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    Originally Posted by Brian94 View Post
    How about the guy who tries to lower the dumbbells to the floor after a bench. Ah yes, thanks for not dropping the dumbbells and not making some minor noises--you've saved us all. In the meantime, you could risk injury to your shoulders or other muscles. I sure hope you have a dependable health insurance. Face it, if you're lifting over 40 pounds of dumbbells, you have to drop the weights after your sets-----
    Or you could get strong enough that you don't have to drop them. I can do db benches with 100's and I don't drop them and I know I'm not the strongest guy in my gym.
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    I read this article, and I think you yourself have a lot of learning to do. It seems to me that this article is just a rant, and an insult to these anonymous people you bring up under each point. And whats more obvious than that is the way you paint everyone with a broad brush. I don't doubt that you are making an effort to learn and better your self, but I think you have a lot of misconceptions.

    The dropping the weights issue: I see people doing this all the time, and I also see a lot of dumbbells being broken because of this. It's a pretty big inconvience to everyone else in the gym when you break one of the two 110 lbs dumbbells because you just threw it on the ground. Moreover, you said you are concerned with injury when you lower them down in a controlled manor; well if you are using proper body mechanics this should not be an issue....also if you are lifting weights that are too heavy for you to control you are risking injury more than I am when I set mine down.

    The cleaning issue: Man, you must have never gotten ring worm before, because if you had you would make sure to keep a relatively aseptic work space at the gym. And another thing to consider is the dangers associated with the spread of MRSA. It's always a good idea to clean the equipment that you and hundreds of other people use.

    People taking long breaks: Man, you don't know what that person is going through when he's in the gym. Maybe he had an terribly long and difficult day at work. At least he's in the gym hitting it. Maybe they have a million things on their plate, and they are working out almost solely as a stress reliever - and they still can't help but be distracted by all that.

    Doing too many reps: Wouldn't it be more beneficial to do more reps with proper form that it would be to throw more weight up with improper form? I see the stronger guys at my gym doing 20 + rep sets all the time. Obviously it is working for them.

    Chatting and giving advice: Man, I have learned so much from other people at the gym. I love when people come up to correct my form. In fact, one time a guy came up to shoot the breeze with me about working out and my form, when I was in the middle of my work out. Turns out after a few minutes of conversation this guy reveals to me that he is a Doctor...I'm sure glad I didn't write him off. And guys in jeans - don't judge them for their gym apparel - maybe he just got off work and has a busy evening and wants to get a quick work out in...you don't need a uniform to enter a gym. Even when older, heavier guys at the gym come up to you and give you advice don't write them off right away, you would be surprised how many of them were body builders and power lifters in their younger years. All I am saying is advice and critiquing is a huge component of the gym for me, it provides another means of bettering yourself.

    I don't mean to insult you in any way, I do understand what its like to look around and see people do silly things in the gym. However, I would suggest you be a little less focused on them and a little more focused on your work out. And if you feel that it would be in their best interest for them to change their actions, maybe politely talk to them about it - provide some legitimate advice, instead of posting a rant in a forum.
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    Negged brah, horrible advice. Listen to the guy above this post, he has it down. Mind your own business at the gym and worry about yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    Or you could get strong enough that you don't have to drop them. I can do db benches with 100's and I don't drop them and I know I'm not the strongest guy in my gym.
    ^^^^^^this, i hate people who drop them, attention seekers
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    this forum is Great stuff!

