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Thread: Ironwill2008 V2.0
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05-24-2012, 05:37 AM #6751
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05-24-2012, 06:00 AM #6752
It was a combination of exhilaration along with relief that I didn't get pinned to the floor!
It was a good session.
I know that's not a lift that a lot of people will really push hard, but I've been doing them fairly consistently for about 18 years. I'm just really tuned-into them.
Thanks, Jeff. I've been chasing that 3rd Lunge rep for two years now, and even though it was ugly, I'm taking it! I need to work harder at getting all three with good form.
Those tacos look great as well. I'm looking forward to our local farmers market to get ramped up this year.
They're easy to prepare, and can be stuffed with just about anything you care to put in there. Sometimes I'll cook up some ground sirloin with some onions, jalapenos, garlic, cumin and chili powder, and use that instead of chicken.
If you feel worn-down to the point where you're always tired and your lifts are all stalling, do a real deload; cut all your weights by half, and just 'coast' through a week.
^^^^This. A reset is not a deload.
Reset = cutting loads by a certain percentage (I usually use 10%), but still working hard to progress.
Deload = cutting training loads drastically (I use 50%), and training through a light week's cycle, strictly to promote extra recovery.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
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Ironwill2008 Journal:
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05-24-2012, 06:17 AM #6753
My bad, I guess it's more of a reset. Program calls for Heavy Medium and light days ( less 10 percent less 20 percent) moving up 1 rep a week from 8-12 reps. If you get 12 reps you reset at 10 percent higher weight, but back to 8 reps. If you dont get 12 reps you reset at the same weight back to 8 reps.
I've run through 3 cycles and got reps on everything. 4th cycle (the one I am currently in, I stalled on both presses)
Sorry for the confusion.
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05-24-2012, 06:24 AM #6754
Wednesday's training, bumped from the previous page:
Had a good feeling going into this session today, and it proved to be on-target. Got a piece of a long-term goal on one lift and held my own on the other two. Today's training was:
Barbell Lunge
bar x5 W/U
bar x5 W/U
95x3
135x3
185x3
225x3
275x3 barely
Cleared for takeoff
Barbell Row
bar x10 W/U
135x5
165x5
185x5
205x5
230x5
Smith Machine Incline Press
95x10 W/U
135x5
155x5
175x5
195x5
215x4
I completed this session in an hour and fifteen minutes. I was really determined to try for a triple on the top set of Lunges; I figured it was now or never. I got the triple, but the 3rd rep was pretty sloppy. But the bar made it back to the liftoffs after the set, so I'm taking it. The adrenaline rush when I got out from under the bar was unreal; my legs were shaking. Next week, I'll work to try to straighten-out that 3rd rep.
Got my reps-across on Rows with good form, but I'm still not going to bump the weight up just yet. MMC was there today, but I felt like if the bar was even just a little heavier, it wouldn't have been.
After resetting Inclines, I'm working my way back up. they didn't move today, but all reps were solid, so I'm pleased. For now.
I'll rest tomorrow, and then get ready for Deadlifts, Curls, and Flat Bench on Friday.
PWO meal was a pair of whole wheat tortillas wrapped around rice, black beans, chunks of chicken breast, lettuce, pepper jack cheese, sour cream, and picante sauce. Washed 'em down with a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-24-2012, 06:27 AM #6755
Strong sessions in here Bill.
After looking again at your Row picture......I am pretty sure that I have always rowed too wide. Maybe I'll try again.Home Journal: Me vs. Myself @.....http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=125942203
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05-24-2012, 06:28 AM #6756
Thanks, for the comments; they're appreciated.
Lots of good posters in here; we always learn from each other.
Welcome to my journal.
np.
If you've been hitting it hard for a couple of months, it might be time to think about an actual deload.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-24-2012, 06:39 AM #6757
Thanks, Gale; I'm inching my way forward one rep at a time.
In all the years past, by this time, I would have long-since dropped the strength work and gone back to a more-conventional split, but if I can still make a little bit of progress, I'm going to stick with what I'm doing. I'm not naive enough to think I can just continue on forever to get stronger (or even to just maintain my strength), so I feel like I need to make hay while the sun shines.
After looking again at your Row picture......I am pretty sure that I have always rowed too wide. Maybe I'll try again.
A good way to help 'individualize' them is to try one form change at a time, work it hard (as your only back exercise that day), and then see where the DOMS shows up. If you feel it where you want the exercise to work, you're good. If not, try something different the next time.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-24-2012, 06:57 AM #6758
Thanks for the input fellas. Going to run my last workout this week as normal with 20 percent reduced weights, then see how it goes Tuesday after 3 days rest and a reset to 8 reps. If I still feel week in the chest/shoulders I will run a true deload. Bench is the 2nd exercise, I can tell if I am having the same issue early in workout.
We had a couple muggy nights here where I didnt sleep real well so I finally broke down and turned on the AC so that should help.Last edited by billb7581; 05-24-2012 at 10:03 AM.
