Squats vs box squats

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 12:36 PM

Do box squats work your legs as efficiently as regular squats?

I've been doing regular squats but i'm considering doing box squats because i can lift more weight with them.

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

Do box squats work your legs as efficiently as regular squats?

I've been doing regular squats but i'm considering doing box squats because i can lift more weight with them.

How deep are you squatting? Box squatting?

How much weight?

I'll bet you aren't going as deep when using the box

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 12:52 PM

when i do regular squats i squat parallel, box squats just a little less than parallel

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

when i do regular squats i squat parallel, box squats just a little less than parallel

So you are considering switching to/emphasizing the box squats becasue you can move more weight if you don't go to parallel. I think that answers your question pretty well.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:07 PM

yeah i suck at squats, i can do 3x10 155lbs, thats about it, and by the third set im struggling around reps 7-10

**tjcliner** · 09-26-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

yeah i suck at squats, i can do 3x10 155lbs, thats about it, and by the third set im struggling around reps 7-10

drop the box!!!! no box needed

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

yeah i suck at squats, i can do 3x10 155lbs, thats about it, and by the third set im struggling around reps 7-10

You have no business switching to box squats.

A solid novice program with plenty of squatting, food and rest is what you need

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Farley1324

You have no business switching to box squats.

A solid novice program with plenty of squatting, food and rest is what you need

what should i follow then?

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

what should i follow then?

What are your goals?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118004321

**AryanRage** · 09-26-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

what should i follow then?

starting strength

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Farley1324

What are your goals?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118004321

im 5'9 180 lbs with 20-22 percent body fat

i'd like to get down to 10 percent or as close to as i can.

**Kirra** · 09-26-2010, 01:17 PM

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

Read that.

Dude, if you start losing weight now you will look like henmaniac87 aka a Holocaust victim.

Lift hard and eat clean.

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

im 5'9 180 lbs with 20-22 percent body fat

i'd like to get down to 10 percent or as close to as i can.

If your goal right now is to lose a lot of bodyfat and be scrawny don't expect a lot of strength increase during that time.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:38 PM

if i wanna lift big and get lean what kind of diet plan should i be following? should i cut or bulk?

i have a lot of body fat so idk about bulking

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

if i wanna lift big and get lean what kind of diet plan should i be following? should i cut or bulk?

i have a lot of body fat so idk about bulking

If you want to get big and strong you want to bulk.

If you want to get thin you want to cut.

Generally unless you are fairly overweight/fat it is a better idea to work on developing a strength/muscle base before cutting down so that there is something there worth seeing.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:54 PM

in your opinion should i cut or bulk then

here's me at 180 lbs

mostly fat obviously

i got moobs

if i do bulk i should eat 500 cals above maintenance correct?

sorry for the big pictures

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 01:57 PM

It is up to you. If you stick with this and are concerned with aesthetics you will probably end up doing both, multiple times.

I would probably eat at maintenance or ever so slightly above (say 1/4-1/2 pound gain a week) with plenty of protein.

**sushi362** · 09-26-2010, 01:57 PM

500 calories over maintainence is stupid.

if you are gaining 1lb a week and are not a raw beginner, you are just getting fat.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 01:59 PM

someone point me in the right direction then please this is so confusing!!!!!

basically i wanna look brolic and be swole and strong as hell

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

yeah i suck at squats, i can do 3x10 155lbs, thats about it, and by the third set im struggling around reps 7-10

Originally Posted by sushi362

500 calories over maintainence is stupid.

if you are gaining 1lb a week and are not a raw beginner, you are just getting fat.

Say what?

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 02:11 PM

yeah im not raw

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

yeah im not raw

With a 155 lbs 3x10 squat? What are you, rare?

You are a novice. If you want to get big and strong then eating 500 cals over maintenence per day may be a good idea

**SumDumGoi** · 09-26-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Farley1324

You have no business switching to box squats.

A solid novice program with plenty of squatting, food and rest is what you need

Why can't a beginner use box squats? Box squats are a good way to teach hip drive during the squat and allow someone to feel more comfortable with the squat as they are learning proper mechanics.

As for the OP, why not include both? Either way, there are certainly bigger things to worry about that will affect your progress more than whether or not to squat using a box. Whatever you decide to do, progression should be your main focus.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 02:18 PM

I should just ditch my current workout and do mark rippetoe's starting strength and eat at maintenance or a little bit above?

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

I should just ditch my current workout and do mark rippetoe's starting strength and eat at maintenance or a little bit above?

What is your current routine?

Is strength/performance your primary goal?

If you do SS you will want to eat over maintenence.

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Farley1324

What is your current routine?

Is strength/performance your primary goal?

If you do SS you will want to eat over maintenence.

6 days on 2 days off

day 1 chest/triceps
day 2 back/biceps
day 3 legs/shoulders

repeat

**raidersreceiver** · 09-26-2010, 02:23 PM

if i wanted to do cardio on days off from SS i would want to eat even more to not burn any muscle correct?

**Kirra** · 09-26-2010, 02:35 PM

Just eat slightly over maintenance and do SS. Come back in 3-4 months.

**Farley1324** · 09-26-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by raidersreceiver

6 days on 2 days off

day 1 chest/triceps
day 2 back/biceps
day 3 legs/shoulders

repeat

Since you posted a split and called it a routine/workout I am going to say, yes, do SS instead.

**blkbelt42** · 09-26-2010, 02:36 PM

you want to switch to box because you can't go heavy
doing them normally?

wut?

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