What's the Paleo diet?

[MoonWalker0]

hey guys, can anyone fill me in on the principles of this?

i've heard it mentioned over and over.

thanks

[hrdgain3r89]

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[determined4000]

Dont eat
Dairy Foods

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All processed foods made with any dairy products
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Butter
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Cheese
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Cream
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Dairy spreads
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Frozen yogurt
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Ice cream
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Ice milk
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Low-fat milk
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Nonfat dairy creamer
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Powdered milk
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Skim milk
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Whole milk
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Yogurt



Cereal Grains

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Barley (barley soup, barley bread, and all processed foods made with barley)
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Corn (corn on the cob, corn tortillas, corn chips, corn starch, corn syrup)
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Millet
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Oats (steel-cut oats, rolled oats, and all processed foods made with oats)
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Rice (brown rice, white rice, top ramen, rice noodles, bas mati rice, rice cakes, Rice flour (all processed foods made with rice)
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Rye (rye bread, rye crackers, and all processed foods made with rye)
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Sorghum
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Wheat (bread, rolls, muffins, noodles, crackers, cookies, cake, doughnuts, pancakes, waffles, pasta, spaghetti, lasagna, wheat tortillas, pizza, pita bread, flat bread, and all processed foods made with wheat or wheat flour)
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Wild rice



Cereal Grainlike Seeds

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Amaranth
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Buckwheat
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Quinoa



Legumes

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All beans (adzuki beans, black beans, broad beans, fava beans, field beans, garbanzo beans, horse beans, kidney beans, lima beans, mung beans, navy beans, pinto beans, red beans, string beans, white beans)
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Black-eyed peas
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Chickpeas
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Lentils
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Peas
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Miso
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Peanut butter
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Peanuts
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Snowpeas
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Sugar snap peas
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Soybeans and all soybean products, including tofu



Starchy Vegetables

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Starchy tubers
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Cassava root
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Manioc
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Potatoes and all potato products (French fries, potato chips, etc.)
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Sweet potatoes
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Tapioca pudding
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Yams



Salt-Containing Foods

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Almost all commercial salad dressings and condiments
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Bacon
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Cheese
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Deli meats
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Frankfurters
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Ham
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Hot dogs
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Ketchup
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Olives
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Pickled foods
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Pork rinds
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Processed meats
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Salami
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Salted nuts
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Salted spices
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Sausages
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Smoked, dried, and salted fish and meat
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Virtually all canned meats and fish (unless they are unsalted or unless you soak and drain them)



Fatty Meats

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Bacon
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Beef ribs
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Chicken and turkey legs
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Chicken and turkey skin
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Chicken and turkey thighs and wings•
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Fatty beef roasts
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Fatty cuts of beef
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Fatty ground beef
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Fatty pork chops
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Fatty pork roasts
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Lamb chops
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Lamb roasts
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Leg of lamb
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Pork ribs
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Pork sausage
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T—bone steaks

[determined4000]

you can eat



Other meats

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Rabbit meat (any cut)
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Goat meat (any cut)



Organ meats

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Beef, lamb, pork, and chicken livers
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Beef, pork, and lamb tongues
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Beef, lamb, and pork marrow
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Beef, lamb, and pork “sweetbreads”



Game meat

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Alligator
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Bear
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Bison (buffalo)
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Caribou
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Elk
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Emu
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Goose
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Kangaroo
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Muscovy duck
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New Zealand cervena deer
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Ostrich
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Pheasant
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Quail
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Rattlesnake
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Reindeer
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Squab
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Turtle
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Venison
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Wild boar
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Wild turkey

[kusok]

don't.

[MajorTwang]

The Paleo diet works on the principle that we evolved to eat a diet based on lean meat & fish, berries, fruit, vegetables, nuts & seeds, so it makes sense to base your diet on those. Grain & dairy are fairly recent additions to the human diet, which explains why so many people are allergic / intolerant.

This far, the Paleo diet seems perfectly reasonable. It's bad rep comes from people taking it to the usual stupid extremes & going on about how you should only eat freshly strangled caribou, and not brush your teeth because our ancestors managed with a bit of twig.

Also, the diet gets bashed by Creationists, who think that stories about talking snakes are more descriptive ot the real-world than proper science.

The principle does have a couple of glaring flaws in it though

1) Humans are fundamentally omnivorous, geared up to run quite happily on a very wide range of diets. The long list of restrictions on the Paleo diet ignores the basic point that humans will thrive eating virtually anything with calorific value that fulfills our minimum nutrient needs.

2) Humans have evolved since hunter gatherer times. Most North-Europeans have a mutation which allows lactase production to continue past childhood - a mutation absent in most other populations. This is the reason why most people with N Euro ancestry can happily drink lots of milk, and most of the people from other parts of the world can't - we have adapted to a social change a couple of thousand years ago where we started consuming milk. Same with grains - for the past few thousand years, grain was all that most poor people had to eat, and the ones who couldn't cope with that would have died, leaving only those okay with grains to pass on their genetics.

3) People tend to adapt to whatever diet they regularly eat. If you eat huge amounts of protein, your body gets good at burning protein as fuel, whilst if you are on a very low protein diet, you get very good at protein conservation. Low carbs make your body switch to ketosis, and low fats cause your to shut down your fat-oxidation metabolism.

Paleo diet is great if you just apply the broad principles - which is that our bodies generally run best on a hunter-gatherer style diet. When you start avoiding milk in your tea & swapping your whey protein for a handfull of mealworms - it's time to get some perspective.

