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    Inhibit-E or Rev V2 for pct?

    Already have my 6-week H-Drol cycle ready to rock...decided against Tamox and sticking with oct for pct because of the mildness in terms of gyno rebound. I have a bottle of Inhibit-E and Reversitol V2 on hand. Ive read quite a few cycles using Rev V2 than anything else for otc pct.

    Anyone with solid advice one way or the other?
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    Originally Posted by son_of_samhain View Post
    Already have my 6-week H-Drol cycle ready to rock...decided against Tamox and sticking with oct for pct because of the mildness in terms of gyno rebound. I have a bottle of Inhibit-E and Reversitol V2 on hand. Ive read quite a few cycles using Rev V2 than anything else for otc pct.

    Anyone with solid advice one way or the other?
    Reversitol version 2 or version 1? Honestly, if you stacked Inhibit-E with maybe Activate Xtreme...but...the BEST thing in terms of shown bloodwork on the market atm would be Triazole or Bioforge. H-Drol can shut you down just as hard as M-Drol.
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    People on here will scream serm no matter what you say. IMO serms are the most proven but h-drol is a mild ph where u can run a otc pct. if you are set on otc i would run rv v2 and maybe throw in some lean xtreme, and if you can afford a tb. GL
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    Originally Posted by son_of_samhain View Post
    Already have my 6-week H-Drol cycle ready to rock...decided against Tamox and sticking with oct for pct because of the mildness in terms of gyno rebound. I have a bottle of Inhibit-E and Reversitol V2 on hand. Ive read quite a few cycles using Rev V2 than anything else for otc pct.

    Anyone with solid advice one way or the other?
    I personally wouldnt use inhibit-e as a foundation for a pct; although if you do go that route, you should have something like

    Inhibit-e
    PCT Assist / Post Cycle Support
    Optional cort control
    Liver support product

    Using rev v2 kind of simplifies things; it has a 'serm' matrix as well as some natty tboosting components. In that regard

    Rev V2
    Separate natty tbooster
    Optional cort control

    Some people dont like ATD as it tanks libido for them. Fortunately I did not have this problem when I ran it, but everyone's different.

    Personally, I would go the rev v2 route.

    Hope that helps
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    Thanks fellas - and yeah I know about screaming bloody murder about SERMS around here! Well, I decided not to go that route because I already have a t-booster and AI handy (Axis-HT/Inhibit-E/Rev. V2) and read countless logs about flawless cycles using otc for a 5-6 week of H-Drol dosed at 50/50/75/75/75. I'd rather not put the tamox into my body if I can avoid it ya know?

    I guess I'll keep the Inhibit-E handy for a rainy day and stick with the Rev V2/Axis-HT for now. I understand LX is good for cortisol control but is that even necessary for H-Drol?
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    Originally Posted by son_of_samhain View Post
    I guess I'll keep the Inhibit-E handy for a rainy day and stick with the Rev V2/Axis-HT for now. I understand LX is good for cortisol control but is that even necessary for H-Drol?
    Its not really compound dependent imo. I didnt use it for epi, my friend used it for mdrol. To each his own I imagine.

    Could be wrong on the dependency though.
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    I see your reasoning in going with an OTC PCT but gyno IMO shouldnt be the worst of your worries. Hdrol has in most users a very harsh shut down and can have some effects on your lipid profile, an AI + whatever will not illicit effects that will help with recovering your HPTA or lipid value. Though I will admit everyones different, specially on hdrol. Ive seen bloods with t-levels at under 100 and ive seen them at 400, really differs
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    the risks of using an otc pct are way worse than using a serm.
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    Originally Posted by AlphaTauMuscle View Post
    I see your reasoning in going with an OTC PCT but gyno IMO shouldnt be the worst of your worries. Hdrol has in most users a very harsh shut down and can have some effects on your lipid profile, an AI + whatever will not illicit effects that will help with recovering your HPTA or lipid value. Though I will admit everyones different, specially on hdrol. Ive seen bloods with t-levels at under 100 and ive seen them at 400, really differs
    I have seen that, so what would be your opinion on a solid OTC regime for H-Drol? I will be using a 2-part liver cycle (Uni-Liver and Liv52) during....Axis HT and Reversitol V2 for PCT
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    what's with everyone saying h-drol is a mild PH that just need OTC? Sure, it's mild on additional sides, but it can and will fully shut you down, just like every other ph/ds/aas
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    Wow...the stupidity on this site is just horrible.

    If it's methylated, use a ****ing SERM.

    OTC PCT's are bunk. You're wasting money and just paying for an advertising campaign. If you're going to use an OTC PCT, you should be using a fake PH that does nothing. That way you will be covered.

