Why do black guys in the gym grow so much quicker than white guys?

[SW1FT]

If I'm honest I hate this mentality

I get the you must be juicing and the black genetics comments too often

All I did was push myself in the gym and try and eat right no extra factor just hard work!!!!!

OJ did it, and yes black guys jump higher, put on musce faster, and do outrun the cops at a succesfully higher rate than white males.

[IkeFord]

See idk if this dude is being sarcastic or not because I've heard more than a few people make this argument. What is so funny about it is how relatively new it is. Up until the late 40s, early 50s blacks were thought to be athletically inferior to white athletes, just couldn't complete with them. Then almost overnight the rationale that slavery and breeding has produced a legion of unstoppable super athletes became the status quo. It's really quite ridiculous.

I'm being serious and straight up.

[blkbelt42]

I dont want to add fuel to this fire or appear racist (or reverse racist ) , but this thread raises some additional questions and comments for me

If black guys seem to grow so much quicker, would the same be true for black women? ( I do see a lot more overweight black women than I see overweight whites, asians, indians, etc)

My time spent in the caribbean, I have seen a lot less obesity and well muscled black people in general. Those people spend almost no time in the gym. In less developed white and asian nations does anyone see well developed whites or asian in those nations walking the streets?


In Pontiac, Michigan there are several homeless cuacasian "dumpster divers" that have almost no bodyfat and have that ripped look (as much of a ripped look they can have without going to gym). Does their lifestyle of constant movement in looking for food and other opportunities help them in looking this way?

In the Jiu Jitsu classes that i have taken, there are always more ripped caucasians in the class. The same with the H.S. wrestling classes where a good friend of mine is the coach.

Another observation is I see a lot more fat black people than other races, so in additon to the ability to put on muscle, are blacks also more prone to put on fat at a faster rate?

I dont know if i have contributed to this thread. These are just some of my rambling observations.

strong silence for the last 3+ years

[henmaniac87]

Lol. That's a broad generalization if Ive ever seen one!

[F1eld]

im going to say the OP is making a bit of a generalization but i would think it all stems from the fact that black people came from/spent the majority of thier time in Africa where they were having to run around wrestling with lions and stuff combined with getting tons of vitamin D from excessive sun exposure. thats just my educated guess.

[bwoh]

1 thing i might add is 1 side of my family is creole/black and all guys are extremely athletic and shredded without taking supps or going to gym.

I envy them so much. i bust my ass and still not satisfied

[Teenytinyboo]

In slavery days the strongest men were choosen to breed. NO RACIST.

How is mentioning that racist? That's exactly what happend, they were treated like farm animals and were worth serious $$, the bigger and stronger the slave the larger the value, and that's with 400 years selective breeding, some popular domestic farm animals breeds were created in quarter of the time.

[madeira17]

First of all this post is hilarious to me but let me point out some reasons to you guys what is going on here. First and foremost it comes down to muscle fiber and let me explain a little without going to much into it. West African descendants such as nigerians,jamaicans etc. have more fast twitch fiber hence they get bigger and faster more efficiently, these are the guys dunking and running fast. East africans such as kenyans,sudan etc. have slow twitch fiber and they are naturally really skinny and those are the dudes winning marathons. Eastern european decendants are usually really strong and big boned people think russians or polish or lithuanians. These guys are usually winning the worlds strongest man contests and putting up the world records for biggest squat,bench and deadlift(fact). So considering the country we live in being a melting pot of cultures you are either one of those three or a mixture of it. White people are usually going to be the strongest,black people are usually going to be the fastest and I have no way of knowing this but I think that will be the case for another 100 years until evolution changes or something. Asians are somewhere in the middle of all this, never the fastest or the strongest probably a little bit of both evenly. The people bringing up slavery and being treated unfairly I do somewhat agree with your reasoning but I think it comes down to my point more. Honestly check around you it is obvious.

[fat_narcissus]

i think thats thats why a lot of guys from the south come out bigger and stronger than the average american. after slavery was abolished, the white folk had do their own work or hire it done, and guys back then wanted wives with wide bearing hips and all in order to have lots of big, strong kids to do farm work, then those kids had kids, and so on. This mentality was still used up until probably the fifites and sixties, depending on the parts of the south where families still had farms/cotton patches/etc.

[Sir_Malak]

These days and in the future your ethnicity will matter less and lesser.

