first thread about muscle meds enoxide...

[plus44racer182]

ok i was going to make a log on this supp because muscular development made it sound awesome and i bought it ( i got 40% off it ) but its usually 80 and i got it for 40....80$ wtf i have taken it twice and so far NOTHING at all so it seems its really not worth the money really dissapointing so far i think im going to return it today. not sure if i should give it a week or not.... what you think?

[Kingbuddy]

ok i was going to make a log on this supp because muscular development made it sound awesome and i bought it ( i got 40% off it ) but its usually 80 and i got it for 40....80$ wtf i have taken it twice and so far NOTHING at all so it seems its really not worth the money really dissapointing so far i think im going to return it today. not sure if i should give it a week or not.... what you think?

I dont know if its bunk or not.... I liked Musclemeds other products... but I would at least give it a couple days....and if not....return it

[VaughnTrue]

ok i was going to make a log on this supp because muscular development made it sound awesome and i bought it ( i got 40% off it ) but its usually 80 and i got it for 40....80$ wtf i have taken it twice and so far NOTHING at all so it seems its really not worth the money really dissapointing so far i think im going to return it today. not sure if i should give it a week or not.... what you think?

what is it exactly(what do they claim its for?) and what are the ingredients

[iForce Dave]

what is it exactly(what do they claim its for?) and what are the ingredients

"2-(nitrooxy)ethyl 2-amino-3-methylbutanoate.

This is still just precursor to the production of nitric oxide in the body, the amino group provides a source of nitrogen. The numbers refer to where the bonds are in the hydrocarbon as different placements can dramatically effect the chemicals properties.

This is about as legit as I can get you without busting out some textbooks.

Basically: Marketing bull****."



-that isnt my opinion, i found it somewhere else...

[VaughnTrue]

"2-(nitrooxy)ethyl 2-amino-3-methylbutanoate.

This is still just precursor to the production of nitric oxide in the body, the amino group provides a source of nitrogen. The numbers refer to where the bonds are in the hydrocarbon as different placements can dramatically effect the chemicals properties.

This is about as legit as I can get you without busting out some textbooks.

Basically: Marketing bull****."



-that isnt my opinion, i found it somewhere else...

ahhh


so its the no2 version of arimatest...10,000% MORE TEST IN 5 SECONDS!!!

[iForce Dave]

ahhh


so its the no2 version of arimatest...10,000% MORE TEST IN 5 SECONDS!!!

except this will literally make your muscles so pumped, that they actutally explode after you finish your workout

clinically proven, vaso-myo-explosion technology

[VaughnTrue]

except this will literally make your muscles so pumped, that they actutally explode after you finish your workout

clinically proven, vaso-myo-explosion technology

id pay to watch someones bicep explode like it had an m-80 in it...

kidna like this











disclaimer: the above picture is fake, dont stress it. no news anchors were harmed in the making of this thread

[UTVOL06]

I tried eNoxide for 3 workouts. It worked at speeding up recovery between sets, but not really any type of energy surges like most caffeine based NO powders out today. I had to stop taking it though as it messed my stomach up too much after I took my post workout shake.

I don't take any NO supplements now...don't really feel a need for them If I take creatine with plenty of water.

[plus44racer182]

"2-(nitrooxy)ethyl 2-amino-3-methylbutanoate.

This is still just precursor to the production of nitric oxide in the body, the amino group provides a source of nitrogen. The numbers refer to where the bonds are in the hydrocarbon as different placements can dramatically effect the chemicals properties.

This is about as legit as I can get you without busting out some textbooks.

Basically: Marketing bull****."



-that isnt my opinion, i found it somewhere else...

thats great yeah it said that it was legit direct no thast why i wanted to try it AH returning it now .....

[plus44racer182]

third day using it and now im actually seeing a difference more vascular in my forearm and hands and my arms are a lil pumped not a huge diff though i may try it for a few more days.

[JJA]

I tried eNoxide for 3 workouts. It worked at speeding up recovery between sets, but not really any type of energy surges like most caffeine based NO powders out today. I had to stop taking it though as it messed my stomach up too much after I took my post workout shake.

I don't take any NO supplements now...don't really feel a need for them If I take creatine with plenty of water.

Wait stomach? Isnt enoxide sublingual?

[Patrick Arnold]

"2-(nitrooxy)ethyl 2-amino-3-methylbutanoate.

This is still just precursor to the production of nitric oxide in the body, the amino group provides a source of nitrogen. The numbers refer to where the bonds are in the hydrocarbon as different placements can dramatically effect the chemicals properties.

This is about as legit as I can get you without busting out some textbooks.

Basically: Marketing bull****."



-that isnt my opinion, i found it somewhere else...

i am gonna write about this stuff in MD

it makes as much sense taking this before your workout as taking your dads nitroglycerin sublingual

even less actually, because it will metabolize partly into ethylene glycol

[UTVOL06]

Wait stomach? Isnt enoxide sublingual?

It is, but its absorbed into the bloodstream. I think the vaso dialation or perhaps something I ate post workout along with vasodialation caused a$$ blow.

[Patrick Arnold]

It is, but its absorbed into the bloodstream. I think the vaso dialation or perhaps something I ate post workout along with vasodialation caused a$$ blow.

this stuff is a nitrate, just like the ones used to treat angina in heart patients

stomach problems are common, read below


What are the side effects?

Sometimes a medicine causes unwanted effects. These are called side effects. Not all of the side effects for nitrates are listed here. If you feel these or any other effects, you should check with your doctor.

