About SLEEP - You will be shocked.

[Agumon]

I must have been disturbed by something while I was in my last stage of a cycle before then, or maybe there was an excess of whatever neurochemical helps to block out your muscle movement because I distinctly remember a time in which I was fully aware of myself and surroundings but I could not move for about 10 seconds upon waking up.

Yup, REM brah.

I woke up this morn, knew it was the end of a cycle. But i went back to sleep, does this mean i'll wake up at the end of another cycle naturally or was that bad for me?

Yes, you'll wake up at the end of another one. Read my reply to Suplexdeath below.

ok so i should go to sleep without an alarm set and see how long i sleep and start setting my alarm for as long as i slept?

Yes, but then try subtracting 1 cycle and setting your alarm clock to that. Then, see whether you feel energetic all day. If you do, subtract again and see. Don't let your body sleep "on empty". = Time saved. = Profit.

[Suplexdeath]

Yes, but then try subtracting 1 cycle and setting your alarm clock to that. Then, see whether you feel energetic all day. If you do, subtract again and see. Don't let your body sleep "on empty". = Time saved. = Profit.

subtract one cycle? i thought each cycle would be different

also do your cycles get shorter as you get older?

[Agumon]

subtract one cycle? i thought each cycle would be different

also do your cycles get shorter as you get older?

What do you mean by "different"? Each cycle has 5 stages. Cycles repeat. So what I'm saying is, if you subtract one cycle from the total number of hours you've slept, and you still feel energetic throughout the day, then set your alarm clock to that time and not to the latter time.

I've never heard about cycles getting shorter as you get older, so my answer is no.

[AlphaRabbiT]

Very interesting! Thanks.

[whati]

i still think i feel better after a longer sleep

[Crash001]

Aasm dose not recognise stage 4 any more. You info is about 99% right and is written better than I coulda done awesome job + rep

Ps I'm a polysomnograph tech with to much experience

[Crash001]

What do you mean by "different"? Each cycle has 5 stages. Cycles repeat. So what I'm saying is, if you subtract one cycle from the total number of hours you've slept, and you still feel energetic throughout the day, then set your alarm clock to that time and not to the latter time.

I've never heard about cycles getting shorter as you get older, so my answer is no.

They do change you go though different stages at different lengths with rem becoming more and more lengthy

[Crash001]

If I may ask, how come I always wake up around the same hour? I've slept at 10:30, and have woken up at 9, but at the same time, I've also slept at 3 in the morning, and woke up 6 hours later. Any explanation?

Google sleep hygiene

Sleep hygiene is the most important thing everyone should work on if you go to bed and wake up around the same time your body is used to having that amount of sleep, there was a study done and they were trying to find out why people in prison gain mass so quickly. It was determined that they sleep and avg of 10 hours ( not always a good idea it depends on age and many other factors)
When the body enters rem it's releases hgh it repairs all the damage your body has encountered during the day so a little extra sleep on days that you lift harder then usual might help it also explains why you get so tired. Sorry kinda thread jacked but I'm board at work watching people sleep and their brain waves gets really boring.

[Agumon]

Aasm dose not recognise stage 4 any more. You info is about 99% right and is written better than I coulda done awesome job + rep

Ps I'm a polysomnograph tech with to much experience

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

They do change you go though different stages at different lengths with rem becoming more and more lengthy

You mean during life or one night? I was talking about life, but not too sure on that one.

[Mentoc]

THE IMPORTANT THING: There are 2 ways in which you can wake up. Full of energy and positivity or completely tired with a bad mood. These 2 are NOT a result of either sleeping more or less; they are a result of you either waking up at the end of a particular cycle, or cancelling a cycle by being interrupted by an external source.

So if I wake up naturally or automatically without any interruptions, that's when I'll have just successfully finished a cycle and I'll feel energetic and positive?

What about my alarm clock (an external source)? I have it set for 7:00AM daily. If it happens to ring during a cycle, you're saying I'm screwed and will wake up feeling "completely tired with a bad mood" regardless of how much sleep I got that night?

