Cost No Object Machines and Free Weights, the Best of the Best

[RestoringTally]

Not sure if you guys have seen this company called HARDKORE. Looks like some nutty equipment:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Entire-Gym-f...item3f343c8e98

I don't like the look of the enclosed with "plates with holes" look.

I like this part the best (the ad is for a complete gym):

Shipping: $6.20 Expedited Shipping

[coach_ras]

Have opportunity to trade out a Hammer iso front lat Pulldown (replaced it with Avenger Pulldown) for this Bodymasters selectorized low row... Like features such as the 300# stack and Kevlar belt etc. Looking forward to demo. Anyone have experience or opinion on this piece?

[STR8OUT]

Have opportunity to trade out a Hammer iso front lat Pulldown (replaced it with Avenger Pulldown) for this Bodymasters selectorized low row... Like features such as the 300# stack and Kevlar belt etc. Looking forward to demo. Anyone have experience or opinion on this piece?

Its a great machine, I've liked the ones I've used. I think the most important factor of these machines are the height of the row pulley. That one sits nice right about belly button height. Anything lower and my back gets tweaked every time.

[JEROMESIMONNET]

[irongym]

Out visiting my brother in-law and his family in Plano Texas. Trained tonight at ...Destination Texas. Great gym, great atmosphere, and some decent equipment. Not many best of the best peices, but a good mix of high quality equipment ranging from basic free weight benches, lifting platforms, monolifts, strongman implements, 180lb dumbbells, Hammer Strength, etc. if you are in the area definetly recommend making it a stop. I took pictures, I will load them on my ******** page when I get home next week for anyone who is interested.

[irongym]

Question:

Anyone know the best place to buy GP Industries cable attachements.? I'm in Plano now and would love to see them in person if possible. Thanks!

http://www.gpindinc.com/products/clu...cessories.html

http://www.gpindinc.com/products/clu...cessories.html

[JEROMESIMONNET]

[Jetigen]

JEROMESIMONNET, I understood you are the guy in videos trying Panatta pieces. As I recall you were critical of their machines few months ago. Just curious to know if your opinion has changed. Any input?

[JEROMESIMONNET]

The incline is pretty bad. I was with 2 friends. None of us liked the trajectory of the movement arms. On top of this, unilateral work is very impractical on it.
The squat is OK because it does not force me to round my back as most squat machines do (to me). I still cannot understand why would anyone in the US buy Panatta when one has access to american machines? Panatta is a very low quality brand.

[Jetigen]

The incline is pretty bad. I was with 2 friends. None of us liked the trajectory of the movement arms. On top of this, unilateral work is very impractical on it.
The squat is OK because it does not force me to round my back as most squat machines do (to me). I still cannot understand why would anyone in the US buy Panatta when one has access to american machines? Panatta is a very low quality brand.

Thanks for info. I own an older Panatta lateral raise machine. It's a stout piece. Built quality is comparable to Body Masters. I like its biomechanics.

Here is my Panatta machine:

[JEROMESIMONNET]

Built quality is comparable to Body Masters.

Just by looking at it, I see 2 major differences:
- Major US brands would not use such a small weight stack
- You cannot take the machine appart which is important for home gyms.
Furthermore, I do not expect a machine to be perfect (to suit my morphology). I modify the machine myself. The more you can disassemble the machine, the easier it is to improve it. As a result, it is hard to improve a panatta.

[HealthNutMD]

The incline is pretty bad. I was with 2 friends. None of us liked the trajectory of the movement arms. On top of this, unilateral work is very impractical on it.
The squat is OK because it does not force me to round my back as most squat machines do (to me). I still cannot understand why would anyone in the US buy Panatta when one has access to american machines? Panatta is a very low quality brand.

You are a complete Troll.


The version brough to the Paris show was a prototype. I have access to the changes in trajectory and alignment they are making. They are making a lot of changes and refining every aspect of the machine. They simply wanted to bring a prototype to the show. Once I have the final version here, people can come and compare the Panatta Machines to all of the best of the best American machines every made, and they will see why Panatta makes some of the best machines ever made. Specifically they will see why all 14 pieces I am ordering are better than anything in the world. Again, anyone that wants to make broad statements about an entire company instead of machine by machine basis is a moron. Every company makes good and bad machines... some perhaps make 0 that are worthwhile. Panatta on the other hand makes at least 14 machines that are magnitudes of order better than anything ever made in the USA or elsehwere. I already gave the list of which machines and benches are best of the best. You are a waste of time.

