if you think myofusion is a "quality" protein, you are retarded.

[7percent]

And that recommendation would be....?

Trutein.

[RichieL1]

Myo is so popular because it tastes great. As far as debating how good the protein is, why is anyone actually trying??? The point is no one knows how much of anything is in it so debating is pointless. If you want a high quality blend look elsewhere, there's a reason Myo doesn't disclose their ratios as some other companies do. Or you could just have faith it's good I guess.

[DedicatedDad]

Myo is so popular because it tastes great. As far as debating how good the protein is, why is anyone actually trying??? The point is no one knows how much of anything is in it so debating is pointless. If you want a high quality blend look elsewhere, there's a reason Myo doesn't disclose their ratios as some other companies do. Or you could just have faith it's good I guess.

Great post.i couldn't agree more. Rep on recharge.

[keitznic]

Ok, you keep thinking that too. Protein is not protein.

Look up things like Bioavaliability and Essential Amino acids.

I tossed a whole bag of EAS protein out because I found out that the amino acids in the protein we're not quality amino acids, meaning my body had no use for them.

For all intents and purposes, protein is NOT protein.

For the record, ON and Syntha 6, and Myofusion are some of the best protein complexes you can get on the market. ON being the cheapest.

what are some good powders with quality amino acids?

[Farley1324]

Myo is so popular because it tastes great. As far as debating how good the protein is, why is anyone actually trying??? The point is no one knows how much of anything is in it so debating is pointless. If you want a high quality blend look elsewhere, there's a reason Myo doesn't disclose their ratios as some other companies do. Or you could just have faith it's good I guess.

What blend do you recommend?

[|ceman]

i understand that, but what you're essentially saying is that you dont disclose the blend to increase and protect profits at the expense of the consumer.

i can only hope that as time goes on, consumers become smarter. if the supplement buying demographic demanded label transparency (and theres absolutely no reason they shouldnt) it will force companies like gaspari to give it to them.

until then, gaspari and other major supplement brands will reap the benefit of consumer retardism and their sayings like:

-"i trust gaspari!"
-"myofusion kicks ass!"
-"OMG strawberry is teh nuclear bomb!"
-"whey concentrate is the best!"
-"the proprietary blend is siiiiiiiiiiiiick"
-"who cares?"
-"im in a fraternity!"

and so on.

The customer is not taken advantage of. Sure, more transparency would be nice but realistically, it's not needed, particularly on food products. If the sources are quality and the labels are accurate, then you are getting exactly what you are paying for.

Again, I wish I could do something to make you happier about the situation, but at the end of the day you have to decide that if not knowing the exact percentages of concentrate, isolate, egg albumen, and milk protein is bothersome enough for you not to buy the product. And if you choose another brand, I wish you the best in your training and hope you'll give Myofusion another shot later on or try one of our other products.

Trutein.

I see this name coming up a lot all of a sudden. Are they a new player? Sorry for the basic nature of this question, but what confidence do you have in them aside from their own marketing? There have been many companies that came and went on the forums in popularity - American Whey, MGN, etc. Why do you think this new company has staying power?

[keitznic]

Any complete protein source (and whey, casein, egg are all complete proteins) have a complete amino profile.

Some companies list the amino profile, but unless they are adding additional free form aminos (and most do not) it's just a marketing gimmick. Further, whey protein has pretty mch the same amino profile as whey protein from a different brand. You have to look to different protein sources to alter the amino profile.

what protein powders have added free form aminos?

[7percent]

I see this name coming up a lot all of a sudden. Are they a new player? Sorry for the basic nature of this question, but what confidence do you have in them aside from their own marketing? There have been many companies that came and went on the forums in popularity - American Whey, MGN, etc. Why do you think this new company has staying power?

I just like how they are telling us upfront what's in it. I also like the 40/40/20 whey, casein, egg mix. Hard to find something like that.

[|ceman]

what protein powders have added free form aminos?

There are a few.

Intrapro does for one.

Pro-complex is another.

[|ceman]

I just like how they are telling us upfront what's in it. I also like the 40/40/20 whey, casein, egg mix. Hard to find something like that.

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

[koard31]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

Nah we'll wait until some poser uses a generic account, posts a lab analysis of the protein to force said company to provide a COA and then we'll trust them, err wait what?

[BringnIt]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

Ditto. Too many companies with misleading labels or just plain adulterated products in this industry for me to go with an unknown.

