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    Rack deads: Beginning or end of the back workout?

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    I do my back workout once a week with traps and rear delts. On this day I do the following movements:

    -Rack deads
    -Yates BB-rows (overhand)
    -T-bar rows
    -hammer (underhand) pulldowns, one side at the time
    -wide grip pulldowns (1-2 sets after the hammer pulldowns)
    -rope pullovers (one set to finish up the lats)

    -reverse butterfly machine (one side at the time)
    -DB shruggs

    Well my problem is:

    I used to do my rack deads in the beginnning of my workout, then go over to the rows.
    The last few weeks I did my deads at the and and start off with the row movements and of course I could increase my rows (especially the BB rows) by a few pounds because I didnt destroy my lower back b4.

    That was great! I could really increase my yates rows, when I do them first...
    BUT the deads in the end were so fu*king weak...I had to reduce it by more than 55 lbs -.-

    Now what should I do,...what is more beneficial for my back? Do the deads first or the heavy rows?

    What are your opinions on this? With reasons plz.

    Thanks in advance
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    pich either rows, or rack pulls and ****ing hammer them into the ground

    increase by 50-100lbs and then switch to the other
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    I tend to alternate every so often. If you are concerned primarily with overall back development, then lats are king, which means rows are the better option to focus on.
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    Thanks for your answers guys.

    Ya, bc I'm a bodybuilder and not a powerlifter I'll keep the rows in the beginning for a while.

    But it really feels **** when your deads go down by almost 60lbs. -.-

    Its a hard decision to make man....all I know is that the guy with (one of) the best back(s) always did deads at the end, if he did any. Yes, dorian "the shadow" yates.
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