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    Originally Posted by nolan3344 View Post
    You said the grip was better on the Legend High Row but what about the bio mechanics compared to the Hammer version? Also, have you compared the Legend and Hammer Iso Lateral Row? If the bio mechanics are the same on the Iso Lateral Row I don't see how the Hammer could be better than the Legend.
    Yes the High Rows are very similar in biomechanics from body placement to the angles and amount of divergence. The Leveredge just has more useable grip choices and is built a little beefier. I think the Leveredge has the additional chest pad adjustment as well......The mid rows are almost identical if I remember correctly. I am not a fan of that general design. I am privilaged to have demoed the Avenger row and want to get one of those anyway. You know what they say, "Once you go Avenger...".
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    Originally Posted by ndmike99 View Post
    So if loading the lower horns is like using chains what is loading the upper horns like?


    That is a good question. I'll have to look at the angle of the top horns... brb.

    As I thought, and makes sense to what I was told previously: If you load the top and bottom evenly, it will be the same as a barbell squat: There is no strength curve, just linear. If you look at the angle of the top vs bottom, they are curved about 25 degrees in opposite directions. So evenly loading both top and bottom will cancel out the curves.

    If you load the top only, it will be heaviest at the bottom and get easier as you stand up. Technically, it is probably better to evenly load the 4 horns at first (45's on all 4 horns as base weight), and then begin to load the bottom horns from that point forward. Loading the bottom horns is what most leg presses do, or at least are supposed to do: Just like the Pendulum Hip Press, Atlantis Pivot press... the weight increases towards the end of the movement. A linear leg press obviously has no curve. The Avenger Leg Press would be like taking the Power Squat Pro and only using the top horns only... which is why they should put some band pegs on the Avenger Leg press. If the Avenger Leg press has a weakness, it would be the Strength curve--definitely need band pegs on the Avenger leg press--Tyler Hobson is correct about that Avenger Leg press, the Strength curve is technically opposite of what it should be... at the very least, bang pegs would help make it more linear my adding more resistance towards the end.

    In other words, I don;t know what benefit it would have to load only the top weight horns other than variety and to work your glutes more than your quads... that is the main difference, working glutes more than quads. You will use more glute to push the heavier weight at the bottom.
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    I got To use a nautilus power plus chest press today and looks can be deceiving . What a great piece It had good adjustability to get a really good stretch as well as the choice to fuse or isolate the arms. Fantastic feel really islolated the chest and was easy on the sholders.

    In addition I used the power plus leg extension . I will say that it was one of the very best leg extensions I have ever used. Consistent throught the range of motion smooth as can be with no pain in the knee joint.

    I am looking forward In the next several weeks I will be demoing all the medx selectorize pieces .

    My wife also recived 20 t- grip barbell group fitness bars She will be launching an ass kicking class at the gym we work at fitness incentive. I also recommend to pick up there flat Handel triceps bar . I have been enjoying using it for overhead extensions and push outs . Tim really did a great job on that simple but very effective bar.
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    Tim is supposed to have a video out soon with those cable attachments.

    I still need to get one of those and the tricep attachment. I'll have to call him again soon.
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    Originally Posted by TLYNCH777 View Post
    I got To use a nautilus power plus chest press today and looks can be deceiving . What a great piec. It had good adjustability to get a really good stretch as well as the choise to fuse or isolate the arms. Fantastic feel really islolated the chest and was easy on the sholders.

    In addition I used the power plus leg extension . I will say that it was one of the very best leg extensions I have ever used. Consistent throught the range of motion smooth as can be with no pain in the knee joint.

    I am looking forward In the next several weeks I will be demoing all the medx selectorize pieces .
    They are not pretty, but it is amazing just how many good pieces came out of that one line of equipment. Some of those pieces deserve mention for "best of the best" caliber even among today's equipment.......I will be demoing the Medx machines next Tuesday. It will be interesting to see just how close our opinions will match up.
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    Admitedly, Technogym sucks, but I actually find that their old low pulley is pretty good, since it combines the regular low pulley and an incline pulley in one device. Of course, the weightstack should be heavier though. I've searched around a little for a similar machine with these feautures. But having cheched out precor, cybex, Magnum, Lifefitness, watson, star trac, and even Atlantis, I haven't find any manufacturer who combines the incline with the low row as satisfactory as technogym does, that is if Atlantis incline doesn't offer the same thing. Is anyone aware of a company that combines these features except from technogym?
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    I would just purchase separate items. Do you have a picture of this (hate to say the name) piece?