    1. only working out upperbody everyday/working out biceps every other day
    2. comming to the gym just to chit chat, osmosis doesn't work here. (10 min. breaks between sets)
    3. the 18 year old kid taking 3 different steriods (all you need is to eat and sleep)
    4. the 19 year old kid talking about how this isn't "his first rodeo" and explaining why he's taking 4 different steriods. (Just because you did something once doesn't make you an expert, your only hurting yourself even faster now.)
    5. if you say "this doesn't feel like it's working." it's probably not, ask someone or do some research the right form.
    6. trying to put up too much weight and not using correct form.
    7. not protecting your body, including stretching. Tomorrow isn't the day your going feel the effects of what you do today, it's when your 30 40 and 50 that it will start. I'm only 27 and I already wish I would of taken better care of my body when I was younger
    8. there are many different goals when it comes to working out. All them are not accomplished by doing the same thing.
    9. Even if you do 1,000,000 crunches a day your not going to have a 6 pack with all that fat covering them up.
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    im glad this post is made a sticky.....
    I made all these same mistakes when i was a beginner and wish i would have read this then. Hope noobs take this to heart if they plan on succeeding
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    nice post. i always enjoy these types of threads before heading off to the gym. especially the motivatio- i'll need that today...
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    Originally Posted by Brian94 View Post
    How about the guy who tries to lower the dumbbells to the floor after a bench. Ah yes, thanks for not dropping the dumbbells and not making some minor noises--you've saved us all. In the meantime, you could risk injury to your shoulders or other muscles. I sure hope you have a dependable health insurance. Face it, if you're lifting over 40 pounds of dumbbells, you have to drop the weights after your sets-----for those neurotic OCD people in the gym that don't like that, grow up, stop assuming you can control everyone and stop getting annoyed by every little thing or you'll live an unhappy life.
    Do this, problem fixed. And no more broken toes!



    Its really not that hard, even with heavy dumbells. I do it all the time
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    Most of my time was wasted by not eating enough calories. I spent $500+ on protein shakes and never made gains because I didn't have the macros to back it up. That's why I'm 6'6" 175lbs after 3 years of lifting. Feels like **** knowing I wasted all that time and money.
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    Only idiots throw the weights down, and 9 times out of 10 a person who does throw the weights down hasn't got proper form throughout their lift, resulting in them throwing the weight down as they can't handle the weight but they're ego tells them they can.
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    Originally Posted by Squaticus View Post
    Do this, problem fixed. And no more broken toes!



    Its really not that hard, even with heavy dumbells. I do it all the time
    that's the way I've always done it.
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    Originally Posted by Squaticus View Post
    Do this, problem fixed. And no more broken toes!



    Its really not that hard, even with heavy dumbells. I do it all the time
    That would be how I have always done it...at least similarly. I slowly lower them onto my chest/stomach then as I sit up I bring them to my legs. Then I stand up.

    No need whatso ever to dropping them.

    Here is WHY:

    Saw this about 4 months ago. There is a guy who goes to my gym who will do 1 ****ing dead lift using every 45lb plate in the gym and will walk around for 20 minutes after that. Same guy will grab the 90lb dumbells and do a flat chest press maybe 2 reps then toss the weight, and walk around like a psycho for 10 minutes.

    Basically same story higher weight, 1 maybe 2 reps, loud obnoxious guy then walk around for ten minutes. He usually does ONE set and then leaves. ****ing joke...all the while wearing a sweatsuit. Comical if it wasn't so annoying.

    Anyways reason to not drop the weight.

    So I watched this knucklehead do a flat bench with the 90lb dumbells. He finished and as he always does he dropped them. Well on a rubber floor sometimes they bounce. It bounced a few inches in the air but enough to land on a guy's foot a few feet over doing Arnold presses. Hit the guy in the foot ankle and the guys ankle swelled in about 2 minutes.

    So why should you not drop the weight?

    1) Not neccesary
    2) Obnoxious
    3) Dangerous
    4) If you can't safely control your weight stay out of that gym, you aren't the only one there.

    So this guy lost his membership and injured another guy. And it was totally unneeded.

    The same guy will come in cough and sneeze on every piece of equipment he touches and not wipe off anything. I am one of those people who do wipe of the machines...it is called common courtesy, and it is a great thing to do when taking a 2 minute break, Between exercises.
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    the simple fact of the matter is you are not big enough to be giving out this type of condescending advice. I was 5-8 153 in the 8th grade, you are a grown ass man at 22.

    You should be in the kitchen or in the gym, not on bodybuilding.com
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    overall good post! one problem i saw is that you can do more than 10-15 without endurance. For Instance I just began a 4 week cycle of German Volume Training which is 10 sets of 10 for one compound body part , doing three body parts a day but its not endurance but rather puts on size due to muscle confusion. Like I said , great read overall and was more interesting than the class I am in.