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05-24-2012, 10:05 AM #6759
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05-24-2012, 11:45 AM #6760
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05-24-2012, 12:29 PM #6761
We've already had one record-setting hot day here this Spring, with another one predicted for tomorrow.
AC FTW.
Thanks, Bake. It's been a good one so far, and I have every expectation that it'll continue tomorrow.
Yes, Deadlifts tomorrow, along with Curls and Flat Presses.
Thanks, Bob. I had a really good day.
You make those lunges look so damn easy...I'm jelly.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-24-2012, 01:46 PM #6762
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05-24-2012, 03:48 PM #6763
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05-24-2012, 05:01 PM #6764
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05-24-2012, 07:25 PM #6765
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05-25-2012, 06:39 AM #6766
LOL.
Thanks; I had a good day Wednesday, and I fully expect another one today.
Thanks, David; I was fired-up to get in there and do work.
I've been drinking a lot of milk since my first day of training, averaging about 3 gallons per week. It's an excellent source of protein, carbs, fat, vitamins and minerals, and the cost is reasonable. Add to that the fact that it tastes good with any meal, and you've got a winner.
I'll pass them along, MH. She does an excellent job, and makes this journal a lot more than just a wall of numbers and text.
Thanks, Tiffany. I've been working towards that goal for over a year. The plan now is to clean up the form on that rep, and then possibly add a few pounds to the bar.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-25-2012, 06:49 AM #6767
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05-25-2012, 03:54 PM #6768
Ironill2008 V2.0
Capped off the week with a productive session. Moved some iron, enjoyed myself while doing it. Today's training was:
Deadlift
135x10 W/U
225x5 W/U
275x3 W/U
315x1 W/U
355x4
355x4
355x4
355x4
395x2
425x2
355x8 barely; a real grind
Tighten 'er up
425x2
Barbell Curl
bar x10 W/U
65x5 W/U
85x3 W/U
112.5x5
112.5x4
112.5x4
Smith Machine Flat Press
95x10 W/U
135x5
165x5
180x5
200x5
220x5
Completed this session in an hour and a half on the nose. Got all my Deadlift numbers on the bump today; the 8-repper was real work. I managed to grind it out, and even kept decent form on the 7th and 8th reps. I'll bump again next week.
Curls didn't move, but I'm near my limit on these, so I was pleased just to have met last session's numbers. More work to be done.
After having stalled at 240x4 on Flats last go-around, I reset all the sets back by 10% and will make another run at it. Hit my reps-across today, as expected (althought they felt a bit heavier than I was expecting; go figure), so I'll bump a nickel next week.
That's all I've got for this 'un. I'll rest over the weekend, and then hit it hard on Monday under the bar with Squats, Chinups, and Seated Presses.
PWO meal was a simple mix of 1/4 pound grilled ground sirloin, two ears of very good corn with butter, a bowl of fresh green beans (cooked with onion, garlic, dill, and bay leaf), and a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-25-2012, 04:03 PM #6769
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05-25-2012, 04:23 PM #6770
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those are some seriously heavy curls Bill.
and the deads...well that almost goes without saying"Some people are like Slinkies. They're not really good for anything but they sure bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs."
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05-25-2012, 05:54 PM #6771
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05-26-2012, 05:49 AM #6772
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I thought Friday was your DL day. Glad I checked.
LOL, I have a sudden thought not to add any more to my DL days after reading that workout. It looks like it was a tough one.My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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05-26-2012, 07:04 AM #6773
Thanks, Jeff. I stalled out at 435x2 (couldn't get the 2nd rep without a hitch), and am making another run at it. One thing's for sure; my work capacity has increased a good bit over the last several months.
Hey Rich; thanks. I'm actully a bit surprised that my wrists haven't acted up from the Straight Bar Curls so far. I'm going to keep grinding away at them and see how far I can get.
THat 8-rep deadlift set is a real buzz-killer; I won't even allow myself to think about it until I'm strapping up for it.
Thanks, Coach. There's a lot to be said for occasionally going back to a very simple, stripped-down routine of just the basics. It certainly has been a lot of fun to see how far I can push it.
Thanks, Will; it was a grind to get through the Deadlifts. That 8-rep (or as many as possible) set at the end is my nemesis.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-26-2012, 08:08 AM #6774
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05-26-2012, 08:11 AM #6775No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-26-2012, 02:24 PM #6776
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05-26-2012, 03:28 PM #6777
Thanks, Bob; I had a good day, and a good week overall.
While no exercise is an absolute "must" for bodybuilders, there are a few that are just too valuable not to use for at least part of the training year. Deadlifts and curling the Long Bar are two of them IMO.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-26-2012, 07:03 PM #6778
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05-27-2012, 08:59 AM #6779
Hey wj, thanks.
Working right along the edge, trying to move it forward just a little bit every week, is right where the progress lies. And since there's no need to go to hard failure or beyond, and no real sense in trying to add a lot of weight all at once to a near-limit lift, injuries pretty much aren't a concern.
Enjoy the long weekend!No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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05-27-2012, 01:32 PM #6780
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