"best" legal hormone for bulking

[liljojo4711]

just like the title says. i want to start a bulk for the winter and cut after christmas. what is the best hormone product out right now that is working for most people? i did a stack of 1AD and 6-OXO before the prohormone ban and wanted to try something that is legal today. i had great gains with that stack, but im not expecting the same results with what is legal now. i would like to do maybe a 6 week cycle with pct afterward and then cut back down. im thinking maybe 10-15lb increase hopefully. any ideas let me know.

[liljojo4711]

nobody.....

[smt1]

Look on http://tunedsports.com. However, keep in mind a few of the PH/DS mentioned over there have been banned since the publish date (eg, bold200, phera, x-tren, etc)

[EVO-PT]

Steak-oxo and milkdrol

[lunapt]

ebols mayne

[SilentEcho13]

No not really, I was considering some stuff from Primordial Performance in the future, from what I'm reading their Turinabol LV/Hdrol clone is good.

[Opies]

dymeth or sdrol -.-

[zackmorris]

Steak-oxo and milkdrol

Hahaha

[liljojo4711]

im thinking abotu h-drol or pmag... any thoughts?

[abunce]

if you are looking to start your first cycle hdrol would be a good option. If this is early in your bodybuilding career it would be a good idea to gain as much as you can naturally and work on your work out program and diet before moving to ph/ds/aas.

If your dead set on using a PH do understand that you are using a steroid and it should be treated as such. make sure to do you research and plan properly.

[TomMutaffis]

Good advice:

if you are looking to start your first cycle hdrol would be a good option. If this is early in your bodybuilding career it would be a good idea to gain as much as you can naturally and work on your work out program and diet before moving to ph/ds/aas.

If your dead set on using a PH do understand that you are using a steroid and it should be treated as such. make sure to do you research and plan properly.

[sneekz]

im thinking abotu h-drol or pmag... any thoughts?

ive read that theyre very similar products, but p-mag is slightly better for bulking. I'd go with p-mag since that's what you're looking for.

[mikehoncho22]

Bulking i would run p-mag. I ran it on a bulk and had good strengh and size increase

[liljojo4711]

best place to get p-mag? what do yall think for pct, nolva/clomid at the same time?

[abunce]

best place to get p-mag? what do yall think for pct, nolva/clomid at the same time?

not sure where to get pmag, google it. IM sure youll see a bunch of places.

Best way to get the answers your looking for here is to do your research, tunedsports practically spells it out for you. Then post up your cycle and ask for a critique.

Make sure you have your bases covered and make sure you have pct on hand before you start.

[rhadam]

Steak-oxo and milkdrol

This.

[bigpoppaapp]

trifecta stack looks good. comes with everyone for a 6 week cycle. or ams hormonal stack. i want to try either one of those out.

[abunce]

trifecta stack looks good. comes with everyone for a 6 week cycle.

im assuming you meant "everything" not "everyone".

fail for thinking thats everything you need.

[theculture]

im doing bioforge promax and ebol stack, 8 weeks (2bottles of each), log in sig.

Bulking. 3500-4000 cals a day most days. Few days its only 3000. Keep in mind Ebol is a supp where you must know what you are doing, its an adaptogen and you have to change up your routine and shock your body. Blueprint program is meant to be used with adaptogen (but doesnt have to be) which is why I'm doing it.

I want to cross the line into PH territory but the risks involved and what it can do to your system and liver isnt very attractive.

edit: for adding tons of weight you want tons of food. like I am doing

[liljojo4711]

im gonna stick with a "beginner" test booster before i try anything advanced. i think im gonna try p-mag for 6 weeks and see what that does. probably get about 3000 cals to start and go up from there. any advice as far as nolva/clomid and pct?

[Diablomeister]

nolva for pct 20/20/10/10

Really, I would try out some natually things before you decide you want to cross into the fun side.

I would give BF ProMax a try, or even BFv1, they are both proven and work.

[liljojo4711]

are the 2 u posted "natural". do u need pct for those?

[Junkie2]

Steak-oxo and milkdrol

my fav was steakadrol

[TomMutaffis]

im gonna stick with a "beginner" test booster before i try anything advanced. i think im gonna try p-mag for 6 weeks and see what that does. probably get about 3000 cals to start and go up from there. any advice as far as nolva/clomid and pct?

Make sure that you are not confusing 'test boosters' with PH/DS products.

nolva for pct 20/20/10/10.

I would suggest looking at other options.

are the 2 u posted "natural". do u need pct for those?

BioForge does not require PCT.

[TomMutaffis]

Just to add to this thread, at 5'8 and 185 lbs it sounds like you are just looking for shortcuts.

You should be able to add at least 10-15 lbs simply by changing up your diet and training, and without those things in place you can take all of the Test Boosters, PH's, and Steroids that you want and probably never realize your goals (definitely never have a sustainable physique).

Add in meals before bed, increase your protein intake, consume calorie dense foods (natural peanut butter, lean red meat, etc.) and I guarantee that you will grow. Couple that with a solid training program like 5x5, HCT-12, etc. and you'll be all set.

Don't look to supplements to replace hard work or discipline.

[liljojo4711]

i know i can add muscle and size without supplements. i have cut for about 3 months and lost 18lbs to get down to 12% bf, now im ready to bulk back up once again. i really never update my stats on here lol. i know i need to add food and lift heavy to get big, done it multiple times. thats y im looking to switch it up this time and see what some of these products are all about.

[xR1pp3Rx]

well its of my oppinion its about the age of 25 were you will realise good gains and youve probably settled down enough you wont wanna go drinking on the weekends and hopefully you have a decent job to provide yourself with bountiful food and supplements. since you have done 1ad and 60xo and you realise you should get a serm to complete your cycle i would look to M-LMG stacked with D-plex. will give good strength and size plus fairly easily maintained. you should be able to keep an easy 10 if you do the cycle correct.

[zack_1989]

i know i can add muscle and size without supplements. i have cut for about 3 months and lost 18lbs to get down to 12% bf, now im ready to bulk back up once again. i really never update my stats on here lol. i know i need to add food and lift heavy to get big, done it multiple times. thats y im looking to switch it up this time and see what some of these products are all about.

I just picked up that Trifecta stack and I'm going to run that with a few other things as well and see how it goes.

[scar12ml]

I just picked up that Trifecta stack and I'm going to run that with a few other things as well and see how it goes.

Log how your stack goes, im interested in that stack

[CalebRM]

Steak-oxo and milkdrol

I've heard good things.