Hi,
I'm a wrestler and I had a good experience with 3-AD from AX in the past.
AX discountinued 3-AD and I'm wondering which one is the best non- methyl ph on the market?
Thanks
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09-11-2010, 07:21 AM #1
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09-11-2010, 07:35 AM #2
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09-11-2010, 10:46 AM #3
Katanadrol from Mr Supps is 5a-androstanol[2,3]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol -- non-methylated and is reputedly quite effective at high doses... I look forward to running it soon.
All the "Tren" prohormones are also both powerful and non-methylated. My current favorite is Trenazone -- which is a transdermal "Tren"... Just ran it for 4 weeks with good results.
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09-11-2010, 04:15 PM #4
this was discussed before (when i was lookign into it).
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123798441
can someone tell me the difference between the compound in katandrol and orastan a?
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09-11-2010, 04:24 PM #5
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09-11-2010, 04:27 PM #6
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09-11-2010, 05:32 PM #7
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09-11-2010, 05:45 PM #8
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09-11-2010, 06:33 PM #9
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09-11-2010, 07:48 PM #10
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09-11-2010, 07:57 PM #11
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09-11-2010, 08:16 PM #12
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09-12-2010, 10:26 AM #13
If I'm not mistaken...
5a-androstano(2,3-c) furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether
Orastane-E -- Prostanozol
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
Orastane-A -- Furaguno
Both of the above are more powerful than 11-OXO. And "Tren" (Nordienedione) is better than both and is probably your best bet.
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09-12-2010, 03:47 PM #14
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09-12-2010, 03:51 PM #15
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09-12-2010, 03:53 PM #16
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09-12-2010, 04:04 PM #17
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09-13-2010, 08:43 AM #18
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09-13-2010, 02:36 PM #19
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09-13-2010, 03:02 PM #20
'Tren' is estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione -- as in 'tren-xtreme,' 'trenazone,' 'x-tren,' etc... all these 'tren' compounds all have the same active ingredient. (Except for 'trenadrol', which is different -- and much more expensive, harder to find, and not quite as effective. In my opinion, that is.)
If you're going to take an estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione product, you will want to run a serious PCT. More serious, in any case, than 6-OXO.
Hope this helps!
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09-13-2010, 03:05 PM #21
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09-13-2010, 03:17 PM #22
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09-13-2010, 03:27 PM #23
Funny you should say that... See, some people swear by Trenadrol, but I've known a number of people who got absolutely nothing out of it. Some of them ended up giving the stuff away. Perhaps there were some quality control or dosing issues? On paper, 17b-methoxy-trienbolone seems like a tremendous compound... Odd that most of the real-world evidence I've seen/heard has been mixed.
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09-13-2010, 03:29 PM #24
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09-13-2010, 03:38 PM #28
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09-13-2010, 03:46 PM #30
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