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    Suggestions on power snatch and clean? I don't even know where to begin. I wan't to do these exercises, but I want to make sure I get the form down first. They just seem to be so intimidating.
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    Originally Posted by AntonioWright View Post
    Suggestions on power snatch and clean? I don't even know where to begin. I wan't to do these exercises, but I want to make sure I get the form down first. They just seem to be so intimidating.
    http://www.californiastrength.com

    The power clean is considerably easier to learn. I cannot power-snatch properly, will probably work with an Olympic weightlifting coach when I want to start. There are a few in my area.
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    12/14/2010

    Warmups
    Moderate rowing for 2:30
    High knee marches
    Air squats
    Kettlebell swings
    Squat stretch
    Static hip flexor stretch

    Workout

    For front squats, I once again focused primarily on form - slow down, fast up. I stopped the set as soon as I felt any kind of forward pitch (BTBAM suggested this happens when my hamstrings relax at the bottom, and focusing on "slow down fast up" has certainly helped this a lot).

    Front squats: 5x45, 5x95, 3x115, 3x135, 2x2x155



    I've reset on the press, incrementing by 5lbs each time

    Press: 5x45, 5x65, 3x5x90

    Working on the "grease the groove" technique for chins, so will be doing them every workout, even if its just a couple of sets. The aim is to go nowhere close to failure and do reps explosively.

    Chins: 3, 3

    Hang power cleans: 3x95

    Power cleans: 2x3x95, 5x115


    Conditioning/practice

    Sticking with the Tabata method for conditioning in the forseeable future, it is quick, brutal, and sends my heart rate through the roof in a very short time. For the burpees I used the variation with the pushup (see here: http://tabataexercise.com/tabata-burpees/).

    Tabata burpees (w/pushup): 7, 6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4 (these are the reps I achieved in each 20 sec interval)

    Kettlebell snatches: practiced

    Wall balls (finisher): 25x15lb ball (9ft throw)

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    Wow,

    looking MUCH better, Zen! Can you see what I was pointing out now? You are making it look like a true olympic front squat.

    Pendlay makes a good point about the upper back fatiguing much faster with a front squat, causing the back to curve and round in a wrong way soon in the lift. He says that this will just go away with time, so as you keep adding weight don't worry immediately about the upper back round-age. Just focus on staying as upright as possible and mimicking your lighter sets, the strength will be substantial and quality. Good luck, and great improvements!
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    Originally Posted by BTBAM View Post
    Wow,

    looking MUCH better, Zen! Can you see what I was pointing out now? You are making it look like a true olympic front squat.

    Pendlay makes a good point about the upper back fatiguing much faster with a front squat, causing the back to curve and round in a wrong way soon in the lift. He says that this will just go away with time, so as you keep adding weight don't worry immediately about the upper back round-age. Just focus on staying as upright as possible and mimicking your lighter sets, the strength will be substantial and quality. Good luck, and great improvements!
    Thanks! I could definitely feel what you were pointing out while doing my set, going down slower allowed me to keep tightness through my hips and hamstrings, and I was able to control the bounce at the bottom so that it propelled the weight up instead of forward.
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    12/16/2010

    Warmups
    Rowing (slow): 2:30
    High knee march
    Butt kicks
    Hip flexor stretch
    Air squats

    Workout
    Overhead squat: 8x45, 5x65, 3x8x77.5
    Pull-ups: 4, 4, 3, 3
    Dips: 7 (backpack), 10 (unweighted)

    Assistance/form work
    Power clean (form): 2x3x95 [work on the hang clean next time, focus on the jump and touching the thigh the time after]
    Stiff leg deads: 5x95, 2x6x135
    Hypers: 8x25, 10x25

    Conditioning
    Wall balls - Tabata protocol: MIN 6
    Basically I do eight rounds of 20 seconds with a 10 second interval. The round with the minimum reps is my score, in this case 6. Killer, hamstrings, glutes and lower back are smoked.

    Stretching and cooldown
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    Good stuff on those front squats! Nice to see some videos.
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    Originally Posted by PBateman2 View Post
    Good stuff on those front squats! Nice to see some videos.
    Thanks brah!

