Originally Posted by ljimd View Post
    Convinced me Bill. Been doing them every 5 or 6 weeks for a while. Definite benefits.
    Good deal, Larry. There's no downside to taking scheduled 'light' weeks, or at least, none that I've ever found. At the very least, just the renewed desire to get back to regular training the following week is worth the price of admission all by itself.











    Originally Posted by 1fatoldman View Post
    Bill I love following your Journal and miscellaneous posts. Not only is it inspirational to see the unobtainable (for me and being very realistic) amount of weight you can lift. Your willingness to share your experience and knowledge has kept me from making many mistakes.

    Thanks
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    Thank you, George; I appreciate the comment. If I can help someone else to avoid the mistakes I've made, and to continue to move forward, then I'll figure I'm doing some good in here.




    As far as weight lifted, it's all relative. My work set poundages are warmup weight for many of the guys journaling here.

    As bodybuilders, we always have to keep in mind that the weight we lift, as well as the specific equipment we use to lift it, is merely another tool in the toolbox. And in and of itself, is only of value insofar as for tracking our progress. It's all about results achieved.











    Originally Posted by terman1 View Post
    Hey Bill, just checkin' in for the deload week. My deload week was going to be this week but I held off for one more since momentum has been going so well in my favor lately. It kind of funny how that seems to happen, more often then not, right before a deload week. I've been working hard and I'm still feeling good but I'm at that point where I just know not to push it for much longer.
    Figuring when it's best to back off a bit is all part of the 'instinctive' methods we all use (even if we don't realize that's what we're doing at the time). And as we gain mileage under the bar, those instincts become sharper and sharper.



    I know for myself at least, stuff I used to agonize over, and analyze to death when I was a relative beginner, don't cause me a moment's concern any longer. I just know what I need to be doing, and when to do it, and I rarely ever find myself second-guessing any decision I've made.

    Not boasting here, but rather just pointing out that there is nothing that can substitute for RL experience. Even a monkey should be reasonably good at something he's been doing for 20 years.


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    Originally Posted by cmoore View Post
    Happy Friday. Already looking forward to lurkin next week's awesomeness.
    Hey, C, thanks. I'm already running Monday's leg work (and the other exercises too) through my mind. The reps are already as good as done.

    Have a great weekend.
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    Ironwill2008 V2.0

    This was the last of three light deload workouts this week. I kept all loads conservative, and rep counts intentionally low. I also concentrated on maintaining perfect form on every rep. Today's training was:

    Romanian Deadlift
    bar x15 W/U
    135x5 W/U
    225x5
    225x5
    225x5




    Alternte Dumbbell Curl
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10




    Flat Dumbbell Press
    50x8 W/U
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10



    Moved through this session in about 25 minutes. Every rep was picture-perfect, or at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. My goal next week will be to maintain the same good form with regular loads.

    I brought in Dumbbell Curls today and they will remain in the routine, substituting for Barbell Curls.

    I'd like to keep the Flat Dumbbell Presses, but can't trust my dodgy grip with hoisting enough weight over my face to give me a good workout. I might yet go for a couple of weeks of high-rep stuff though just for a change-up.

    That's all I've got for this day and this week. I'll use the weekend for rest days, and then hit it full speed on Monday with Smith Fronts, Leg Presses, Chinups, and Seated Presses.





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    Originally Posted by billb7581 View Post
    Baconpasta...awesome.... Just checking in Bill.... trying to spend more time actually lifting than posting about it LOL.
    Hey, hello, Bill.

    Lifting is always better than posting about it!
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    Aren't the end of deloads fun?
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    That's some mighty fine looking deloads and those crab cakes look good too. I love em.
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    Originally Posted by BergMuscle View Post
    Aren't the end of deloads fun?
    Yep. It's always enjoyable just to anticipate the return of regular training.










    Originally Posted by storm1507 View Post
    That's some mighty fine looking deloads and those crab cakes look good too. I love em.
    Thanks, Will. We buy those crab cakes already made up and ready to cook. They can either be baked in the oven or fried in a pan.
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    I've never seen someone do de-loads like yourself.
    Between seeing you do them and having Layne tell me to do them...I now do them without being told.
    Yes my friend, you have impact, even when de-loading.

    Have a great weekend brother.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    My goal next week will be to maintain the same good form with regular loads.
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    I've never seen someone do de-loads like yourself.
    Between seeing you do them and having Layne tell me to do them...I now do them without being told.
    Yes my friend, you have impact, even when de-loading.

    Have a great weekend brother.
    Hey, Brian; thanks.

    If anything I post winds up helping anyone else, then I'll consider my time spent here as good.


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    Giddy Up!

    Lulz. Kramer was one of my favorite TV characters.