    If you have a picture, it is possible to have a company like REFLEX FITNESS make you exactly what you want, and with any weight stack you like. Would like to see a picture or more info (name of this machine) so I can google what you are talking about
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    misterusatofitness.net/product/2501/Pulley-Technogym-usato.html

    Here's a picture of it
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    Originally Posted by Renzinho View Post
    misterusatofitness.net/product/2501/Pulley-Technogym-usato.html

    Here's a picture of it
    What do You think about Watson's Animal Dual Stack Low Pulley - it have good regulation of high-low row and it is iso lateral
    movement but have no high pads for foot like Technogym.
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    I know some of you guys like modifications so here are a few I made on my older model Pendulum Squat.

    1. I did not like the lower starting point, so I had someone weld up an attachment that would allow me to start the movement from a higher point. This makes positioning for the movement a lot easier for me:



    2. Since I have been playing around with the machine I have found that it is great for shrugs and recently also discovered it is a great Viking Press. I can actually use different handles in the end of it and have a friend that can fabricate different handles. This should add a lot of versatility to the unit for me.

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    I'd love a set of these Rae Crowther Plyo boxes

    http://www.raecrowther.com/plyos.shtml

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    Originally Posted by ndmike99 View Post
    I know some of you guys like modifications so here are a few I made on my older model Pendulum Squat.

    1. I did not like the lower starting point, so I had someone weld up an attachment that would allow me to start the movement from a higher point. This makes positioning for the movement a lot easier for me

    The new model has two settings, basically the original, and a higher setting (which I use). I guess that must have been an issue that has been adressed since then. There is a black Landing that can be flipped in or out of position to allow for the high or lower start point.


    2. Since I have been playing around with the machine I have found that it is great for shrugs and recently also discovered it is a great Viking Press. I can actually use different handles in the end of it and have a friend that can fabricate different handles. This should add a lot of versatility to the unit for me.
    That sounds cool. I would like to see more pics of those mods... and how they work in action.
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    Just got a message that my Inverse Leg Curl (custom pro unit without the weight storage) is finished. Talked to Dave goalder today about that and his schedule.

    Looks like Dave is in Chicago area tomorrow. He was going to pick up the Donkey Calf and dumbbell spotters tomorrow but seems like Bryce is busy so he is going to pick it up in a couple of weeks on the way to California.

    Apparently Dave is swinging down to Florida sometime in the next couple weeks (I guess to pick up the Avenger Leg Presses). He is going to start heading cross country towards the west coast again the 3rd week of January and head to Washington around the 3rd/4th week in January, and then Swing down to Northern california, and then to Southern california. Anyway, I am expecting to see him at the end of this month. I'm hoping the Atlantis pieces arrive before he arrives so I can make one last big move of equipment, and finish this project for a little while. I think when this last round is finished, I'll be at the point where maybe an individual machine moves in or out only occasionally.
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    Got a picture of the Donkey Calf in its final stages. I'm extremely happy with the result. The adjustable forearm pad is the icing on the cake.


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    Originally Posted by ndmike99 View Post
    I know some of you guys like modifications so here are a few I made on my older model Pendulum Squat.

    1. I did not like the lower starting point, so I had someone weld up an attachment that would allow me to start the movement from a higher point. This makes positioning for the movement a lot easier for me:



    2. Since I have been playing around with the machine I have found that it is great for shrugs and recently also discovered it is a great Viking Press. I can actually use different handles in the end of it and have a friend that can fabricate different handles. This should add a lot of versatility to the unit for me.

    Awesome !!
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    Originally Posted by HealthNutMD View Post
    Got a picture of the Donkey Calf in its final stages. I'm extremely happy with the result. The adjustable forearm pad is the icing on the cake.