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    Good article. Also people who do the same bodypart every day.
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    Originally Posted by AwesomeTrain View Post
    I read this article, and I think you yourself have a lot of learning to do. It seems to me that this article is just a rant, and an insult to these anonymous people you bring up under each point. And whats more obvious than that is the way you paint everyone with a broad brush. I don't doubt that you are making an effort to learn and better your self, but I think you have a lot of misconceptions.

    The dropping the weights issue: I see people doing this all the time, and I also see a lot of dumbbells being broken because of this. It's a pretty big inconvience to everyone else in the gym when you break one of the two 110 lbs dumbbells because you just threw it on the ground. Moreover, you said you are concerned with injury when you lower them down in a controlled manor; well if you are using proper body mechanics this should not be an issue....also if you are lifting weights that are too heavy for you to control you are risking injury more than I am when I set mine down.

    The cleaning issue: Man, you must have never gotten ring worm before, because if you had you would make sure to keep a relatively aseptic work space at the gym. And another thing to consider is the dangers associated with the spread of MRSA. It's always a good idea to clean the equipment that you and hundreds of other people use.

    People taking long breaks: Man, you don't know what that person is going through when he's in the gym. Maybe he had an terribly long and difficult day at work. At least he's in the gym hitting it. Maybe they have a million things on their plate, and they are working out almost solely as a stress reliever - and they still can't help but be distracted by all that.

    Doing too many reps: Wouldn't it be more beneficial to do more reps with proper form that it would be to throw more weight up with improper form? I see the stronger guys at my gym doing 20 + rep sets all the time. Obviously it is working for them.

    Chatting and giving advice: Man, I have learned so much from other people at the gym. I love when people come up to correct my form. In fact, one time a guy came up to shoot the breeze with me about working out and my form, when I was in the middle of my work out. Turns out after a few minutes of conversation this guy reveals to me that he is a Doctor...I'm sure glad I didn't write him off. And guys in jeans - don't judge them for their gym apparel - maybe he just got off work and has a busy evening and wants to get a quick work out in...you don't need a uniform to enter a gym. Even when older, heavier guys at the gym come up to you and give you advice don't write them off right away, you would be surprised how many of them were body builders and power lifters in their younger years. All I am saying is advice and critiquing is a huge component of the gym for me, it provides another means of bettering yourself.

    I don't mean to insult you in any way, I do understand what its like to look around and see people do silly things in the gym. However, I would suggest you be a little less focused on them and a little more focused on your work out. And if you feel that it would be in their best interest for them to change their actions, maybe politely talk to them about it - provide some legitimate advice, instead of posting a rant in a forum.

    agreed, i'm always lifting after a long work day and sometimes ill forget to pack shorts in my bag or even forget to pack my sneakers so i just workout in my khakis or my loafers. im in the gym, im not going to leave because i dont look the part. i def found the OP to be a judgmental little *******.
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    Originally Posted by Brian94 View Post
    2) Doing too many reps. More work = more muscle right? Yes in weight sizes, not in amount of reps. Doing more than 15 reps on any exercise is actually endurance training. You're better off just doing a 4th or 5th set.

    3) Doing the same work out for over a year or simply not sweating. 2020 wrote a nice article on this, explaining that sometimes you need to change your routine so that your body doesn't get use to the same cardio or same weights/sets. The importance of failing in doing your exercises/weights is significant. You have to fail to see gains.

    Don't come to the gym, and do exercises, and leave without even breaking a sweat. If you're not sweating even in a cold gym---YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

    I had an average looking guy in JEANS... IN JEANS... in the gym... telling me how to do dumbbell flyes, when I had already looked up how to do it online years ago.
    2) How do you know what their fitness goals are.

    3) As long as you have linear progress, you don't need to change your workout. Hitting failure on your sets does SO much harm to your CNS.

    Why do you have to sweat? Since when did sweat= progress?

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    Don't see the problem with dropping weights a few feet from the ground to avoid wrist injuries. When I do the heaviest sets of dumbbell presses, I typically make sure no one is around and drop them about 3 feet from the ground, also making sure they don't roll away from me. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

    On the other hand, the people who intentionally toss dumbbells or barbells down to make noise and get attention annoy the hell out of me.
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