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PES Erase Vs. Driven Sports Triazole
Which one is better? What's your opinion?
I know neither has been out for very long, but based on their formula's and anecdotal evidence (blood work, etc), which one will be better for bringing about changes in body composition?
Erase is significantly cheaper, but only take this into account if you think both products will be equally effective.
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There is some bloodwork for Triazole (check the Company Promo section) but I haven't seen any for Erase. In an interview on SHR, the formulator of Erase mentions that he did some tests on himself, but I don't think there are many others floating around.
Either way, both are new products so the feedback is going to be limited.
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Originally Posted by StevenSeagal2
Which one is better? What's your opinion?
I know neither has been out for very long, but based on their formula's and anecdotal evidence (blood work, etc), which one will be better for bringing about changes in body composition?
Erase is significantly cheaper, but only take this into account if you think both products will be equally effective.
Until I see some more feedback /bloodwork on both I'll hold off buying either ----HOWEVER I certainly trust DS' formulations way more than PES . I'm sure at that price they will sell a lot at first
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You have a product created by Matt Cahill versus....
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Originally Posted by yourname2221
I would support DS=proven time and time again
Originally Posted by Illadelphia
You have a product created by Matt Cahill versus....
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Originally Posted by Nailbomb9
They can't both be better. One has to be better than the other. If they are both equally effective, with similar side effects, then erase is better because it is cheaper.
I somehow doubt they are exactly equal though.
Any more opinions?
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Time proven quality company (DS) -vs- new, relatively unheard of, unproven company (PES)
you decide.
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I agree with the above. DS is proven.
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Honestly, I do not think this a fair comparison. Its one ingredient (Erase) vs a formula (Triazole). I would say when it comes to purchasing you should get Erase if you already have a natty test boosting stack but need an AI. However, if your looking for more of an all in one and to be your big superstar of a stack go with Triazole. Knowing who created Triazole automatically gives it credibility to me and the blood work I have seen has been promising. In regard to Erase, 3,7 Keto which is in Free Test, it is a great compound because it covers 3 bases in one shot...it controls cortisol, stops estrogen in its tracks, and as a result increases test.
So if you already have a solid natty test booster on hand (something like ActiVate Xtreme, DRIVE, IGF-2, TestoPro, etc for example) that does not include an AI and your not looking to break the bank, Erase is the way to go.
To be honest, I think a better comparison to Triazole would be Free Test. Both products have blood work to back them up and both are complete formulas and in that case I think there are going to be some who respond to Triazole better and some who respond to Free Test better...not just one ingredient.
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Originally Posted by yourname2221
I would support DS=proven time and time again
Originally Posted by Illadelphia
You have a product created by Matt Cahill versus....
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Originally Posted by SupremeMMA
Originally Posted by TheFugitive
Originally Posted by Opies
Time proven quality company (DS) -vs- new, relatively unheard of, unproven company (PES)
you decide.
Originally Posted by SimilartoKOBE
I agree with the above. DS is proven.
Seriously fellas, thanks for the support.
We have spent a long time working on Triazole. A LONG time. We were also confident in its design enough to have several testers get blood work BEFORE the product was released.
In fact, i don't think there has been a product released in the INDUSTRY that has been released supported by so much blood work. If i'm wrong please let me know.
Triazole is now in stock at many retailers, and according to MegaMike of BB.com they should be getting it in stock in the near future. When the reviews come back from legitimate users and not shills/haters (seriously, over 20 rates on NP to make the product 3.5/5 before the product was in anyone hands other than the beta-testers is ridiculous) we are confident you'll all believe that Triazole is the real deal.
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At this point, with all the bloodwork backing Triazole, I would have a hard time choosing something else. Not to say erase won't be effective (it certainly may be wonderful), but as of now, I think it is prudent to go with something with a good deal of bloodwork on it already released.
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Originally Posted by StevenSeagal2
They can't both be better. One has to be better than the other. If they are both equally effective, with similar side effects, then erase is better because it is cheaper.
I somehow doubt they are exactly equal though.
Any more opinions?
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To be fair no one has used Erase yet. It would be nice to actually hear feedback on the product first before people condemn it.
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Originally Posted by Adjusting
To be fair no one has used Erase yet. It would be nice to actually hear feedback on the product first before people condemn it.
I agree with this sentiment and hope people don't take my post the wrong way. The product (in my brief review), certainly looks promising. I hope to certainly try it out one day. I am merely waiting to see bloodwork etc...
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I have used DS products in the past and love them, they do EXACTLY what they say they do. That being said Erase looks like a great product. IF, and this is a big if, Erase lowers estrogen at the same rate as Triazole then I would lean towards Erase being better because it also lowers cortisol and is a fair bit cheaper, almost acting like a LX/Triazole stack would, am I wrong?
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I don't know if your right or wrong but I loved Triazole I can honestly say my it was my favorite non staple supplement I have ever used. I ordered Erase yesterday to add to my EC so I'll be able to review them head to head. Wasn't on EC with Triazole but was still trying to cut weight so similar environments I'll be using them in.
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I have read so many good things about Alpha-T2 stacked with Erase I think I am going to give it a go. Most logs have people reporting a weight loss of 10+ lbs with no change in diet or workout, looking more vascular, strength gains, adn actually some gaining muscle. Seems like a no brainer for 40$. I first heard about this product on SuperHumanRadio and really trust their opinion and review of the product
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Originally Posted by MachMood
I have read so many good things about Alpha-T2 stacked with Erase I think I am going to give it a go. Most logs have people reporting a weight loss of 10+ lbs with no change in diet or workout, looking more vascular, strength gains, adn actually some gaining muscle. Seems like a no brainer for 40$. I first heard about this product on SuperHumanRadio and really trust their opinion and review of the product
I wouldn't believe the losing 10+ lbs using 2 natural products with no change in diet. Now I have used AT2 and was very impressed so hopefully PES impresses me again with Erase but don't expect miracles from natural products even if they are very good a 10 lb loss with no change in diet is wishful thinking.
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I have used both triazole and erase, cant really go wrong with either. I used the Triple Crown Stack (erase, titanium, and AT2) and it was great, and really cost-effective when they run it on sale. Lost alot of weight while getting stronger at same time on this (noob gains or whatever u wanna call it). Used the Triazole, AX, Lx stack recently and strength increase was def noticable. For me, I think Triazole was better for strength and Erase was better for maintaining strength and leaning out.....Triazole=hungry all the time and AT2=sweat like crazy
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I have used Erase alone, and stacked with AT2. I had great results. I didnt do bloodwork, but I had excellent strength gains and fat loss... dropped 2 inches off my waist in a month. Compared to the previous months, the effects were noticable.
I am not saying Erase is better... I'm certain TZ is an excellent product - I have read the reviews and saw the the bloodwork results people have posted. I am saying Erase is a great product. Give it a try. ~30 bucks a bottles is a great price.
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Can erase be taken with triazole or is it counter productive?
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Originally Posted by reverse79
Can erase be taken with triazole or is it counter productive?
I'd say a waste.
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