    12/18/2010

    Warmup
    Rowing for 2:30, High knee march, A-skips, butt kicks, hip flexor stretch, squat stretch

    Workout
    Front squat: 5x45, 3x95, 3x115, 3x135, 3x155, 2x160
    Press: 5x45, 5x70, 3x5x92.5
    Pull-ups (grease the groove method): 3, 3

    Assistance
    Kettlebell get-ups: 2 x (each side) x35lbs
    Kettlebell snatches: Practice


    Notes
    • I worked on keeping my wrist alignment during the press, and found the weight went up much easier and more forcefully when I did this. I have flexible and floppy wrists, and realized I was letting them bend backward and decreasing my leverage. Will focus on good wrist alignment in the future.
    • Pull-ups were harder following the press.
    • With kettlebell get-ups, I'm focusing on using them as a mobility drill and working on technique, not bothered with increasing weight or reps just yet
    • I have a date with my wife, so I had to leave the gym early, will do power cleans tomorrow, working on form from the hang position
    • I'm still logging my food intake on myplate, just not posting it here. Average is 2500 cals, 170 P, 100 F, the remainder carbs.
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    12/19/2010

    Strengh-endurance/flexibility

    Warmup
    High knee march, A-skips, butt kicks, hip flexor stretch, squat stretch

    Workout

    Kettlebell get-ups: 2 x (each arm) x 35lbs

    Kettlebell snatch: 10 x (right arm) x 35lbs, 10 x (left arm) x 35lbs, 10 x (switch arms) x 35lbs

    Cossack squats: I can finally do cossack squats without putting my hands on the floor for support. Was barely able to do them with both hands on the floor when I started.



    Tabata kettlebell snatches with a 35lb kettlebell, switched arms each interval: Averaged 7-9 reps per interval for 8 intervals, not too bad


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    Pigeon, cobbler, bridge, wheel

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    Am visiting family for Christmas break, so I won't be doing any training until I return, apart from playing around with my kettlebell. Back on the 28th, will train on the 29th.
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    12/21/2010

    Adult gymnastics class @ Broadway gymnastics, Los Angeles

    Most fun I've had in a while, tumbling, forward tucks, flips, uneven bar work, dragon kicks and whole bunch of other gymnastics goodness. Anyone in the LA area looking to incorporate gymnastics, this is highly recommended. Coach Jones is fantastic.

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    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Today's workout: Turkish get-up with 50lb 5-year old

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    Back home after 5 days in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Was pretty tired from the flight so just worked out at home. I got an Iron Gym so I can work my pull-ups/chins using the frequency method. Right now I do 3 pullups every time I use the restroom.

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    that site was nice
    why dont you do pistols off a box and keep increasing the depth as you progress? thats how am learning them now...
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    Originally Posted by asulik View Post
    that site was nice
    why dont you do pistols off a box and keep increasing the depth as you progress? thats how am learning them now...
    Yep, that's what I'm doing. It's not a major concern for me, focusing on my compound lifts and pull-ups mainly. Pistols are more of a fun move that I want to master, but wont put too much effort into just yet until later. I can already do them to a low box, as well as do a full pistol if I hold on to my door.
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    Felt a little under the weather, so decided to play it safe and skip the gym. Stuck with the chins every time I used the loo, and did a few kettlebell squats to keep moving.

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    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    Felt a little under the weather, so decided to play it safe and skip the gym. Stuck with the chins every time I used the loo, and did a few kettlebell squats to keep moving.

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    nice work man. are KB squats with the KB overhead?
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    Originally Posted by adoboandryce View Post
    nice work man. are KB squats with the KB overhead?
    Nope, I hold it in the rack position. I can do overhead KB squats with up to 35lbs, but with my 44lbs at home its a little risky because there is no way to dump safely without smashing my floor.

    12/30/2010

    Was still not 100% yesterday, so will stick with simple home stuff until I'm feeling good enough to hit the gym.

