H-drol/11-sterone stack timing...

[Johnny666x]

I just started taking my H-Drol & 11-Sterone at 2:30am, and what would've been 2:30pm. BUT, I am not going to be working out until 5pm today. Should I wait to take the H-drol and 11-sterone at 4pm (1 hour before i workout), or should I still take it at 2:30pm (12 hours after my first dose) - i'm guessing this is the more important time

[Johnny666x]

Hmm...I knew H-drol's half life was 12 hours, but figured I would check 11-Sterone's and noticed it is 6-8 hours. Should I change my 11-12 hour inbetween doses, to taking H-drol twice with 11-sterone , and one dose inbetween those doses with a dose of 11-sterone?

230am- 1cap h-drol / 2cap 11-sterone

9am- 1cap 11-sterone

230pm- 1 cap h-drol 1cap 11-sterone

- but then there is 12 hours in between my last dose and morning dose of 11-sterone (should I take just 1 cap then in the morning, and use that extra pill at 7pm?)

[LiftHardOrDie22]

Their not preworkouts, their PH's. Just get em in your system effectively and safely. When you lift shouldnt matter.

[Johnny666x]

...okay...but what about the 11-sterone then...

If I'm taking 4 caps my first week, should i do it in 3 separate doses 2 @ 230am w/h-drol, 1 @200pm with h-drol, 7pm - 1cap 11-sterone

...or will it not matter if I just take it in 2 doses at the same time as the h-drol because the h-drol's half life is 12hrs

[kobekobe]

you're over thinking it. just take your dosages, split them up so you are taking them twice a day, 8-10 hrs apart preferably.

[Johnny666x]

...okay...but what about the 11-sterone then...

If I'm taking 4 caps my first week, should i do it in 3 separate doses 2 @ 230am w/h-drol, 1 @200pm with h-drol, 7pm - 1cap 11-sterone

...or will it not matter if I just take it in 2 doses at the same time as the h-drol because the h-drol's half life is 12hrs

anyone?

[xR1pp3Rx]

you should in fact time the doses properly for their half life yes.. also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. may i ask why you are taking them at 2:30 in the morning? is that do to work or something?

anyways GL

[athenrye]

Make sure when you take 11-Sterone to take about 10-15g of healthy fats with it. Just space the doses out during the day and stick to the same times each day. Don't take it too late at night though as it can affect your ability to fall asleep.

[Johnny666x]

you should in fact time the doses properly for their half life yes.. also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. may i ask why you are taking them at 2:30 in the morning? is that do to work or something?

anyways GL

Yes, I get up at 2am for work (most of the time anyway - OT).

I usually eat around 2:20-2:30 and take the h-drol and 11-sterone, so... I guess i'll take the 11-sterone after my meal....and take the h-drol 15+ minutes later (is it a big difference taking it 15 minutes later? and is it okay that i'd be taking the h-drol with water instead of food.

Athenrye, as far as the 10-15g of healthy fats...are the fats from milk, bagel, eggs,turkey sausage etc okay to take it with? for my second time I usually take it with a bagel and peanut butter so that should be good.

Thanks for the help guys

[athenrye]

Yeah they'd be fine. If you can time your 11-sterone doses to fit in with meals that contain fat then you don't have to worry about adding any more. I used olive oil, nuts or whatever I had in a meal. It's not as important with H-Drol if you take it with food or not since it's methylated and will survive the first pass through the liver no matter what you take it with. That's my understanding anyway.

[MikeCellucor]

Yeah they'd be fine. If you can time your 11-sterone doses to fit in with meals that contain fat then you don't have to worry about adding any more. I used olive oil, nuts or whatever I had in a meal. It's not as important with H-Drol if you take it with food or not since it's methylated and will survive the first pass through the liver no matter what you take it with. That's my understanding anyway.

Sounds right to me.

[Johnny666x]

you should in fact time the doses properly for their half life yes.. also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. may i ask why you are taking them at 2:30 in the morning? is that do to work or something?

anyways GL

Why should you wait at least 15 minutes before taking the other PH? I just happened to PLAN ON splitting them, and then as I was getting ready for lunch I put them in the same hand together - D'OH! and of course they look identical. So I took them (2 11-sterone, 1 h-drol) at the same time. I won't make a habit of this obviously, I just wanted to know any repurcussions etc.

thanks

[Johnny666x]

anyone?

[Opies]

take the 11-oxo upon waking, and half way through the day. Avoid taking it before bed, it makes it harder to wake up

[Johnny666x]

you should in fact time the doses properly for their half life yes.. also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. may i ask why you are taking them at 2:30 in the morning? is that do to work or something?

anyways GL

1- what is the reasoning behind taking them pro-hormones at least 15 min apart

2- I just upped my H-drol dosage to 75mg (week 2). I take it at 2am and 2pm (workout at 33pm usually). Is it better to take 2pills in the morning and 1 in the afternoon, or vice versa since the 2pm dosage would be closer to working out (didn't know if that would matter)

thanks

[mark118]

Their not preworkouts, their PH's. Just get em in your system effectively and safely. When you lift shouldnt matter.

i've read from many that PH/DSs should be timed 1hr preworkout.

ie 1 dose upon waking, and typically when people train after work, take the 2nd dose 1hr pre. workout

[Johnny666x]

1- what is the reasoning behind taking them pro-hormones at least 15 min apart

2- I just upped my H-drol dosage to 75mg (week 2). I take it at 2am and 2pm (workout at 33pm usually). Is it better to take 2pills in the morning and 1 in the afternoon, or vice versa since the 2pm dosage would be closer to working out (didn't know if that would matter)

thanks

anyone?

[mark118]

^1: not heard the 15min thing before

2: 50mg am, 25mg in the pm

[tylerdurden92]

you should in fact time the doses properly for their half life yes.. also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. may i ask why you are taking them at 2:30 in the morning? is that do to work or something?

anyways GL

never heard this one? why would you not take them all together? Whenever I stack phs, I always just pour all of them down the hatch at the same time...

[Johnny666x]

never heard this one? why would you not take them all together? Whenever I stack phs, I always just pour all of them down the hatch at the same time...

I never heard of it either until :

Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx
"... also dont take them together..
wait a minimum of 15 mins between phs. "


::shrugs:: okay, i'll go back to taking them together. It makes things a lot easier

Thanks guys