[Agumon]

So if I wake up naturally or automatically without any interruptions, that's when I'll have just successfully finished a cycle and I'll feel energetic and positive?

What about my alarm clock (an external source)? I have it set for 7:00AM daily. If it happens to ring during a cycle, you're saying I'm screwed and will wake up feeling "completely tired with a bad mood" regardless of how much sleep I got that night?

Yes and yes.

For your second question, even if you slept 20 hours and woke up, you'd feel bad at that moment. But during the day you'd have masses of energy. The cycles have to do with the waking up moment, overall daily energy is determined by the amount of sleep you receive.

[Mentoc]

Yes and yes.

For your second question, even if you slept 20 hours and woke up, you'd feel bad at that moment. But during the day you'd have masses of energy. The cycles have to do with the waking up moment, overall daily energy is determined by the amount of sleep you receive.

And how long does that moment last, 15 minutes - 1 hour? I'll bet you'd feel better after eating breakfast within an hour of waking up regardless of whether you landed on a cycle.

If I'll have masses of energy during the day due to my amount of sleep (8+ hours), why does this cycle stuff even matter?

[Agumon]

And how long does that moment last, 15 minutes - 1 hour? I'll bet you'd feel better after eating breakfast within an hour of waking up regardless of whether you landed on a cycle.

If I'll have masses of energy during the day due to my amount of sleep (8+ hours), why does this cycle stuff even matter?

Depends, usually 20 minutes or so.

It matters for tons of reasons, each being different for different people. For example, some people have major difficulties getting up; this would help them. Some people want to go for a short nap and exercise right after they wake up. Some people's habits mess up their biological clock so bad that they need this information to recover. This stuff changed my life, back in the day.

Your question has been asked before, if you want a more thorough answer, look up some of the older posts. Good luck.

[Mentoc]

K, guys. Lets all sleep until our bodies automatically wake us up without external interruption. It will be totally worth it because well feel good for 20 minutes or so.

[DarkBoss123]

Also i just wanna clarify:
Feeling good in the morning is because you woke up at the end of a cycle
Having energy throughout the day is because you got enough sleep, regardless of when you woke up.
Is this correct?

[Mata Leao]

so how can u fix if u woke up before a cycle finished? cause i went to bed last night... woke up a bit early today and felt good but since its a holyday decided to sleep a bit more but now i woke up tired as **** man... should i try going to sleep again or just forget about it

[NoobSocks112]

Such as people waking you up, traffic, wanting to pee etc. Have you not read the thread at all?!

If you sleep well for 2 weeks, the patches will go, although I am sure there are creams for it but there's no need; sleep will cure it.

Is there anything i can do concurrently with sleeping better in order to get rid of my dark circles. List as many health tips as possible.

[Mentoc]

Is there anything i can do concurrently with sleeping better in order to get rid of my dark circles. List as many health tips as possible.

Get 8 hrs of sleep
Minimize your salt intake
Drink plenty water
Minimize time behind the monitor

[DotheDew563]

Not sure if this has been asked already so I apologize but I would like to know what this is called.

You know when you sleep and sometimes you'll 'wake up' but your body is freakin paralyzed. I've had it happen to me once and at first I thought I was having a lucid dream but then I realized I could move my eyes. Couldn't control my breathing or anything, just complete paralysis. Lasted only like 5 mins though but it was pretty damn scary.

[KaleTheTank]

thats some good but practical information! thank you!

[ProGains]

I learned all of this in school in 9th grade. Don't they teach all 9th graders about sleep in science?

[Agumon]

K, guys. Lets all sleep until our bodies automatically wake us up without external interruption. It will be totally worth it because well feel good for 20 minutes or so.

If you weren't an ignorant phuck, you would read the other posts and see what problems other people are having and how this thread helped them. It's not about sleeping "until our bodies wake us up", this info has so much potential and flexibility, you would realise that if you had a brain. Would this thread get a sticky if it was that simple? No, it wouldn't. This is my final reply to you, GTFO.

Negged.

