Stacking Erase and DAA?

[tino124]

Picked up some Erase in the presale, and some bulk DAA.

This should be fine to stack right?

Also taking Bodyforge/Jack3d if im on or off stims, and Xtend.

[tino124]

Nobody?

Reps will be given.

[cuse88]

Picked up some Erase in the presale, and some bulk DAA.

This should be fine to stack right?

Also taking Bodyforge/Jack3d if im on or off stims, and Xtend.

I've heard and read mixed things about running an AI while on DAA and with my current DAA stack I decided not run one. You have to remember Estrogen plays a role in increasing Test levels as well and lowering the levels really isn't a cure all and could possibly decrease the benefits of DAA. Just my understanding and .2 cents.

I'm running AI's Stoked/DAA/and NOW L-DOPA currently and am loving it.

[rip]

I've heard and read mixed things about running an AI while on DAA and with my current DAA stack I decided not run one. You have to remember Estrogen plays a role in increasing Test levels as well and lowering the levels really isn't a cure all and could possibly decrease the benefits of DAA. Just my understanding and .2 cents.

I'm running AI's Stoked/DAA/and NOW L-DOPA currently and am loving it.

Can you provide some more info on why an AI and DAA might not stack well together? I was gonna run the same stack in a few weeks.

[cuse88]

Can you provide some more info on why an AI and DAA might not stack well together? I was gonna run the same stack in a few weeks.

I believe 6 weeks is the minimum cycle length for any test-booster if you want to see some actual improvement in strength and body composition. I also believe 3 grams is the minimum dosage to get a decent test increase.
Last, you need estrogens alongside testosterone to increase anabolism. Focus on the T/E ratio,not total E. I wouldn't use any AI.

This is kind of what I based my choice on as I feel THEHUGE is very knowledgeable and reliable.

This thread is worth skimming through to cover the basics: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=126866763

[rip]

Interesting, maybe THEHUGE can comment on this. I thought he helped develop a product that contained DAA and the AI that's in Erase?

[cuse88]

Interesting, maybe THEHUGE can comment on this. I thought he helped develop a product that contained DAA and the AI that's in Erase?

He possibly had some input,but he just said the two together don't make a good stack.

[rip]

Good to know, thanks bro.

[THEHUGE]

He possibly had some input,but he just said the two together don't make a good stack.

I actually formulated a product with DAA and the AI in erase for another company one year ago. They do make a good stack.

[tenaciousj]

I'm actually starting this today.

[Ash16]

I hope they go well together.. i enjoyed just bulk DAA at 4-5g/day for 4 weeks.

my next stack will be Erase/DAA/L-Dopa/P-Slin/White Flood - Jack3d combo.. looking forward to this for a cut just to get down to the body fat% i want.. then i have more for a bulk stack in future

[tenaciousj]

I hope they go well together.. i enjoyed just bulk DAA at 4-5g/day for 4 weeks.

my next stack will be Erase/DAA/L-Dopa/P-Slin/White Flood - Jack3d combo.. looking forward to this for a cut just to get down to the body fat% i want.. then i have more for a bulk stack in future

How did you dose the DAA, just split the doses into twice a day?

[cuse88]

I actually formulated a product with DAA and the AI in erase for another company one year ago. They do make a good stack.

Well this answers your questions fellas lol. It was just my understanding that an AI could undercut the effects of DAA slightly. What is the difference between the AI in Erase and something like Gaspari's Nolvadex? Just looking for some knowledge .

[rip]

Well this answers your questions fellas lol. It was just my understanding that an AI could undercut the effects of DAA slightly. What is the difference between the AI in Erase and something like Gaspari's Nolvadex? Just looking for some knowledge .

No worries, based on the quote you texted I would have thought the same. I think as long as the AI isn't dosed too high we should be good.

Would definitely like some additional knowledge on the differences in AI's as well.

[ChristianLoving]

It's just a balancing act. That's all.