Again, it is a machine by machine basis. Panatta makes many, many machines. I reccomend of course only the ones we have disscussed.

I look forward to when I can have several people here visit me in Florida where they can come and see what I am talking about.

Also, if you saw the PDF file, non-disclosure to public (that I have read), you would see the entire list of refinements for the Super Incline bench. I can guarantee 100%, that once you guys get the final version, its going to be the best incline leverage bench on the market... and not by a small amount. I look forward to releasing the video and changes they are making when I am able and allowed to do so in June.

[HealthNutMD]

Just by looking at it, I see 2 major differences:
- Major US brands would not use such a small weight stack
- You cannot take the machine appart which is important for home gyms.
Furthermore, I do not expect a machine to be perfect (to suit my morphology). I modify the machine myself. The more you can disassemble the machine, the easier it is to improve it. As a result, it is hard to improve a panatta.

1) You are misinformed and uneducated. They have a boltable version if the frames available for 100 - 120 Euros

2) They have a Heavy stack option which is 100% adequate. As I mentioned before, people must order the heavy stack... however this is true with many machines, like Cybex, Strive, Power-Lift. Many companies do not have enough weight on the standard version. ORDER THE HEAVY STACK.

3) You are also saying the Squat is OK, but it is NOT Ok. Panatta needs to remove the safety lever from hitting the ground on that squat machine. Your 'reviews' are garbage.

[HealthNutMD]

On another note, I'm hoping to have a 6,000 sq foot place under agreement within a couple days. Its been crazy. I've been working at a great (but hectic) new job out of a suitcase. I had a battle with a mosquito infestation at a piece of crap temp apartment so I have to go to a new, but excellent temp apartment (south beach) today after work. Lots going on... Look forward to more good news soon.

They last day to jump on the Panatta order will probably be around May 15th. Once we get past the third week (around May 21st), I don't want to take the chance it would delay our shipment. So if anyone wants to place an order, please contact me before May 15th.

[qaz123]

The incline looks good.

The guy in the video needed to slow down the movement, put his head back and adjust the seat higher when he switched to the wider handles.

Poor review.

And who does unilateral chest work? Sounds like a back injury waiting to happen.

[Agathomax]

3) You are also saying the Squat is OK, but it is NOT Ok. Panatta needs to remove the safety lever from hitting the ground on that squat machine. Your 'reviews' are garbage.

I'm pretty sure Panatta already made a very similar equipment 15 years ago, but with selectorized weight stack..

Just for the history, I've found some pictures of this machine:

i.imgur.com/lBAD5R1.jpg

i.imgur.com/EoiKasT.jpg

[irongym]

Super lazy tonight after a luck ass leg workout. Anyone know the last page of the updated BOTB list?

[HealthNutMD]

It's not too far back... I don't have my computer with me... Only my cell phone for a couple more months.

I had a sticky on which page it is located ... It's probably 206 or something. Let me know also.

[Camarija]

Super lazy tonight after a luck ass leg workout. Anyone know the last page of the updated BOTB list?

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[HealthNutMD]

[QUOTE=SteelMightyMan;1240872373]To Chris.

To troll.

you have to read the history in this forum to understand my reply. Unless you read his previous posts and look through the previous past you would not understand this. Secondly I'm in this for a hobby not for money. I am a physician not into sales. So why don't you first read this entire thread and his previous nonsense, and get back to us.

I don't make any money on the panatta order, as people Here in the group know and have worked on it with me. Nice fake account.

[harrisg83]

Dude, you just crossed the line...Chris doesn't need me to stick up for him but I will anyway. I've trusted him with a fairly large sum of money even after having a few bad experiences in the past with other such transactions and he came through with the goods. I'm also part of the Panatta deal and of course I have no worries that I get my equip when it's ready. Chris is one of the most honest, straightforward people I have ever known. You may not agree with him but these's no B.S. in him. You should be ashamed of making such inflammatory comments without really knowing the person your making your accusations against. I hope your a man of your word and just go away![QUOTE=SteelMightyMan;1240965823]To narcissist

Yes I have read through the forum. I now know you are a liar and a criminal. Yeah everyone is a physician until proven otherwise. Who would buy things off some guy on the internet sounds risky. I wouldn't be going to some guys house in Florida to view equipment for all we know you could be American psycho!! Not a fake profile was just getting started. But yes I am getting off this forum wouldn't want to be around when the FBI close in on you. You sound like a prick. You are just fooling everyone here on the forum

[HealthNutMD]

Lame troll... As if people don't know me personally here. Lame fake account.