    If you're doing a methylated compound and you use an OTC PCT, it will be about as effective as hugging a dude that has Nolva in his system. Save your money, get a proper PCT and stop trying to hug me...
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    for compounds like this i like to use OTC stuff as well... i really like BBS complete PCT..
    but i have a botle of triazole on its way for use in my next cycle.
    BTW there is no need for liver protection once your cycle is complete.
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    I will be using a 2-part liver cycle (Uni-Liver and Liv52) during...
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    wut?
    It has liver in the name, so it must be for protecting your liver, right?
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    Originally Posted by bomb1977 View Post
    Wow...the stupidity on this site is just horrible.

    If it's methylated, use a ****ing SERM.

    OTC PCT's are bunk. You're wasting money and just paying for an advertising campaign. If you're going to use an OTC PCT, you should be using a fake PH that does nothing. That way you will be covered.

    If you're doing a methylated compound and you use an OTC PCT, it will be about as effective as hugging a dude that has Nolva in his system. Save your money, get a proper PCT and stop trying to hug me...
    i wasnt aware that methylation affected shutdown. cynostane is methylated but bloods have shown it to be incredibly unsuppressive. The One is methylated too i believe....

    but as for OTC PCTs being bunk, i would say that OTC for products such as SD and M1T is silly but the amount of research in ATD would support it being used a pct for many DS/PHs. combine that with a product such as bioforge/PCS and i'd say you have a solid pct.
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    id go inhibit e 3/2/2/1 with bioforge x/x/x/x
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    Originally Posted by son_of_samhain View Post
    Already have my 6-week H-Drol cycle ready to rock...decided against Tamox and sticking with oct for pct because of the mildness in terms of gyno rebound. I have a bottle of Inhibit-E and Reversitol V2 on hand. Ive read quite a few cycles using Rev V2 than anything else for otc pct.

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    Originally Posted by mark118 View Post
    i wasnt aware that methylation affected shutdown. cynostane is methylated but bloods have shown it to be incredibly unsuppressive. The One is methylated too i believe....

    but as for OTC PCTs being bunk, i would say that OTC for products such as SD and M1T is silly but the amount of research in ATD would support it being used a pct for many DS/PHs. combine that with a product such as bioforge/PCS and i'd say you have a solid pct.
    No, but it's still a good rule of thumb.

    If you're taking something from LG Sciences, by all means use an OTC PCT. Your cycle and your pct are both bunk anyways. But if you're really using a legit Halordol 50 clone like CEL HDrol, you really need to invest in a SERM. They're easy as hell to get, they're cheap and they provide you maximum protection.

    If you wanna play russian roulette with your health, it's you're life kid. My PCT's are always Nolva and I always run an extra week 20/20/10/10/10 just to be safe.

    I'm done with this topic, if you don't want the advice then do it your own way. I look forward to the next topic, "Help, I can't get it up" or "Help, I met this hot girl that wanted to ****...but I'd rather go to the gym and get sweaty with other guys instead" or the all time classic. 6 weeks out of my cycle and I'm starting to gain fat on my chest and stomach, please congradulate me for having the test level of a 92 year old man combined with the test level of a 14 year old girl!

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    Originally Posted by bomb1977 View Post
    No, but it's still a good rule of thumb.

    If you're taking something from LG Sciences, by all means use an OTC PCT. Your cycle and your pct are both bunk anyways. But if you're really using a legit Halordol 50 clone like CEL HDrol, you really need to invest in a SERM. They're easy as hell to get, they're cheap and they provide you maximum protection.

    If you wanna play russian roulette with your health, it's you're life kid. My PCT's are always Nolva and I always run an extra week 20/20/10/10/10 just to be safe.
    imo, simple cycles eg 4 weeks of epi, cynostane, The One, 11oxo, can easily go OTC PCT. i've run both otc and serm and im glad i had a serm for my SD cycle. saved my ass.
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    Nolva 20/20/10/10/10 would be way better for recovery and cost less.
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    Originally Posted by bomb1977 View Post
    Wow...the stupidity on this site is just horrible.

    If it's methylated, use a ****ing SERM.

    OTC PCT's are bunk. You're wasting money and just paying for an advertising campaign. If you're going to use an OTC PCT, you should be using a fake PH that does nothing. That way you will be covered.

    If you're doing a methylated compound and you use an OTC PCT, it will be about as effective as hugging a dude that has Nolva in his system. Save your money, get a proper PCT and stop trying to hug me...
    Tell me captain of chemistry, how does it being Methylated require a SERM? Can you refute the bloodwork of Triazole?
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    Originally Posted by RyKane View Post
    Can you refute the bloodwork of Triazole?
    There is no blood work from triazole showing HPTA recovery, so what exactly are you talking about? Just because something lowers estrogen 20% and raises test a bit, doesn't mean it is an effective PCT
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    Originally Posted by Opies View Post
    There is no blood work from triazole showing HPTA recovery, so what exactly are you talking about? Just because something lowers estrogen 20% and raises test a bit, doesn't mean it is an effective PCT
    Do you know how many factors go into HPTA recovery? Some people will go back into testicular homeostasis without the use of anything.
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    How should the ATD be dosed? Since it's an AI, should it be started low and then tapered upwards?
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