If there was anyway to get blood work one you'd just keep an eye on estrogen making sure they stayed on the lower level of normal.

[pilip99]

It's just a balancing act. That's all.

If there was anyway to get blood work one you'd just keep an eye on estrogen making sure they stayed on the lower level of normal.

for sure; i think bloodwork on this stack would be necessary to find out its true effectiveness

[NewYorkMets]

just recieved 2 bottles of erase, looking forward to running it. going to stack it with alpha-2.

[Adjusting]

just recieved 2 bottles of erase, looking forward to running it. going to stack it with alpha-2.

Nice!

That's got to be one of the better recomp stacks out there. Driven has a good line for that too.

[THEHUGE]

Well this answers your questions fellas lol. It was just my understanding that an AI could undercut the effects of DAA slightly. What is the difference between the AI in Erase and something like Gaspari's Nolvadex? Just looking for some knowledge .

In the bloods I've reviewed the AI in erase caused (at reasonably low doses) a moderate(10-15%) and only transitory( about 2 weeks) decrease in estradiol but the increase in testosterone was pretty decent. Mild to no effect on estrogens+increased testosterone = very good environment for anabolism IMO.

[Ash16]

How did you dose the DAA, just split the doses into twice a day?

Yeh split the dose as i found more than 3g at one time seemed to make me feel a bit too anxious and short tempered.

~2-2.5g first thing when i got up with a multi (heard the B vitamins are good to take with DAA) and plenty of water then i eat 20 minutes later.. and again ~2-2.5g either before my workouts on an empty stomach (20 mins before pre-WO supp) or before dinner on non-workout days.

Main thing i noticed was increased aggression.. especially while driving.. frequently impatient with drivers who were just under.. sometimes doing.. the speed limit. im usually pretty chillaxed on the roads. The bad thing was some anxiety early on.. constant feeling like i had forgotten something really important and couldnt remember what it was.. and i was supposed to be somewhere other than where i was.. pretty wierd and unsettling feeling but it chilled out was i split the doses

[Deviant Dingo]

How are you guys using the bulk DAA powder measuring it out?

Is it dangerous for me to guess the amount by say using a teaspoon? Half teaspoon usually equal to 2.5gram.



I was going to stack the bulk DAA powder with just erase aswell, but im considering stacking it with promax aswell, what do you think?

[Ash16]

yeh just roughly measure. on the DAA tub it states 1/4 of a teaspoon = 650mg of DAA so i just take a decent full teaspoon in the morning and again in the afternoon/night. im not sure what promax is.. but ive read stacking in l-dopa is a good idea (thats what im doing). plus making sure you meet you vitamin B's for the day and added antioxidants from green tea is a bonus aswell. im also liking the pumps and endurance from the p-slin.

[THEHUGE]

im not sure what pro max is..

Yeah retailers on Mars didn't pick it up yet.

[Ash16]

oh bioforge. lol

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[THEHUGE]

oh bioforge. lol

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Lulz

Sorry I just couldn't resist

[Deviant Dingo]

Yea another planet really needs to hurry up and stock bioforge.

What do you reckon The Huge, should I run promax separately after this stack or with?

[THEHUGE]

Yea another planet really needs to hurry up and stock bioforge.

What do you reckon The Huge, should I run promax separately after this stack or with?

After, maybe with testforce like I'm doing right now.

[Deviant Dingo]

After, maybe with testforce like I'm doing right now.

Done.

How do you recommend dosing the erase?

Sorry, I feel like I am milking you for information sometimes. haha.

[THEHUGE]

Done.

How do you recommend dosing the erase?

Sorry, I feel like I am milking you for information sometimes. haha.

LOL no worries. I wouldn't stack two AIs(erase and Pro Max).

[Deviant Dingo]

LOL no worries. I wouldn't stack two AIs(erase and Pro Max).

Thanks mate,

Ill dose it like this

DAA: 2g morning / 2g night
Erase: as per bottle suggestions