About as lame as that demo of the prototype.

[daniel327]

To narcissist

Yes I have read through the forum. I now know you are a liar and a criminal. Yeah everyone is a physician until proven otherwise. Who would buy things off some guy on the internet sounds risky. I wouldn't be going to some guys house in Florida to view equipment for all we know you could be American psycho!! Not a fake profile was just getting started. But yes I am getting off this forum wouldn't want to be around when the FBI close in on you. You sound like a prick. You are just fooling everyone here on the forum

Will there be an English language translation of this diatribe?

[twodog]

[QUOTE=SteelMightyMan;1240965823]To narcissist

Yes I have read through the forum. I now know you are a liar and a criminal. Yeah everyone is a physician until proven otherwise. Who would buy things off some guy on the internet sounds risky. I wouldn't be going to some guys house in Florida to view equipment for all we know you could be American psycho!! Not a fake profile was just getting started. But yes I am getting off this forum wouldn't want to be around when the FBI close in on you. You sound like a prick. You are just fooling everyone here on the forum

To troll, SteelMightyMan, Jeromesimonnet, whoever you are. Why does it seem that the only time I hand out red chiclets is to you ? Stay away if you have nothing worthwile to add to any of these threads. It must be lonely for you as I believe that even the French think that you are a pompous arse.

Go Away !

[sandrini122]

I have all of the GP attachments. I got them from the owner of GP in Paso Robles California. They are all great except the single handles. They are too heavy. The 2 best attachments I have are from TK Star. The V-bar and his cable row attachments are unbelievable!

[dumb.bell]

Has anyone purchased the TK Star OLD SCHOOL ROW HANDLE ATTACHMENT? If so, what are your thoughts?

[bigfeather]

[QUOTE=harrisg83;1240979663]Dude, you just crossed the line...Chris doesn't need me to stick up for him but I will anyway. I've trusted him with a fairly large sum of money even after having a few bad experiences in the past with other such transactions and he came through with the goods. I'm also part of the Panatta deal and of course I have no worries that I get my equip when it's ready. Chris is one of the most honest, straightforward people I have ever known. You may not agree with him but these's no B.S. in him. You should be ashamed of making such inflammatory comments without really knowing the person your making your accusations against. I hope your a man of your word and just go away!

To narcissist

Yes I have read through the forum. I now know you are a liar and a criminal. Yeah everyone is a physician until proven otherwise. Who would buy things off some guy on the internet sounds risky. I wouldn't be going to some guys house in Florida to view equipment for all we know you could be American psycho!! Not a fake profile was just getting started. But yes I am getting off this forum wouldn't want to be around when the FBI close in on you. You sound like a prick. You are just fooling everyone here on the forum

I own one of the best facilities in the United States and I have personally visited Chris at his home in California before his very smart move to Florida. He is the real deal. Know's his facts inside and out and does not beat around the bush. I owe much if not all of my equipment obsession to him and this thread. Chris and I have been in on equipment purchases that topped $50,000. There are only a few guys around I would trust.. Chris, TJ, Harris etc.. He has no motive other than to see you become the best you can be by obtaining the best equipment possible. Chris is a rare breed. A true Statesman when It comes to everything exercise equipment. I cannot thank him enough. David Feather

[irongym]

I trained at one of my favorite gyms in Edmonton on Wednesday, Snap Fitness on Calgary Trail. I got an opportunity use a Nebula selectorized bicep curl. Needless to say like almost every piece of Nebula I have tried I loved it! I'd rank it as my new favorite bicep machine followed closely behind by the Hammer Strength plate load and Nautilus multi-biceps. If the plate load Nebula bicep is as good, then I need to track one down!

[TLYNCH777]

Has anyone purchased the TK Star OLD SCHOOL ROW HANDLE ATTACHMENT? If so, what are your thoughts?

Got ours yesterday one for our personal use & one for the gym. Tk started to mark & number each one now ...they are top quality and the best of its kind for that style attachment. I have cool photos of the production process that I will post soon with some other good news .
Here are the ones we just got ..

[coach_ras]

Still having to put the pieces back together in our gym following Goalders' delivery yesterday- will post more pics and add some notes on our initial impressions of each piece later this week- Thanks once again to TJ for all the help so we can add these awesome new additions to our facility!