[59QUiCE]

it all boils down to this
who was the baddest man on the planet?
mike tyson

[sixthman6]

See idk if this dude is being sarcastic or not because I've heard more than a few people make this argument. What is so funny about it is how relatively new it is. Up until the late 40s, early 50s blacks were thought to be athletically inferior to white athletes, just couldn't complete with them. Then almost overnight the rationale that slavery and breeding has produced a legion of unstoppable super athletes became the status quo. It's really quite ridiculous.

You have to take into consideration that as blacks became more and more "accepted" it increased their opportunity, not only to play certain sports, but also get the best training and equipment for those sports. Just having the "body type" for a sport doesnt mean you'll be good at it, especially if you're not getting the best coaching and training for that sport. That's why at first they were seen as inferior. They didnt have as much opportunity and the resources to polish their skills. Once those opportunities opened up they were able to train better and maximize their potential at certain sports.

First of all this post is hilarious to me but let me point out some reasons to you guys what is going on here. First and foremost it comes down to muscle fiber and let me explain a little without going to much into it. West African descendants such as nigerians,jamaicans etc. have more fast twitch fiber hence they get bigger and faster more efficiently, these are the guys dunking and running fast. East africans such as kenyans,sudan etc. have slow twitch fiber and they are naturally really skinny and those are the dudes winning marathons. Eastern european decendants are usually really strong and big boned people think russians or polish or lithuanians. These guys are usually winning the worlds strongest man contests and putting up the world records for biggest squat,bench and deadlift(fact). So considering the country we live in being a melting pot of cultures you are either one of those three or a mixture of it. White people are usually going to be the strongest,black people are usually going to be the fastest and I have no way of knowing this but I think that will be the case for another 100 years until evolution changes or something. Asians are somewhere in the middle of all this, never the fastest or the strongest probably a little bit of both evenly. The people bringing up slavery and being treated unfairly I do somewhat agree with your reasoning but I think it comes down to my point more. Honestly check around you it is obvious.

The point people are making about slavery and your post are the exact same thing. Peopl'e muscle fiber distribution doesn't magically depend on the area they're born. It came from survival of the fittest. Whatver body type is better fit to survive in the conditions of that area is the body type that most will have. During slavery those that were better able to handle touch physical labor were more likely to survive, especially if they were better taken care of.

Same thing.

[BrotherWolf]

See idk if this dude is being sarcastic or not because I've heard more than a few people make this argument. What is so funny about it is how relatively new it is. Up until the late 40s, early 50s blacks were thought to be athletically inferior to white athletes, just couldn't complete with them. Then almost overnight the rationale that slavery and breeding has produced a legion of unstoppable super athletes became the status quo. It's really quite ridiculous.

The slavery theory is retarded.. but since most black people can trace their roots to a few tribes and not the whole African continent , the theory of the tribal lifestyle is probably correct regarding genetics..
bodies adapt to the environment, possibly the slaves that where shipped to europe and the americas where coming from strong tribes, yet individually they might have been weak , famine , tribal conflicts etc..
once the conditions where optimal the genetics came out in the later generations. Not all Africans are big and strong, there are small people tribes, skinny people, tall people ....
all kind of different people ..not unlike europeans..

In the past black people (in the US not in europe) where considered inferior in sports
therefore no infrastructures was really made available but once blacks started playing the white people sports they got better.

It's the same with education, if you don't educate a group of people they will always be "inferior" academically speaking, once you give them books they will be equally good with the possibility to even get better..

.. **** if anything during slavery white folks tried to keep blacks from having babies and eat properly , just enough scraps to be able to do the work not the ideal time for growing bigger

[DJAuto]

Honestly, there is some legitimacy to your initial inquiry. Genetic predisposition is the ultimate governing body.

[DavidMichaels]

i find my arms and delts grow faster than any other part

[MastaChris]

Dat der black genetics. They are mostly mesomorph body types. Through natural selection (africa bigger faster stronger survive). In slavery days the strongest men were choosen to breed. NO RACIST.

You're an idiot.

200 years of forced labor isn't going to drastically change ones genetics.

OP: Dark skin + low body fat = bigger looking muscles.

[ironrat42]

higher testosterone levels, I don't feel like arguing why I believe this is true (based on research), but on average I feel that African-American males have higher testosterone (not a lot higher, but statistically significant) than white males. I don't really think it has anything to do with the actual color of the skin (racism), it is more of a lifestyle response.

