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Nice job with the 405 DL. I see more in the near future....
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Originally Posted by IronAvalanche
You got in some good work today, but, I know you'll be glad to get back to your own gym.
Originally Posted by IronAvalanche
Thanks, Phil. Deadlifts went very well today. I was tempted to just stay there and add more weight, but wanted to work everything else today too.
It's a nice change of pace to change venues, but you're right--there's no place like home.
Originally Posted by merlinsrealm
Nice job with the 405 DL. I see more in the near future....
Hey, thanks! Some days the bar floats; this was one of them. My usual working weight (on my regular split) is 425. I'm working to get that weight to 5 reps, but have currently been stymied at 3. I'll need a breakout at my next Deadlift session.
Originally Posted by Capt_Lou
Thanks, Tom. It was kind of a hybrid session. I pretty much just did what I felt like, simply trying to just get some work to everything.
That Leg Press was a lot smoother than my Parabody; I could have just kept piling on plates until I couldn't get one rep, and then ended the session right there!
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nice EASY 405 lb deads Bill 
GAWD I can't wait to start deadlifting again 
Whole session looked good my friend. seems like the change of venue is a nice change of pace.
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Just wonderin' about the percentage of Americans that lift 400+ lbs off of the floor during their vacation... Anyway, wrist curls at the squat rack FTW! You'll be back at home base soon enough! Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by mharrislove
Just wonderin' about the percentage of Americans that lift 400+ lbs off of the floor during their vacation... Anyway, wrist curls at the squat rack FTW! You'll be back at home base soon enough! Enjoy!
this would require some of them to jump
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We're on a different time zone in Australia, that's my excuse..........in on page 2 
Great work on the deads mate!
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
Thanks to everyone who's come over from my old journal. The support, encouragement, and great information I get in here is the main reason for my being on BB.com.
Got in a good Full-Body session today, at the new YMCA just down the road from us. I simply did some work for each bodypart, and tried to keep things moving.
Deadlift
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5
Star Trac 45 degree Leg Press PWO (plate weight only)
1 plate (per side) x12
2x12
3x12
4x12
5x12
6x12
7x12
Wide Grip Pulldown stack loaded
205x12
Star Trac Machine Incline Press stack loaded
205x15
270x7
Standing Face Pull stack loaded
60x20
Barbell Curl
90x8
Straight Bar Triceps Pressdown stack loaded
90x12
Seated Calf Raise PWO
135x10
Completed this session in about 75 minutes. Deads were easy today. The bar floated up off the floor; 405 felt like butter. Probably should have loaded her up, but I wanted to work everything equally, so I hit 4 plates and moved on.
The Leg Press, along with just about everything else in there, was brand new, and smooth as silk. I could have just stayed there the rest of the session, and then called it a day, but kept things moving.
Not much else to relate, really. Nothing out of the ordinary to report. Although the place was fairly busy, I only had to wait for equipment one time, as a guy was doing Wrist Curls in front of the Squat rack, the only place avalable to Deadlift.
We'll be traveling on Friday, so I won't get back into the gym until Sunday, when I resume my regular split. The Internet connection I'm using here is unreliable; I'll attempt to visit journals as long as my connection holds up today. 
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Solid deads man!!! 405 on deads in an unfamiliar gym on vacation. You now own that YMCA!!! Brb, researching Startrac equipment
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
Got in a good Full-Body session today, at the new YMCA just down the road from us. I simply did some work for each bodypart, and tried to keep things moving.
Good job, Bill.
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Originally Posted by rpaul11
nice EASY 405 lb deads Bill
GAWD I can't wait to start deadlifting again
Whole session looked good my friend. seems like the change of venue is a nice change of pace.
Thanks, Rich; it was just one of those days. Everything felt light.
No doubt you're chomping at the bit to get back to what you were doing. You'll get there; you just have to take a bit of a detour first.
The change is good. This is the first time in a year that I've trained at a different gym. Besides the fresh perspective on things, it also reinforces some of the things I've learned over the years, such as why the average person never progresses, and the need to always keep good form.
Originally Posted by Whatanejit
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Good luck in your new journal home Bill 
Glad you're here, Dee! The previous journal was a very good ride, and with everyone's help, this one will be even better.
Originally Posted by mharrislove
Just wonderin' about the percentage of Americans that lift 400+ lbs off of the floor during their vacation... Anyway, wrist curls at the squat rack FTW! You'll be back at home base soon enough! Enjoy!
