Best Non-Methyl PH on the Market?

[KimJong-il]

trifecta stack is a nice option

[braveand]

SoTren is the tuff one, but What's about a mild compound like 3-AD?

I don't want to run an heavy PCT, I prefer mild one.. Maybe Bold?

[ndiguy]

SoTren is the tuff one, but What's about a mild compound like 3-AD?

I don't want to run an heavy PCT, I prefer mild one.. Maybe Bold?

If you can get your hands on it, it's a solid ph. Illegal tho. Bold and tren, class lll drugs now

[MikeDre]

Depending on your goals:

M-LMG
Furaza-A or P-Stanz
11-Sterone/11-OXO

[kbf1981]

Chaparral Labs MethoxyVol - Max LMG and a new AI, so great for recomp and cutting cycles. Hard to find.

[Shimada]

SoTren is the tuff one, but What's about a mild compound like 3-AD?

I don't want to run an heavy PCT, I prefer mild one.. Maybe Bold?

Katanadrol (or any other appropriately-dosed prostanozol) sounds right up your alley. It shouldn't shut you down as hard as Estra-4.9-diene-3,17-dione ("Tren") would.

[braveand]

Katanadrol (or any other appropriately-dosed prostanozol) sounds right up your alley. It shouldn't shut you down as hard as Estra-4.9-diene-3,17-dione ("Tren") would.

Thanks!

Someone "know" 1-andro rx?

[huge908]

I just picked up some protodrol for a wicked price, its a methyl but doesn't have liver toxicity. (as far as I know the only one of its kind) can't wait to give it a shot at 100mg a day (50mg too weak, 75mg just beginning to get results and 100mg is suppose to be the sweet spot and the dosage Patrick originally tested it on his friend who said it was simply amazing).

[roidnerd]

1.Bold (illegal but easy to obtain)
2. Tren (same illegal but easy to get)
3. M-LMG
4. Furuza-A
5. P-Stanz
6. 11-Oxo

Bold intrigues me a lot, but it's illegal as you say, yet everyone says it's so easy to obtain. Isn't anyone scared of customs or do they just order and not really worry about it?

[R389]

There are 2 that come to mind that I have ran and had awesome results. 1,4-androstadiene and 4-androstene-diol. If you look in the right spots you are able to find it still.

[pigpen75]

11-OXO. It's just simply awesome.





-Spaz

I wasn't impressed at all. Maybe try stacking it with another non-methyl ph

[em-dubya]

I wasn't impressed at all. Maybe try stacking it with another non-methyl ph

11oxo/11sterone isn't a PH than is gonna give you much in strength gains and such, but will aid in lowering cortisol/reducing fat.

[EVO-PT]

11-OXO. It's just simply awesome.





-Spaz

Spaz thinking of doing an 11-oxo cycle and running it like so:

Weeks 1-2: 5 caps a day

Weeks: 3-6: 6 caps a day

Pct:

6-oxo run at recommend dose
+ powerful for maybe 2 weeks (got some left over)

Other supplements while on:

Fish oil
Multi
zinc
vit c
royal jelly
Garlic

What do u reckon? ANything I should add in regards to support supps or anything???

Cheers mate

[djshortsleeve]

Spaz thinking of doing an 11-oxo cycle and running it like so:

Weeks 1-2: 5 caps a day

Weeks: 3-6: 6 caps a day

Pct:

6-oxo run at recommend dose
+ powerful for maybe 2 weeks (got some left over)

Other supplements while on:

Fish oil
Multi
zinc
vit c
royal jelly
Garlic

What do u reckon? ANything I should add in regards to support supps or anything???

Cheers mate

Id run it at at least 6 a day, maybe 8. I ran it at 6 and it was good, but when I run again it will be 8 (600 mg).

[rezstyle]

What are your goals for this cycle? LMG is good when bulking while P-stanz, Furuza A or 11sterone are good for a cut/recomp

^ Guy might know his ****. I can attest to both P-stanz & especially 11-sterone as I ran both.

And to EVO-PT, run it at 600 mgs, worked AWESOME on a recomp!

[EVO-PT]

Might have a crack at 600mg a day...anything you guys would add to pct or support supps?

[em-dubya]

Something like PCT Assist would be fine...add an AI if you want but not needed IMO

[kingjameskjf]

Funny you should say that... See, some people swear by Trenadrol, but I've known a number of people who got absolutely nothing out of it. Some of them ended up giving the stuff away. Perhaps there were some quality control or dosing issues? On paper, 17b-methoxy-trienbolone seems like a tremendous compound... Odd that most of the real-world evidence I've seen/heard has been mixed.

I ran KS Tren and was very disappointed, I will not touch it again...but then again, I hear it works great for some.

IMO, for non-methyls, 11-OXO is good but you have to run at high doses and it gets pretty expensive. P-Stanz is also good. P-Mag (promagnon) is a methyl but is very mild in terms of sides but also yields great results. I ran a log of it earlier this year and it is one of my favorite compounds.

[nickrut]

11Sterone is solid, but for a solo run I'd go with MLMG (for bulking), hdrol or pmag. Both pmag and hdrol are methyls but are mild.