Common side effects:

Dizziness
Headaches
Flushing of your face and neck
Upset stomach or throwing up
Low blood pressure (hypotension)
Irregular heart rhythms (arrhythmia)
Less common side effects:

Fainting
Restlessness
Rare side effects:

Dry mouth
Skin rash and peeling
Blurry vision

[iForce Dave]

i am gonna write about this stuff in MD

it makes as much sense taking this before your workout as taking your dads nitroglycerin sublingual

even less actually, because it will metabolize partly into ethylene glycol

thats funny because the only place i see it advertised is MD and Kai is their athlete lol

[Patrick Arnold]

thats funny because the only place i see it advertised is MD and Kai is their athlete lol

well if they fire me they fire me

[iForce Dave]

well if they fire me they fire me

lmao

you are my hero

[ZB126]

Isn't this from the makers of Arimatest, the product that boost testosterone 10,000%???? lol

[Hansolo261]

the product does look a bit much. I actually had a customer come in and say musclemeds stuff is the ****, it help kai green win the arnold." I busted out laughing in his face. I didnt sell him the products, didnt want the commission, my commission was the laugh.

[Patrick Arnold]

lmao

you are my hero

i will refrain from mentioning the product directly by name, but certainly knowledgable people will know exactly what i am talking about

[plus44racer182]

well i didn't think this thread would live but i actually would recommend this product its reallly good its 40 servings and one under the tounge pill after 4 days on it i was already having WAY better results then any other no pill gives in a weeks time my back felt so swoll 24 hours a day it was awesome i really wish i held on to it im gonna buy it again when i find it online for cheaper.

were ^^^^^ u guys saying it was crap or bad for you jw?

[Patrick Arnold]

well i didn't think this thread would live but i actually would recommend this product its reallly good its 40 servings and one under the tounge pill after 4 days on it i was already having WAY better results then any other no pill gives in a weeks time my back felt so swoll 24 hours a day it was awesome i really wish i held on to it im gonna buy it again when i find it online for cheaper.

were ^^^^^ u guys saying it was crap or bad for you jw?

this product is essentially an organic nitrate (ethylene glycol mononitrate). or more specifically an organic nitrate "pro drug" (as it is esterified to leucine). Organic nitrates include things such as nitroglycerin, isosorbide mononitrate, and sodium nitroprusside. These are drugs used to treat angina attacks essentially. They cause NON-SPECIFIC and SYSTEMIC vasodilation. In other words they just don't cause the blood vessels in your muscles to relax, it causes every blood vessel in your body to relax including brain, heart and you name it. The result is (if you actually ingest an amount that does anything) is a racing heartbeat, a headache, pooping, and several other not so pleasant things .


I am not being a "hater" or a "basher". I just thing y'all should know what this stuff is. Believe me, i tried one of my dads nitroglycerin sublinguals years ago in a moment of stupid curiousity. I ain't gonna do it again

[Anssi Manninen]

ok i was going to make a log on this supp because muscular development made it sound awesome

I think Blechman owns MuscleMeds. Anyway, their products are total garbage.

[Patrick Arnold]

I think Blechman owns MuscleMeds. Anyway, their products are total garbage.

they are affiliated with MHP. why do you think blechman has anything to do with them?

[Patrick Arnold]

an organic nitrate such as what this product seems to be might have benefit if it can be delivered directly and selectively to skeletal muscle. Some research (check out the research of JE Anderson) has suggested this possibility. However oral delivery would give a systemic effect and I think that has more downside potential then upside

[Anssi Manninen]

an organic nitrate such as what this product seems to be might have benefit if it can be delivered directly and selectively to skeletal muscle. Some research (check out the research of JE Anderson) has suggested this possibility. However oral delivery would give a systemic effect and I think that has more downside potential then upside

100 % agreed.

[Mfusick]

headache, pooping, and several other not so pleasant things .

I am not being a "hater" or a "basher". I just thing y'all should know what this stuff is. Believe me, i tried one of my dads nitroglycerin sublinguals years ago in a moment of stupid curiousity. I ain't gonna do it again

lol... Atleast you did it for the sake of knowledge... haha

[nike001]

an organic nitrate such as what this product seems to be might have benefit if it can be delivered directly and selectively to skeletal muscle. Some research (check out the research of JE Anderson) has suggested this possibility. However oral delivery would give a systemic effect and I think that has more downside potential then upside

I yust wanna know , can eNOXIDE do more harm than be usefull to an sporter .

[RAMWolff]

OK. I have a question... so this IS a nitrate then?? So pills like Levitra are out then?? Here is some info I got off of PubMed Health about mixing Levitra and nitrates:

"do not take vardenafil if you are taking or have recently taken nitrates such as isosorbide dinitrate (Isordil), isosorbide mononitrate (Imdur, ISMO), and nitroglycerin (Nitro-BID, Nitro-Dur, Nitroquick, Nitrostat, others). Nitrates come as tablets, sublingual (under the tongue) tablets, sprays, patches, pastes, and ointments. Ask your doctor if you are not sure if any of your medications contain nitrates."

So I should NOT take Levitra if I'm using this supplement then?? Don't want to die or anything! :-(

Thanks for the help! Much appreciated!

Richard

[BringnIt]

OK. I have a question... so this IS a nitrate then?? So pills like Levitra are out then?? Here is some info I got off of PubMed Health about mixing Levitra and nitrates:

"do not take vardenafil if you are taking or have recently taken nitrates such as isosorbide dinitrate (Isordil), isosorbide mononitrate (Imdur, ISMO), and nitroglycerin (Nitro-BID, Nitro-Dur, Nitroquick, Nitrostat, others). Nitrates come as tablets, sublingual (under the tongue) tablets, sprays, patches, pastes, and ointments. Ask your doctor if you are not sure if any of your medications contain nitrates."

So I should NOT take Levitra if I'm using this supplement then?? Don't want to die or anything! :-(

Thanks for the help! Much appreciated!

Richard

Patrick is gone, but he's the chemistry guru, so the short and sweet of it is, no, don't take them together.