LOL! That number is probably limited to us obsessed bodybuilders!
While I was waiting for the space to Deadlift open up, I just stood by and observed what was going on around the gym. Lots of walking around, with not a lot of focus or effort being demonstrating. In fact, the guy doing the Wrist Curls was working harder than anyone else in there at that time. I'm not getting down on people there, simply observing the level of effort being put out. It really crystalizes what must be done in order to progress.
Originally Posted by rpaul11
this would require some of them to jump 
True that!
Originally Posted by alkell
We're on a different time zone in Australia, that's my excuse..........in on page 2
Great work on the deads mate!
Thanks, Al; it was a good session, overall. Glad to have you aboard!
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Nice pulling, swole Bill. You put people like me to shame.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
Deadlift
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5
No doubt this got the YMCA crowd gawking. 
Deads were easy today. The bar floated up off the floor; 405 felt like butter. Probably should have loaded her up, but I wanted to work everything equally, so I hit 4 plates and moved on.
405x5 being "easy" is some strong lifting, Bill. It would be interesting to see where you can take these.
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Originally Posted by VoxExMachina
405x5 being "easy" is some strong lifting, Bill. It would be interesting to see where you can take these.
Bill has pulled 455, but that was months ago. I'm willing to bet he has 465+ in him.
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Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla
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Solid deads man!!! 405 on deads in an unfamiliar gym on vacation. You now own that YMCA!!! Brb, researching Startrac equipment 
LOL! Thanks! I had a pretty good day, overall, but I'll be glad to get back to my own place for Sunday's workout.
Star Trac stuff is okay; it's solidly built, and workable. What makes it really nice here is that it's brand new.
Originally Posted by -=FLEX=-
Thanks, Jim. I got in a good workout, and I left the place pretty well worn-out (me, not the gym!)!
Originally Posted by IronCharles
In before first uber pics of Ironwill's Gym!
So, is the Y going to be a regular thing, Bill? Splitting time with your home gym?
I'm at Myrtle Beach for a few days, Charles, and just went to the nearest facility to get in a few workouts. But even if I lived here, it would only be a temporary thing. My own place is geared strictly for my needs, and other than a few pieces of HammerStrength stuff (that I don't have any floor space to accomodate!), has everything I need.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
Deadlift
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5
Great job with these
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Originally Posted by -Lucifer
Nice pulling, swole Bill. You put people like me to shame. 
Thank you, -L. But it's all relative. With the way you're working, think where you'll be when you've been training as long as I have; you'll be a beast. Just continue to diligently work to lift just a little more than last time.
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Originally Posted by VoxExMachina
No doubt this got the YMCA crowd gawking.
405x5 being "easy" is some strong lifting, Bill. It would be interesting to see where you can take these.
LOL! When I loaded that 4th plate, people started watching. It was actually kind of uncomfortable. I was expecting one of the trainers there to come over and tell me Deads weren't allowed, or something, but that didn't happen.
I just kept my head down, and tried not to make any noise.
When I hit my current PR (455x2) last January (IIRC), that was my goal at the time, and I didn't pursue furthur. I'm thinking this Winter I'll do some work to see if I can move that PR up a little bit.
Originally Posted by -Lucifer
Bill has pulled 455, but that was months ago. I'm willing to bet he has 465+ in him.
That's my thinking as well, -L. As I posted to Vox, this coming Winter I'm planning some purely strength work, and will see if I can push that envelope a little.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
That's my thinking as well, -L. As I posted to Vox, this coming Winter I'm planning some purely strength work, and will see if I can push that envelope a little.
Oh, nice. So does that mean you'll switch to a strength routine? Madcow 5x5 maybe?
I'd be very interested to see your progress. I've seen you do your 'arms/abs/calves, chest/shoulders & legs' routine for ages, lol.
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Originally Posted by pharmamarketer
Thanks, Rob. I had a good day yesterday. I like the Full Body route as a change-up; it allows you to get in a lot of work in a relatively short period of time. And while I'm not normally a fan of single-set work, it works pretty well with the FB layout.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
That's my thinking as well, -L. As I posted to Vox, this coming Winter I'm planning some purely strength work, and will see if I can push that envelope a little.
That's going to be a fun ride. Good job making the most of your time in the gym this week Bill.
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Originally Posted by -Lucifer
Oh, nice. So does that mean you'll switch to a strength routine? Madcow 5x5 maybe?
I'd be very interested to see your progress. I've seen you do your 'arms/abs/calves, chest/shoulders & legs' routine for ages, lol.
