11-OXO Bridge

[ChristianLoving]

I've been reading around and debating what my first cylce is going to look like in the fall. I was wondering if anyone has any additional insight on this " 11-oxo bridge " that I've stumbled upon.

It basically states that instead of going directly into PCT you bridge 11-oxo in between your cycle and PCT. This would be done for 2-4 weeks. Now, the argument states that since 11-oxo is still steroidal, its not going to do nothing more than keep you just as supressed as you already are. This is the argument...like I said.

But the people that I've actually read TRYING it claim fantastic results. The main motivaton being that the 11-oxo allows the user to retain almost if not 100% of the gains from the cycle...while leaning the user out furthermore. I have found 5 different cycles where users lost ZERO gains after pct was complete when adding in the 11-oxo bridge.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

You must not have much faith in Triazole to already be considering a PH/AAS cycle.

[tylerdurden92]

I have done it before with a Havoc cycle and had really good results... It was my third cycle though... not sure I would get crazy with my first cycle

[TMac26]

You must not have much faith in Triazole to already be considering a PH/AAS cycle.

lulz.

[ChristianLoving]

You must not have much faith in Triazole to already be considering a PH/AAS cycle.

1. As I stated before, I don't need any supplement to make me bigger or stronger. I can very easily do that for free.

2. It's not my responsibility to have faith in Triazole. Simply to log it.

3. I've been brainstorming a every since I caught wind of DAA and it's possible effects during PCT. I'm more interested in this aspect than the actual cycle itself. But...if it's going to be done might as well get the most out of it.

[De__eB]

Standard
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –9: 6 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules twice a day with meals)
Week 10 -13: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

Blitz
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –8: 9 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules three times daily with meals)
Week 9 – 13: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

Tapered
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –8: 6 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules twice a day with meals)
Week 9 – 10: 3 capsules 11 OXO daily (1 capsule three times a day with meals)
Week 11- 14: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

[ChristianLoving]

I have done it before with a Havoc cycle and had really good results... It was my third cycle though... not sure I would get crazy with my first cycle

I want it to be as short as possible...3 weeks.

[ChristianLoving]

Standard
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –9: 6 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules twice a day with meals)
Week 10 -13: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

Blitz
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –8: 9 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules three times daily with meals)
Week 9 – 13: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

Tapered
Week 1 – 6: Steroids (or prohormones) of choice
Week 7 –8: 6 capsules 11 OXO daily (3 capsules twice a day with meals)
Week 9 – 10: 3 capsules 11 OXO daily (1 capsule three times a day with meals)
Week 11- 14: Post Cycle Therapy of choice

Thanks. I'm glad you found it again, because I lost it...lol. My goal is to set it up so that the entire thing is exactly 10 weeks long.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

I want it to be as short as possible...3 weeks.

You don't need supplements to get stronger or bigger bro.

[ChristianLoving]

You don't need supplements to get stronger or bigger bro.

That's kinda what I already said in post #5

[De__eB]

Thanks. I'm glad you found it again, because I lost it...lol. My goal is to set it up so that the entire thing is exactly 10 weeks long.

How do you end up at less than 12? month of each ph and a month of pct would be 12...

[ssouthbeach14]

I've been reading around and debating what my first cylce is going to look like in the fall. I was wondering if anyone has any additional insight on this " 11-oxo bridge " that I've stumbled upon.

It basically states that instead of going directly into PCT you bridge 11-oxo in between your cycle and PCT. This would be done for 2-4 weeks. Now, the argument states that since 11-oxo is still steroidal, its not going to do nothing more than keep you just as supressed as you already are. This is the argument...like I said.

But the people that I've actually read TRYING it claim fantastic results. The main motivaton being that the 11-oxo allows the user to retain almost if not 100% of the gains from the cycle...while leaning the user out furthermore. I have found 5 different cycles where users lost ZERO gains after pct was complete when adding in the 11-oxo bridge.

HCGenerate is the best PCT out there...

[ChristianLoving]

How do you end up at less than 12? month of each ph and a month of pct would be 12...

3 weeks on cycle
3 weeks on 11-oxo
4 weeks pct

[De__eB]

HCGenerate is the best PCT out there...

[De__eB]

3 weeks on cycle
3 weeks on 11-oxo
4 weeks pct

i'd go longer, but maybe that's just me.

What are you cycling with it?

[ChristianLoving]

HCGenerate is the best PCT out there...

I've already got every single one of those ingredients in mass quantities in my room...lol. I don't mind popping pills. Thanks though

[ssouthbeach14]

I've already got every single one of those ingredients in mass quantities in my room...lol. I don't mind popping pills. Thanks though

its not the same, you need the real deal stuff.. an IFBB pro told me about it...

[askem]

HCGenerate is the best PCT out there...

You serious?

[De__eB]

I've already got every single one of those ingredients in mass quantities in my room...lol. I don't mind popping pills. Thanks though

Is it weird that I have a temperature & humidity controlled room in my basement full of vast quantities of bulks?

[De__eB]

its not the same, you need the real deal stuff.. an IFBB pro told me about it...

[ssouthbeach14]

You serious?

ask dave palumbo

[jcosley]

Christian....you are always running something aren't you? You are worse then me!

[askem]

ask dave palumbo

Lolz

[De__eB]

ask dave palumbo

Dave Palumbo...like usinic acid Dave Palumbo?

Like...species nutrition Dave Palumbo?

Like being sued out of his mind for his products causing liver failure and requiring liver transplants Dave Palumbo?

[ChristianLoving]

i'd go longer, but maybe that's just me.

What are you cycling with it?

Would you beleive that my brother still has the ORIGIONAL unopened bottles of the old school red label SD? He's had a few bottles frozen since 2007. Phera-Plex as well, though I think he only got 4 bottles of that.

[ssouthbeach14]

Dave Palumbo...like usinic acid Dave Palumbo?

Like...species nutrition Dave Palumbo?

Like being sued out of his mind for his products causing liver failure and requiring liver transplants Dave Palumbo?

thats ok, you can hate on Dave..

[ChristianLoving]

Christian....you are always running something aren't you? You are worse then me!

Well, kinda? lol...

I'm always running test boosters, that's for sure but it's for medical reasons man...gimme a break! ;p

[askem]

Well, kinda? lol...

I'm always running test boosters, that's for sure but it's for medical reasons man...gimme a break! ;p

Wait, you take test boosters for medical reasons but you're gonna run some prohormones that will possibly shut down your test

[ChristianLoving]

Wait, you take test boosters for medical reasons but you're gonna run some prohormones that will possibly shut down your test

Yes.

Let's pretend you asked me to explain.

Some time from now, no matter what I do it's predicted I'll be on some type of hormonal therapy. Thirties...forties...who knows. For now I can keep the ball rolling with OTC supplements, but who knows how long that will last. I'm not affaid of this therapy and I'm not affraid of shut-down which happens from time to time anyway regardless of what I do. Due to patient privacy I can talk to my endocrinologist about anything. I don't make any moves without asking her opinion of it first.

[jcosley]

Well, kinda? lol...

I'm always running test boosters, that's for sure but it's for medical reasons man...gimme a break! ;p

Hey ...no judging from me brother!