[opentehcan]

Sure, more transparency would be nice but realistically, it's not needed

lol what a joke you are

"lets try and sell stuff to consumers who don't know whats in the product"

[7percent]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

I guess that is a good point. Who can we really trust these days though? Got to take a leap of faith every once in a while!

[MuscleSpasms]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

Great question, why should you trust a company that puts in 0.0004 of turk in Superpump and then claims that its an effective dose?
Why should you trust Reps that discredit 1,3 dimeth, then back pedal once their own company releases a product with 1,3 in it...

Just sayin

[sandaltan]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

i find it ironic that you would require a "little more surety before trusting 100%," when gaspari refuses to disclose information relevant to the consumer.

you're disseminating mistrust of label claims when your company doesnt even have a label. they claim to have a 40-40-20 blend. you claim that you wont tell us. i can just feel the trust.

[SwissMuscle]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

Because not only are they honest to what they are selling by listing the percentages of the formulation but also because one can feel and see that it is almost half casein. Anyone who has consumed pure casein would know what I mean.

Myofusion is a great whey shake for the price and tastes good, but it's not in the Whey/Casein blend category. I consume Myofusion for what it is.

[kfairhurst]

|ceman, I respect you taking the time to answer peoples ridiculous posts and not simply posting stupid .gifs and "seriousbro" posts like many reps. I have a few questions though:

1. Are all Gaspari products produced in one warehouse and to the same standard? Reason being, is that I agree Myofusion and Gaspari products alike are most likely of higher quality control than what many of us are consuming, but with different places having different guidelines it could be easily avoided by producing the products to different standards.

2. Wasn't Myofusion originally about $33-35 for 5lbs? Whats with the price jump? I understand supply and demand but having your customers by the balls isn't really cool. It seems to have gone up in several small increments, and I already know about "rising prices" as of late, but it has gone up before that.

I really don't understand 90% of these posts... If you want something other than WPC, don't use Myofusion. And even if they disclosed percentages, whats the proof that is what you are getting? Trutein and XF gives out percentages for UP, but how do you know that is what you really get? It would be the same thing with Myofusion. There is no way but to trust companies that are well respected as consumers. Until I am given a reason not to trust a company, I will continue to do so. That being said I recently placed an order with TruNutrition because of price and non-proprietary blend on Trutein. The milk protein isolate is also VERY cheap.

I personally wouldn't buy Myofusion at the price bb.com offers it for, but if it was still its original price I would probably use it, because it tastes great and is well regulated for quality(GMP).

[|ceman]

lol what a joke you are

"lets try and sell stuff to consumers who don't know whats in the product"

Our labels fully disclose what is in the product.

Unfortunately that does not include the exact recipe so you can make your own.

Great question, why should you trust a company that puts in 0.0004 of turk in Superpump and then claims that its an effective dose?
Why should you trust Reps that discredit 1,3 dimeth, then back pedal once their own company releases a product with 1,3 in it...

Just sayin

We've also done a lot of things that show you can put your trust in us. Making products that work and continue to work well time after time is a major business value that Rich stands behind.

But I also realize you can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time.

i find it ironic that you would require a "little more surety before trusting 100%," when gaspari refuses to disclose information relevant to the consumer.

you're disseminating mistrust of label claims when your company doesnt even have a label. they claim to have a 40-40-20 blend. you claim that you wont tell us. i can just feel the trust.

We have a label and display the exact amounts of protein, fats, carbs, calories etc that you're getting.

We don't have to (and won't) give you the Myofusion recipe on the label though. Sorry.



Really guys, you can argue the point till you're blue in the face, but the Myofusion recipe will not be handed out. Sorry, just the way it is. If that fact is enough to make you hate Myofusion and hate Gaspari Nutrition, then I'm sorry and hope you'll give us a shot at some point down the road. I know an upcoming product will have more label transparency, but still not 100% recipe transparency.

There really isn't anything else to say about that.

[opentehcan]

Our labels fully disclose what is in the product.

Unfortunately that does not include the exact recipe so you can make your own.


We've also done a lot of things that show you can put your trust in us. Making products that work and continue to work well time after time is a major business value that Rich stands behind.

But I also realize you can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time.



We have a label and display the exact amounts of protein, fats, carbs, calories etc that you're getting.

We don't have to (and won't) give you the Myofusion recipe on the label though. Sorry.