    On the 'form' issue, I was surprised at how sloppy my Dumbbell Curl form was on the first set; the 'bells were all over the place, as were my elbows.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Thanks, Gale. These light sessions aren't much to log in here, but if it causes someone else to start deloading regularly, then it's worth the time to post 'em.
    Couldn't agree more. Deload weeks are almost a pain to write in. Like, wow, I benched 135 x 5.... who wants to read that? LOL. With 5/3/1 that I'm doing, every 4th week I'll be deloading, but I've been burned already by not deloading. Sadly I'm beginning to get a sense of my own mortality (thanks bicep tendonitis). Very glad to see I'm not the only one doing scheduled deloads.
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    I'm expecting some real weight to be moved in this journel this week. I had deload last week also, I'm ready to go.
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    Looking forward to seeing some weight moved this week, a PR! Have a good week of training Bill.
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    Couldn't agree more. Deload weeks are almost a pain to write in. Like, wow, I benched 135 x 5.... who wants to read that? LOL. With 5/3/1 that I'm doing, every 4th week I'll be deloading, but I've been burned already by not deloading. Sadly I'm beginning to get a sense of my own mortality (thanks bicep tendonitis). Very glad to see I'm not the only one doing scheduled deloads.
    Sometimes the lessons best learned are those hardest learned.

    Light sessions aren't interesting to post, but they're still training sessions, and seeing them logged on a consistent basis just might get someone else on board with them.











    Originally Posted by irongrandpa View Post
    I'm expecting some real weight to be moved in this journel this week. I had deload last week also, I'm ready to go.
    Hey, Bob; so am I!

    Have a productive week.











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    Looking forward to seeing some weight moved this week, a PR! Have a good week of training Bill.
    I'm going to do my best, David.

    Thanks, and same back to you.











    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    Hai, Bill. Had a riveting weekend, I hope? Also, thanks for responding to my question the other day. They are not ready to lift weights, lol. I tried.
    Hey, -L. Our youngest grandson stayed the weekend with us, so it was a good couple of days.

    Older folks in particular are going to be resistant to lifting weights regardless of the weight of the equipment in question. You're fighting against years of myth and misinformation that's been shoved down the public's throat by every form of lay media you'd care to mention.

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    Older folks in particular are going to be resistant to lifting weights regardless of the weight of the equipment in question. You're fighting against years of myth and misinformation that's been shoved down the public's throat by every form of lay media you'd care to mention.

    We can sometimes lead a horse to water, but we can't make him drink.
    I'm finding this to be the truth, I've talked with multiple older folks about how resistance training will help their situation, so far, none of them are willing to even try.
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    Originally Posted by irongrandpa View Post
    I'm finding this to be the truth, I've talked with multiple older folks about how resistance training will help their situation, so far, none of them are willing to even try.
    I think this is pretty much the way these-type things always go, Bob. Weight training in general, and bodybuilding in particular, will always have a stigma attached to it by the public.

    You'd think the old chestnut, "Use it or lose it" would bring older folks over to this side, but that isn't the case.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Our youngest grandson stayed the weekend with us, so it was a good couple of days.
    That's nice. How old is he?

    Older folks in particular are going to be resistant to lifting weights regardless of the weight of the equipment in question. You're fighting against years of myth and misinformation that's been shoved down the public's throat by every form of lay media you'd care to mention.

    We can sometimes lead a horse to water, but we can't make him drink.
    Truth. It kind of pisses me off, though. When you tell someone to lift weights and they say, 'no, thanks', it means they don't trust what you say and feel that your advise will hurt them. Lol wut? Why would I intentionally want to hurt them when they have done nothing to me? Perhaps I need to stop telling people I am Lucifer.
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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    That's nice. How old is he?
    He's 5, and he's a little character! He and Sherman are Best Buds.


    Truth. It kind of pisses me off, though. When you tell someone to lift weights and they say, 'no, thanks', it means they don't trust what you say and feel that your advise will hurt them. Lol wut? Why would I intentionally want to hurt them when they have done nothing to me? Perhaps I need to stop telling people I am Lucifer.
    Lulz @ not revealing your username.

    But I don't think that has much to do with peoples' reluctance to begin weight training. Those of us who embrace this lifestyle will always be in the minority.
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    Lifting is always better than posting about it!
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    Got the training week off to a good start with a productive session. Today's training was:

    Smith Machine Front Squat
    95x10 W/U
    145x8
    195x8
    215x8
    255x7



    Leg Press PWO
    400x12 W/U
    580x12
    670x12
    760x12
    810x11 heh-vee



    Chinup
    bw x5 W/U
    bw x5 W/U
    bw +35x3 W/U
    bw =75x4
    bw +75x3
    bw +75x3




    Overhead Press
    95x5 W/U
    115x5
    120x5
    125x5



    Completed this session in an hour and ten minutes. I added two reps to the top set of Fronts. When I reach 8-across, I'll add more weight. They were tough today but not terrible.

    Picked up one difficult rep on Leg Press. Here also, I'm only one more rep away from reps-across.

    Chins didn't move up today, but they also didn't go backwards, so I'm good with it. For now. More work needs done here.

    I decided to try an experiment with Overhead Presses, and bring them into the routine just to see if they might still be practical for me to use. My right hand didn't protest too much, but I'll need to keep a close eye on the situation if I'm going to add any weight. I'll bump it up cautiously next week by a few pounds.

    That's it for today. I'm pleased with how it went, and really enjoyed doing some good ol' Standing Presses. Back in the day , before my grip started going South, I did these all the time.




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    QFT.

    Hope all is well brother.
    Hey, FIM. Can't really complain, except that it's snowing again here, and The Man says there'll be more of the same for the next day or teo.
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    Nice progress on the front squats.


    I also strongly approve of the PWO meal; nice to see that 3rd slice of bacon there.
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    Bill, just wanted to say that your workouts following deload are always an inspiration, especially the weighted chins and the progress on the front squats.
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