I ran a stretch of one variant or another of Starr 5x5 every Winter for years, and made good progress from it. I always came out stronger, and used that new-found strength to good advantage when I then applied it to a bodybuilding split that I always followed up with. In fact, it was that strategy (periodizing a strength program with a hypertrophy program) that was responsible for taking me from a 130 bag of dust to a lean 200 pounder at age 56.
A few years ago, (right before I joined this site), was the last time I ran the 5x5. But with all those years of training, I had progressed to a point where I could no longer sustain linear progression; I completely stalled out in about 6-7 weeks, IIRC.
So, rather than get on a pre-planned program, I'll simply do what I did last Winter--build myself a hybrid routine, combining strength and some regular bodybuilding work, into a plan aimed at my specific weaknesses. Of course, it will be centered on the compounds, with some selected isos added in.
I've always loved low-rep/heavy weight training, and if I'd gotten into this when I was younger than 45, I may well have gone the powerlifting route.
Last edited by ironwill2008; 10-09-2010 at 06:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by ectoBgone
That's going to be a fun ride. Good job making the most of your time in the gym this week Bill.
Hey, Jason! Thanks! It's a good change of pace to look at some different gym scenery. It keeps me cognizant of both what's good, as well as what's lacking, in my training at home.
I made some good progress last Winter; I was very pleased to have been able to bust a 5-year-old Deadlift PR (although it took many weeks of work to do so; progress for me comes very slowly these days!). I'd like to see if I can do it again this Winter.
Last edited by ironwill2008; 10-07-2010 at 08:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
In fact, the guy doing the Wrist Curls was working harder than anyone else in there at that time.
For years, when I was deluded and doing "bodypart 1x per week (in isolation) programs" I was still gutting out every rep, grinding out supersets of upright rows and lateral raises... etc., etc. I did sets and sets of curls and triceps pushdowns and shrugs. I was under the impression that I was a "hardgainer", and that I needed to just push to failure, and I would eventually make the gains.
If I could've just let the info enter my head that I needed to eat more and do compound exercises for awhile to gain mass, I would've made those gains and probably would've stuck with it for the long haul.
So even though I was deluded I certainly tried my hardest in the gym every day. And I would've loved to have someone come and grab me by the ear and force me to do things the right way for a month or two just to see the results; someone to teach me to squat and deadlift and such. Unfortuntely, as many have mentioned, today's gyms stop helping after you sign up, and they would much rather you did a quick machine workout and leave -- or better yet, never come back at all!
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Originally Posted by janzbot71
For years, when I was deluded and doing "bodypart 1x per week (in isolation) programs" I was still gutting out every rep, grinding out supersets of upright rows and lateral raises... etc., etc. I did sets and sets of curls and triceps pushdowns and shrugs. I was under the impression that I was a "hardgainer", and that I needed to just push to failure, and I would eventually make the gains.
That's a fairly universal problem among newer trainees. By focusing on the wrong things, their early progress is stymied, and most just get discouraged and quit altogether.
If I could've just let the info enter my head that I needed to eat more and do compound exercises for awhile to gain mass, I would've made those gains and probably would've stuck with it for the long haul.
This is something that everyone has to go through. Some see the light, start training/eating/resting correctly and start making real progress, and others, not so much.
So even though I was deluded I certainly tried my hardest in the gym every day. And I would've loved to have someone come and grab me by the ear and force me to do things the right way for a month or two just to see the results; someone to teach me to squat and deadlift and such.
Some guys catch on by themselves, but a RL mentor is the quickest, best way to find the right path. There's nothing like having a knowledgeable person standing right over you, helping you to do everything correctly.
Unfortuntely, as many have mentioned, today's gyms stop helping after you sign up, and they would much rather you did a quick machine workout and leave -- or better yet, never come back at all!
As long as your automatic monthly deduction to the fitness center is in operation, that's about the extent of involvement you can expect.
It's all about the money.
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Originally Posted by ironwill2008
Deadlift
135x5
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5
Great pulling Bill. And it's not even Friday!
Star Trac 45 degree Leg Press PWO (plate weight only)
1 plate (per side) x12
2x12
3x12
4x12
5x12
6x12
7x12
I like that progression scheme. Did you get the leg press bug while doing these??? 
Deads were easy today. The bar floated up off the floor; 405 felt like butter.
Maybe you should weigh those 45# plates at that gym!
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405 DL's floating off the floor like butter....nice.
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