[ParsleyTea]

Professor Cordain, author of The Paleo Diet, has a nice blog worth checking out. The sight gives good details about the diet.

http://thepaleodiet.blogspot.com/

Kind of humorously saw on Dr Eades sight that large Dutch/English food manufacturer Unilever is studying the Paleo Diet. They might be coming out with a paleo food line, it looks like. As Dr Eades wrote:

Paleo processed foods may be coming to a store near you soon
http://twitter.com/DrEades

[miketheblade]

The Paleo diet works on the principle that we evolved to eat a diet based on lean meat & fish, berries, fruit, vegetables, nuts & seeds, so it makes sense to base your diet on those. Grain & dairy are fairly recent additions to the human diet, which explains why so many people are allergic / intolerant.

This far, the Paleo diet seems perfectly reasonable. It's bad rep comes from people taking it to the usual stupid extremes & going on about how you should only eat freshly strangled caribou, and not brush your teeth because our ancestors managed with a bit of twig.

Also, the diet gets bashed by Creationists, who think that stories about talking snakes are more descriptive ot the real-world than proper science.

The principle does have a couple of glaring flaws in it though

1) Humans are fundamentally omnivorous, geared up to run quite happily on a very wide range of diets. The long list of restrictions on the Paleo diet ignores the basic point that humans will thrive eating virtually anything with calorific value that fulfills our minimum nutrient needs.

2) Humans have evolved since hunter gatherer times. Most North-Europeans have a mutation which allows lactase production to continue past childhood - a mutation absent in most other populations. This is the reason why most people with N Euro ancestry can happily drink lots of milk, and most of the people from other parts of the world can't - we have adapted to a social change a couple of thousand years ago where we started consuming milk. Same with grains - for the past few thousand years, grain was all that most poor people had to eat, and the ones who couldn't cope with that would have died, leaving only those okay with grains to pass on their genetics.

3) People tend to adapt to whatever diet they regularly eat. If you eat huge amounts of protein, your body gets good at burning protein as fuel, whilst if you are on a very low protein diet, you get very good at protein conservation. Low carbs make your body switch to ketosis, and low fats cause your to shut down your fat-oxidation metabolism.

Paleo diet is great if you just apply the broad principles - which is that our bodies generally run best on a hunter-gatherer style diet. When you start avoiding milk in your tea & swapping your whey protein for a handfull of mealworms - it's time to get some perspective.

[AlwaysTryin]

Epic bump. 2 years too late dude

[mrtimz]

Simplified :

Eat whatever our paleolithic ancestors ate 10,000 years ago.

[snorkelman]

Simplified :

Eat whatever our paleolithic ancestors ate 10,000 years ago, while making significant assumptions as to what food was available 10,000 years ago.

fixed

[mrtimz]

fixed

Are you retarded or just ignorant. Either case you sound stupid.

[dimmupelto]

Are you retarded or just ignorant. Either case you sound stupid.

Says the red troll. You got him man... You got him... I'm sure he's looking at your post right now like wtf have I done with my life?!?!

[WonderPug]

The Paleo diet...

OT: I miss Major Twang!!!

[SuffolkPunch]

OT: I miss Major Twang!!!

^This

[snorkelman]

I aim to please

[texicus]

OP the paleo diet attempts to re-create the food intake of our evolutionary ancestors. After taking several evolutionary biology classes in college I can assure you that:

- our evolutionary ancestors did not exhibit significant sarcoplasmic hypertrophy beyond what occurred through natural growth
- the only time our evolutionary ancestors were remotely "aesthetic" by modern terms was during a period of prolonged starvation
- one of our primary evolutionary ancestors, the species of the australopithecus genus (died out ~2MYA), had a largely plant and fruit based diet
- the composition of our ancestors' diets 2 MYA, 500 KYA, 250 KYA or even 10,000 KYA are not "optimal" for any means for general health or muscle growth
- most of our ancestors who followed the "paleo diet" which is actually arbitrary elimination of foods (b/c we will never know 100% what we used to eat 500,000 years ago besides what strontium/calcium ratios, vitamin A presence in fossils, etc which isn't too informative) had a significantly shorter lifespan than you or I will have

edit: shiet just realized this was a 2010 bump.

[RAleXx]

OP the paleo diet attempts to re-create the food intake of our evolutionary ancestors. After taking several evolutionary biology classes in college I can assure you that:

- our evolutionary ancestors did not exhibit significant sarcoplasmic hypertrophy beyond what occurred through natural growth
- the only time our evolutionary ancestors were remotely "aesthetic" by modern terms was during a period of prolonged starvation
- one of our primary evolutionary ancestors, the species of the australopithecus genus (died out ~2MYA), had a largely plant and fruit based diet
- the composition of our ancestors' diets 2 MYA, 500 KYA, 250 KYA or even 10,000 KYA are not "optimal" for any means for general health or muscle growth
- most of our ancestors who followed the "paleo diet" which is actually arbitrary elimination of foods (b/c we will never know 100% what we used to eat 500,000 years ago besides what strontium/calcium ratios, vitamin A presence in fossils, etc which isn't too informative) had a significantly shorter lifespan than you or I will have

edit: shiet just realized this was a 2010 bump.

Good stuff, this post made it worth being a 2010 bump.

[mrtimz]

Says the red troll. You got him man... You got him... I'm sure he's looking at your post right now like wtf have I done with my life?!?!

trolling hard with my 24 post.
You old timers need to get a ****ing life.

[skselan]

- the only time our evolutionary ancestors were remotely "aesthetic" by modern terms was during a period of prolonged starvation
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watched some history channel show when i was bored this week...talked about how most cavemen and neanderthals and even as far up to the greeks werent actually ripped like they are shown in movies, or even in greek sculpture...most back then had "beer" bellies and chub to hold onto fat when they couldnt eat...greeks/romans just made scupltures to what they wanted to look like, not what they actually looked like. Kinda ruined 300 for me...