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    Chris thats a Beast !!!
    Would second that, as well as say it looks well thought out and constructed. A far cry from my undergrad days at the college gym 30 years ago, when we used to take turns sitting on each others backs, and using multiple 2x10s to stand on.(please, no remarks)
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    Nebula Leg press foot plate modification

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    Just completed a modification on my Nebula Leg press machine. I like everything about the machine, except I could never get used to the angled two piece foot plate. When I placed my feet up high, my lower back would always curl up off of the seat pad. When I placed my feet on the lower portion of the plate, it would just chew up both of my knees. It always felt the best, with my feet right in the middle of the plate, but then my foot was not flat on the plate.
    So I decide to show my problem to a buddy of mine who owns a local welding shop. He made me a bolt-on flat foot plate which is made out of aluminum deck plate (just like the original foot plate). He made a box, complete with heavy duty supports inside. He guaranteed me that it will support over 2,000 pounds. What is really neat, is that it bolted on right through the original carriage frame holes. Therefore I can take it off at anytime and put the original bent foot plate back on. NO welding at all, plus no repainting etc. Looks great too, just like factory. The best part --- both me and my boys love the new feel of the press. The total added weight to the carriage was only about 20 pounds. It didn't come cheap, but was well worth the money. I am attaching some pictures. Thanks for looking. Flexhead222. ( up in Michigan )
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    Originally Posted by mensagitatmolem View Post
    we used to take turns sitting on each others backs, and using multiple 2x10s to stand on.
    I'm trying to picture that:













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    Who makes that bench? It would make a nice addition to do some free weight forearm stuff. I feel like a little kid sitting down under a bench to do some wrist curls / extensions with the dog in my face thinking its time for attention.
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    Ha. Thanks for the pics. Going in the way back machine there. Andreas Cahling?
    He Has been around for decades. Is in pretty good shape today. He ended up getting a face tumor but kept on pushing forward.
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    Originally Posted by OutKlast View Post
    Who makes that bench? It would make a nice addition to do some free weight forearm stuff. I feel like a little kid sitting down under a bench to do some wrist curls / extensions with the dog in my face thinking its time for attention.
    That bench is from Maxicam in California. Also called muscle dynamics.
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    [QUOTE=HealthNutMD;1005992013]Got a picture of the Donkey Calf in its final stages. I'm extremely happy with the result. The adjustable forearm pad is the icing on the cake.

    That looks awesome
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    Originally Posted by qaz123 View Post
    That bench is from Maxicam in California. Also called muscle dynamics.
    Dang, lots of adjustments on the flat to incline bench on their website. At least 24 adjustments.



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    Obviously this thread is pretty big and I haven't read thru much, but can anyone who's been following this thread pretty closely recommend me some new brands to check out?

    I've only ever dealt with and bought from Rogue and sorinex. They've both been great btw... Just looking to check out some other stuff
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    Originally Posted by XPmpnII View Post
    Obviously this thread is pretty big and I haven't read thru much, but can anyone who's been following this thread pretty closely recommend me some new brands to check out?

    I've only ever dealt with and bought from Rogue and sorinex. They've both been great btw... Just looking to check out some other stuff
    is there something specific you're looking for? a specific make and model will likely be recommended over general brands.
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    Originally Posted by ninjaneer View Post
    is there something specific you're looking for? a specific make and model will likely be recommended over general brands.
    Well, I think at the moment I'm really looking for a decline or an ab bench/board... Whatever you wanna call it. Just something strictly for abs

    I will say that I'm trying to keep the wife in mind. It'll be something I'll use too, but she was really wanting something that would hit her abs really good.

    She had also mentioned to me that she was wanting to work her inner thighs... Like a hip abductor?

    I think she mainly wants to target her legs and abs... Mainly abs tho since she's not feeling so great about her stomach after having a baby. I wanna help her out
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    Where'd you find the picture of the smokeshows? Too much want.
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    Originally Posted by XPmpnII View Post
    Well, I think at the moment I'm really looking for a decline or an ab bench/board... Whatever you wanna call it. Just something strictly for abs
    Atlantis Strentgh Adjustable Ab Bench is excellent (on the cost no object list)
    Rae Crowthers (Nebula) Multi Ab Bench (wil be on the next cost no object update).
    Strength Inc inverted ab (on the cost no object list)

    These are all shown in this thread. If I had to pick one, I think the Multi Ab Bench from Nebula (Rae Crowther) should be the one to get. I have one on order. Just go back a couple weeks in this thread.


    She had also mentioned to me that she was wanting to work her inner thighs...
    Strive Selectorized Abd/Add combo is the best ADD/ABD on the market IMO. Full 180 degree split, Adequate weigth stack (pulley physics), small footprint, adjustable strength curve... A+ and best unit for that made IMO.

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    Originally Posted by XPmpnII View Post
    Mainly abs tho since she's not feeling so great about her stomach after having a baby. I wanna help her out
    Is she wanting to build ab muscles or lose stomach fat?
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