Really guys, you can argue the point till you're blue in the face, but the Myofusion recipe will not be handed out. Sorry, just the way it is. If that fact is enough to make you hate Myofusion and hate Gaspari Nutrition, then I'm sorry and hope you'll give us a shot at some point down the road. I know an upcoming product will have more label transparency, but still not 100% recipe transparency.

There really isn't anything else to say about that.

BLAH BLAH

NO ONE WANTS TO "MAKE THE MYOFUSION FORUMLA" IN THEIR BASEMENT. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG WE ARE GETTING.

knowing the ratios wont let us know how to make the product. the flavoring is whats important anyways, according to gaspari

[sandaltan]

Our labels fully disclose what is in the product.

Unfortunately that does not include the exact recipe so you can make your own.


We've also done a lot of things that show you can put your trust in us. Making products that work and continue to work well time after time is a major business value that Rich stands behind.

But I also realize you can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time.



We have a label and display the exact amounts of protein, fats, carbs, calories etc that you're getting.

We don't have to (and won't) give you the Myofusion recipe on the label though. Sorry.



Really guys, you can argue the point till you're blue in the face, but the Myofusion recipe will not be handed out. Sorry, just the way it is. If that fact is enough to make you hate Myofusion and hate Gaspari Nutrition, then I'm sorry and hope you'll give us a shot at some point down the road. I know an upcoming product will have more label transparency, but still not 100% recipe transparency.

There really isn't anything else to say about that.

lol

[SwissMuscle]

Trutein and XF gives out percentages for UP, but how do you know that is what you really get?

If it has a generous amount of Casein, you can feel the texture and see it on the inner-wall of the cup after you consume it.

[|ceman]

BLAH BLAH

NO ONE WANTS TO "MAKE THE MYOFUSION FORUMLA" IN THEIR BASEMENT. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG WE ARE GETTING.

knowing the ratios wont let us know how to make the product. the flavoring is whats important anyways, according to gaspari

Why does that matter? Are you only consuming so much protein from eggs daily or only so much casein?

Don't over think things. they are all whole protein sources. People on this site obsess over the smallest minutia.

[Farley1324]

lol

That's all you got?

[DocNess]

How about we stop relying so much on protein and other supplements and eat properly?

This is insane.

I think the reps should start calling the board members out because they dont eat properly are using ****ty routines.

Isnt this rediculous?

[opentehcan]

Why does that matter? Are you only consuming so much protein from eggs daily or only so much casein?

Don't over think things. they are all whole protein sources. People on this site obsess over the smallest minutia.

ignoring yet again.........knowing the ratio WONT let us make myofusion ourselves. obvious now that the prop blend is to cover up a terrible blend

oh and btw, have you not read how mixed protein sources are better than one?

[Farley1324]

How about we stop relying so much on protein and other supplements and eat properly?

....So fix your diet and stop relying on protein supplements.

[sandaltan]

That's all you got?

ya man, im tired. cant believe this thread made it to 200 posts.

in reality, it IS just some protein. be a wise consumer. dont be like the poor fools who refinanced with countrywide or took out a sub-prime jumbo loan en route to their 4th bankruptcy.

as for me, seeing as protein is the only supplement i use, and is arguably the most important, im gonna stick with brands that disclose a quality blend.

one other thing i would like to point out (totally off topic): i just came across flashover - a pre w/o product. never heard of it or tried it, but they also disclose their formula and it looks solid. that is all.

[Illadelphia]

Stupid question - why should you trust them?

I assume all you're reporting on is their marketing website, right?

I'm not saying that they are or aren't trust worthy, just that when a new company comes up and makes claims on their website, I would hope that people would require a little more surety before trusting 100%. At least that's the way I work.

In before Man of Many and the other trutein bros throw hate lasers at you.

I said the same thing, almost word for word and the "good bro entourage" started crying

[|ceman]

ignoring yet again.........knowing the ratio WONT let us make myofusion ourselves. obvious now that the prop blend is to cover up a terrible blend

oh and btw, have you not read how mixed protein sources are better than one?

I've answered why in previous posts. It's largely to protect the unique flavoring system (which is a combination of flavoring additives and the exact blend of protein sources) which many other companies would love to get their hands on.

Maybe you personally don't want the recipe of Myofusion, but considering how popular it has become in such a short time - many other competitors DO want the recipe. And if we share it with you, we share it with them.

I wish there was more I could do to help you on this. You seem really upset about it, and I'm sorry it has to be this way, but it has to be this way.