Also i just wanna clarify:
Feeling good in the morning is because you woke up at the end of a cycle
Having energy throughout the day is because you got enough sleep, regardless of when you woke up.
Is this correct?

Yes sir.

so how can u fix if u woke up before a cycle finished? cause i went to bed last night... woke up a bit early today and felt good but since its a holyday decided to sleep a bit more but now i woke up tired as **** man... should i try going to sleep again or just forget about it

If you think you got enough hours of sleep, forget about it .

Is there anything i can do concurrently with sleeping better in order to get rid of my dark circles. List as many health tips as possible.

http://www.getallabout.com/dark-spots-under-eye/

Not sure if this has been asked already so I apologize but I would like to know what this is called.

You know when you sleep and sometimes you'll 'wake up' but your body is freakin paralyzed. I've had it happen to me once and at first I thought I was having a lucid dream but then I realized I could move my eyes. Couldn't control my breathing or anything, just complete paralysis. Lasted only like 5 mins though but it was pretty damn scary.

You woke up in your REM stage, look at its effects in the thread. Nothing you should worry about.

thats some good but practical information! thank you!

No problem.

I learned all of this in school in 9th grade. Don't they teach all 9th graders about sleep in science?

No.

[Crash001]

You woke up in your REM stage, look at its effects in the thread. Nothing you should worry about.



No problem.



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How often dose this happen if more than once a month see a doctor it could be sighns of narcolepsy. Expecly if u feel tired alot. narcolepsy dose not mean u randomly fall asleep. It can be treated with meds doc will have you take an epworth test then figure ou the next step ( epwoth scale test is just answer 8 questions)

[Smoko]

This is amazing

[LightForce]

Great thread.

The trick is eliminating all those outside distractions that wake you up before your cycles are over...... stupid 8ams....

[Jiahao12]

very nice post.
I did an informative speech about sleeping cycles in my introduction to speech class.
As I was researching the topic, I learned that if we wake up during the the REM stage, our body will make up for it by having a longer period of REM the next time we sleep.
This might also apply if we do not get enough REM sleep.

Something like that... -_- i forgot what it said exactly.

[Agumon]

Great thread.

The trick is eliminating all those outside distractions that wake you up before your cycles are over...... stupid 8ams....

You said it ...

very nice post.
I did an informative speech about sleeping cycles in my introduction to speech class.
As I was researching the topic, I learned that if we wake up during the the REM stage, our body will make up for it by having a longer period of REM the next time we sleep.
This might also apply if we do not get enough REM sleep.

Something like that... -_- i forgot what it said exactly.

You are correct sir .

[Mustang_04]

that was pretty interesting thanks for posting it

[JustDoIt979]

makes so much since.. sometimes i will wake up around 6 feelin amazing, then go back to sleep and wake up around 8 by my clock and be super tired..

[64259025J7]

I see what you're asking, good question. I find that I also do what you do; but I don't think that's because the brain adapts. In my opinion it's to do with the "biological clock" where the body remembers the sleep patterns. I used to wake up before my alarm, I usually felt pretty stressed and I think that counts as an interruption because I subconsciously knew that the alarm was going to ring soon and my body knew the annoying feeling that occurs when it goes off, so I automatically woke up earlier. If you let the biological clock know that you're interrupted at 6:30AM everyday, it will remember that and IMO it will wake you up beforehand. So in a way, I guess you could say that the brain "adapts".

Really depends on whether you wake up energetic or tired. If you wake up at 6:15AM and you feel good, that must mean it's the end of a cycle, therefore just set your alarm to 6:15 or just go to sleep 15 minutes later (the previous day). If you wake up tired before the alarm like I used to, that must be because of nerves and subconscious fear of the alarm clock.

I would definitely have to agree with this. I would love the feeling of waking up and seeing the clock, realizing I still have "X" hours of sleep left until work/school. I'm guessing this would be, me coming out of a cycle. On the flip side I hate waking up just moments before my alarm goes off. Like you said, its our brain that "adapts" not so much the "cycles."