[cozener]

My time spent in the caribbean, I have seen a lot less obesity and well muscled black people in general. Those people spend almost no time in the gym. In less developed white and asian nations does anyone see well developed whites or asian in those nations walking the streets?

Well...it is colder in those countries so you'd be less likely to see them running around shirtless.

(yep...I totally pulled that comment out of ass )

Really, I have no idea where the OP is getting this. Could it be that he's just more likely to notice the muscular black guys than the white ones because there's, in general, less black guys than white guys?

[BCAAwhat]

See idk if this dude is being sarcastic or not because I've heard more than a few people make this argument. What is so funny about it is how relatively new it is. Up until the late 40s, early 50s blacks were thought to be athletically inferior to white athletes, just couldn't complete with them. Then almost overnight the rationale that slavery and breeding has produced a legion of unstoppable super athletes became the status quo. It's really quite ridiculous.

Well things like the NAACP and affirmative action helped. Up until then there were races that kept blacks out just because of their skin color. Think about it. But yes you do have to admit several factors play into it, gene pool from natural selection, and economic status. Growing up I remember several of my friends only had one (or no) tv, let alone video games. So we spent more time outside.

[MWheatley]

Maybe someone mentioned this, but black people store a higher % of fat under muscle tissue rather than above. Hence the beer belly six pack on some black people.

[tha shredda]

I just want to throw out my opinion and observations and such. 1st I do not belive black people have an advantage. This is coming from the guy who was litreally one of the greatest transformation stories in my high school, which was very athletic. And Im not a mesomorph. I started lifting weights much later than many black athletes in my school, and within a year I was the most muscular person (granted we dont have any bodybuilder where Im from) and did feats in the weight room that still shock even me. Look at my pics, Im not huge, Im not a meso by any means (so I think). I belive you choose to do what you do, and for me it was lifting weights thats why I made the gains I made.

I work for a big chain of gyms in the richmond area, and I dont see where any black people have an advantage over whites. I see around a 50/50 as far as decent physiques on races. And actually most of the bigger guys are white. Im not the smartest, but maybe there are other reasons why there are more black athletes in certain sports today than before (like football). Maybe white parents have more money to pay for things like college, and due to minority reasons black parents dont and thier children have more drive to get athletic scholorships to pay for education. Maybe something along that line?? Idk just an idea. Maybe another point is lets look at bodybuilding. The people that have won the Mr. O have been a pretty good mix of white/black people.

Just a few ideas..

[eNaCaipg13]

I do believe it's genetics but saying that it comes from slavery is kinda inaccurate. Those who came from the African continent including those from the Arabic countries have always had superior physical long before the slavery era...though when the Roman Empire was around it seems like the Romans were the strongest and Gengis Khan was Asian amd he was strong. But really, if slavery would change the genetics of some people than east indians and chinese would have better physical properties than anybody as they have been slaves for longer and still are...

[joelash302]

How on earth did this thread make 2 pages before "it's easier to lift when you don't have a job."

Thread is disappoint .

[joelash302]

Also, above response is not serious so nobody go pitch a complete $hit fit on me.

[Bostongeorge617]

To throw another observation out there, states like Texas and the midwest produce giant football players like no others both black and white. Why do you think this is?

I have decent genetics, always having had broad shoulders and a muscled lower body even before lifting weights. My dad's side of the family (black) battles with obesity and diabetes like crazy. Broad shoulders and big calves are also common to a smaller percent of Korean men.

The flipside is that I made an extreme lifestyle change to accomodate bodybuilding. I hit upon a decent formula for growth earlier than most by reading the right resources and actually implementing them.

Any person who sees me regularly in my gym know I bust my behind in there on the regular. Any person who works with me at my job knows how seriously I take food and always see me eating clean and like clockwork. So pretty much anyone who knows me doesn't chalk things up to solely genetics and it would be insulting if they did.

[Realistg]

It's called mesomorph. There are more black mesomorphs than white mesomorphs. It's as simple as that. Whether this is the result of slavery or purely coincidental is debatable.

[ironquant]

you're spot on man it's totally true i can speak for myself. i'm black, ripped with a huge dong & i don't go down on women.

[hlydon]

So many uneducated people...So many uneducated theories...

Try doing some research or at least Googling the socioeconomic reasons black people are over-represented in athletics.

OP: Sorry you're not seeing the gains others are. How about working harder and smarter?

[retiredrunner]

I hear there's a Discovery special in the works titled "Quest to find The Asian Mesomorph" hosted by Les Stroud

[DuranX]

Grits go a long way