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    Chins: 3,4,4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,2
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    1/1/2011

    Watched the Rose Parade, showed my friend some kettlebell moves, did a few chins, not much.

    1/2/2011

    First day back in the gym, ate lunch too late so still had food in my belly. Got to the gym late, was only able to do front squats before it closed. Felt decent though.

    Warmup
    Walking for 2:30
    Butt kicks
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    nice workout man. btw i drove through pasadena yesterday on my way from camarillo to san dimas. so many people walking and using the metro!
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    1/3/2011

    Hang power clean: 3x3x95, 4x3x115
    Deadlift + hang power clean: 3x115
    Power clean: 3x115, 2x3x135
    Press: 5x45, 5x65, 3x5x95

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    FYI, going to simplify even further because it is hard to maintain energy towards the end of weekday workouts after a long day at work + long commute. Pull-ups will be trained throughout the week at home, so no need to include them in the workouts.

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    Front squat (triples, linear progression)
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    Power cleans (triples)
    Assistance: Hypers

    Saturday:
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    1/5/2011

    Started training the power snatch as planned. The main reason I'm doing it is because it is otherwise very hard to get the bar into position for an overhead squat.

    Hang power snatch: lots of sets (10+) with just the bar, 3x2x65, 3x2x75
    Power clean: 3-5 sets with 95lbs (form work), 2x3x115, 3x3x135

    Main focus on both of these was keeping my arms straight until the top of the jump. Still not perfect though, I really want to make it down to Waxman's gym for a few sessions so I can have a proper Oly coach look at my form.

    Abs: Hanging leg raises, lying leg raise
    Kettlebell swings: 40x44lb kettlebell (aim is 100 consecutive swings, then move to a heavier bell)
    Chins (frequency method): 4x4

    This week will do sets of 4, next week sets of 5. Haven't tested max since starting frequency method, will test it once I'm doing sets of 10. On days I don't workout, I'm still doing the chins, usually 4-5 sets, just not logging them.
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    Front squats: 5x45, 3x95, 3x115, 3x135, 3x3x155 (go to 157.5)
    Press: 5x45, 5x70, 3x5x100 (go to 102.5)

    Miscellaneous: Cossacks, wall handstands, various stretches

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    Front squats: 5x45, 3x95, 3x115, 3x135, 3x3x155 (go to 157.5)
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    Miscellaneous: Cossacks, wall handstands, various stretches

    Going to a rock climbing gym tomorrow (always wanted to try it out) and then have a kettlebell class on Sunday.
    Have fun at the climbing gym. I got addicted to climbing/bouldering for a few months. It will work muscles in your body that you did not know existed.
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    Have fun at the climbing gym. I got addicted to climbing/bouldering for a few months. It will work muscles in your body that you did not know existed.
    Yeah, I'm just going to play around tomorrow, I'll try not to get addicted.
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    Went to a rock climbing gym for the first time and tried bouldering. Was able to do the beginner routes (VB), and managed to do one V0 route (routes are rated from V0-V16, 16 being the hardest). The hardest part by far was trying to get a firm hold rather than brute strength. Finger strength is a serious factor, and almost impossible to train in the gym.
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    Went to a rock climbing gym for the first time and tried bouldering. Was able to do the beginner routes (VB), and managed to do one V0 route (routes are rated from V0-V16, 16 being the hardest). The hardest part by far was trying to get a firm hold rather than brute strength. Finger strength is a serious factor, and almost impossible to train in the gym.
    Nice! I hope you had fun. I remember the first time that I went I spent many hours there and all of the calluses that I had on my hands were ripped off and sore for the following days.
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    Originally Posted by lefthandedstraw View Post
    Nice! I hope you had fun. I remember the first time that I went I spent many hours there and all of the calluses that I had on my hands were ripped off and sore for the following days.
    Yeah, it was a lot of fun, but much harder than expected. The hardest part for me was just holding on to those seemingly tiny holds, I didn't have the finger strength even for many of the V0 holds. My fingers basically kept giving out, I didn't feel like the rest of my body was doing much work, but I'm sure that will improve as my fingers get stronger.

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