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    best estrogen blocker?

    not running a ph or anything, just seem to gain a lot of fat easy and little muscle on a clean bulk.
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    Don’t know about the “best,” but…

    ATD is probably the most powerful OTC option (or transdermal formestane).

    If you wanted to go with something mild (and that won’t dry hump your androgen receptors like ATD), DIM is my favorite.

    Pretty much any product with I3C and/or DIM (and maybe Resveratrol) should help nudge the ole estrogen:testosterone ratio a bit.

    In the end though, gaining a lot of fat on a clean bulk is more likely due to diet than E:T ratios (IMO) -- of course, your idea of "a lot of fat" and mine may be a bit different (I am, after all, currently Chubby McChubberson).
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    I don't like ATD anymore. DS Triazole sounds good, but I've never tried it. I really like Formadrol and was pleasantly surprised.
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    Billton,Formadrol from LG Science?Is it any good?
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    Triazole's getting a lot of love, I just picked some up.
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    Im sure Triazole will be said at least 100x more because its the hot new product

    but as mentioned atd is super cheap but libido can issue for some
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    How about Arimedex from BPI Sports any good?
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    Originally Posted by Intellectural View Post
    Triazole's getting a lot of love, I just picked some up.
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    Im sure Triazole will be said at least 100x more because its the hot new product
    Hot new product, but more importantly effective new product.
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    Originally Posted by mark118 View Post
    Im sure Triazole will be said at least 100x more because its the hot new product

    but as mentioned atd is super cheap but libido can issue for some
    With blood work to back it up
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    Originally Posted by RMA08 View Post
    How about Arimedex from BPI Sports any good?
    garbage
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    I'll bet Triazole will become a lot of peoples go to product for this type of thing.
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    I think it was a give in but even more so with all of the ATD recalls.
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    Originally Posted by RMA08 View Post
    Billton,Formadrol from LG Science?Is it any good?
    Yeah, I thought so. It wasn't as strong as Novedex XT or Inhibit-E, but it had fewer sides and didn't kill libido.
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    Triazole would be my choice.
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    SNS use to make a really good e-blocker, but i am no sure if it is on the market anymore.

    edit.... Inhibit-e was the name of the product.
    can't ya show some class?
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    Nolvadex or clomid are said to be the best but they require a prescription to buy them. So whats the best alternative? I plan to take Superdrol and milk thistle and fish oils. Just need the E-blocker.
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    Originally Posted by evilsteve02 View Post
    SNS use to make a really good e-blocker, but i am no sure if it is on the market anymore.

    edit.... Inhibit-e was the name of the product.
    it can still be had ATM

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    Nolvadex or clomid are said to be the best but they require a prescription to buy them. So whats the best alternative? I plan to take Superdrol and milk thistle and fish oils. Just need the E-blocker.
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    can Inhibit-e be stacked with Testforce2 and/or bulk DAA?
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    Triazole, as mentioned, is a great option.

    ATD is also a very powerful AI that doesn't require a large dose to be effective.
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    Originally Posted by uforce View Post
    can Inhibit-e be stacked with Testforce2 and/or bulk DAA?
    i dont see why not but ill check to make sure
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    Originally Posted by AlphaTauMuscle View Post
    i dont see why not but ill check to make sure
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    Originally Posted by uforce View Post
    tried to pm you, but your box is full (no homo)
    cleared
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    Would not suggest ATD for OP's purpose.
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    Originally Posted by BringnIt View Post
    Would not suggest ATD for OP's purpose.
    why not?
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    Originally Posted by burchboy View Post
    not running a ph or anything, just seem to gain a lot of fat easy and little muscle on a clean bulk.
    unless you've done your bloodwork and KNOW you have an estrogen problem, estrogen blockers are not a good idea for someone with a healthy endocrine system. estrogen is just as important as testosterone in the body.
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    Originally Posted by Billton View Post
    Yeah, I thought so. It wasn't as strong as Novedex XT or Inhibit-E, but it had fewer sides and didn't kill libido.
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    Originally Posted by uforce View Post
    why not?
    See: ratmonkey's post.

    Additionally, ATD is not anabolic according to the limited research on the subject. See: Gaspari's study; neuron's post on the topic.
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    if you REALLY need estrogen control, see your doctor. this kind of thing needs expert bloodwork monitoring.
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    Originally Posted by BringnIt View Post
    See: ratmonkey's post.

    Additionally, ATD is not anabolic according to the limited research on the subject. See: Gaspari's study; neuron's post on the topic.
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