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    UPDATE: *VID* Psycho Family Attempts to bring their mother home from hospital *VID*

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    "UPDATE::: Well, now according to her mom and grandma, she tried to kill herself, and has done it before. Her oldman and her both lied to me and said that she never did this before. I was only trying to help and I was misled. I do feel that hospitals need to better inform families what is going on. I called and apologized to the hospital, and will pay for their door."
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    Was the black guy the janitor? didn't look like security.
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    uuuuh.....

    If they decide to sue that hospital is screwed. It doesn't matter how sick or derranged a patient is the employees of a hospital have no right to detain paitents especially if the family is there trying to take them away.

    and that "security" dude was using too much force. I work in a hospital and unless the relative had a knife and was threatening people or something they have no right to even touch you.

    When patients leave without the consent of a doctor is called leaving AMA (against medical advise) As long as they have the paitents information (SS number etc) they are still getting their money for her stay in the facility.

    The hospital staff done goof'd in that situation.
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    What a bunch of white trash psychotic ass holes. I feel really bad for the kids. Stupid ass woman is using the kids as an excuse to not man up.

    Pro tip: This is not the way to handle your unhappiness with the hospital.

    "lets go press charges, lets go press charges" Charges of what? She signed an agreement to be there, dumb ass.

    Apparently the crazy white trash dad went for the black man's taser. I'd have thrown him to the ground too.
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    Originally Posted by my_whey View Post
    Was the black guy the janitor? didn't look like security.
    yeah more than likely. At my hospital we don't have people specifically hired for "security" per se, the janitors (we call them "Environmentalists") and maintenace guys act as security when needed.
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    Now I know nothing about the laws on this at all. But if I had to guess they could absolutely not make her stay there. All of them are gonna be fire, and if they aren't then they should be.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    uuuuh.....

    If they decide to sue that hospital is screwed. It doesn't matter how sick or derranged a patient is the employees of a hospital have no right to detain paitents especially if the family is there trying to take them away.

    and that "security" dude was using too much force. I work in a hospital and unless the relative had a knife and was threatening people or something they have no right to even touch you.

    When patients leave without the consent of a doctor is called leaving AMA (against medical advise) As long as they have the paitents information (SS number etc) they are still getting their money for her stay in the facility.

    The hospital staff done goof'd in that situation.
    Yes but they went right up to the room and tried to take her.. shouldn't they have to sign some type of paper work? It seems that family went about this the absolute worst way possible.
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    Originally Posted by strong007 View Post
    What a bunch of white trash psychotic ass holes. I feel really bad for the kids. Stupid ass woman is using the kids as an excuse to not man up.

    Pro tip: This is not the way to handle your unhappiness with the hospital.

    "lets go press charges, lets go press charges" Charges of what? She signed an agreement to be there, dumb ass.

    Apparently the crazy white trash dad went for the black man's taser. I'd have thrown him to the ground too.
    Dude, hospitals are not what you see in the movies. There are no overly built guys wandering the halls in white lab coats with sedatives to capture patients trying to leave without consent.

    they can do whatever they want regardless of what was signed.

    that hospital is in serious trouble.
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    Originally Posted by Dan916 View Post
    Yes but they went right up to the room and tried to take her.. shouldn't they have to sign some type of paper work? It seems that family went about this the absolute worst way possible.
    yes there's paperwork but those are all formalities. I'm not sure where that hospital is but if your family comes into our hospital in California and trys to physically remove their relative there's nothing you can do about it.

    It doesn't matter if the paitent is in ICU hooked to drips and tubes if the relatives want them to leave then they can leave. The Charge nurse then fills out an AMA (against medical advise) leave slip and puts it in the patients file that file is sent to medical records where they are billed for any amenities they may have used and that is the end of the story.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    uuuuh.....

    If they decide to sue that hospital is screwed. It doesn't matter how sick or derranged a patient is the employees of a hospital have no right to detain paitents especially if the family is there trying to take them away.

    and that "security" dude was using too much force. I work in a hospital and unless the relative had a knife and was threatening people or something they have no right to even touch you.

    When patients leave without the consent of a doctor is called leaving AMA (against medical advise) As long as they have the paitents information (SS number etc) they are still getting their money for her stay in the facility.

    The hospital staff done goof'd in that situation.
    I dont know if things are completely different in the States or what... but in Canada if a doctor puts you on a 'form' you are more or less legally detained, and do not have the right to leave the hospital (this is usually in psych. wards with patients who have showed suicidal tendencies)
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    Now I know nothing about the laws on this at all. But if I had to guess they could absolutely not make her stay there. All of them are gonna be fire, and if they aren't then they should be.
    This. anyone that tried to detain her, the black guy tussling with the relative (BIG no-no) the people that carried her away, they're done.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Dude, hospitals are not what you see in the movies. There are no overly built guys wandering the halls in white lab coats with sedatives to capture patients trying to leave without consent.

    they can do whatever they want regardless of what was signed.

    that hospital is in serious trouble.
    Totally makes sense. Glad someone knew exactly what can and can't be done. Guarantee this family will have some news coverage and couple people are gone from in that hospital. I don't believe the family wanted to leave without paying, they just wanted her out of there so they didn't have to pay anymore. Also weren't planning on not paying, but that's probably what the hospital's going to say.
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    Originally Posted by dontHACKme View Post
    I dont know if things are completely different in the States or what... but in Canada if a doctor puts you on a 'form' you are more or less legally detained, and do not have the right to leave the hospital (this is usually in psych. wards with patients who have showed suicidal tendencies)
    yeah canada's different.

    If she was trying to sneak away on her own then they have the right to detain her but if the family is physically trying to remove her then "defanitly" no.
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    Originally Posted by Grimbo13 View Post
    Totally makes sense. Glad someone knew exactly what can and can't be done. Guarantee this family will have some news coverage and couple people are gone from in that hospital. I don't believe the family wanted to leave without paying, they just wanted her out of there so they didn't have to pay anymore. Also weren't planning on not paying, but that's probably what the hospital's going to say.
    getting money from her is not the point. They've already got the money as soon as they got her first and last name, her home address and social security number, and all of that information is obtained the day she's admitted.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    uuuuh.....

    If they decide to sue that hospital is screwed. It doesn't matter how sick or derranged a patient is the employees of a hospital have no right to detain paitents especially if the family is there trying to take them away.

    and that "security" dude was using too much force. I work in a hospital and unless the relative had a knife and was threatening people or something they have no right to even touch you.

    When patients leave without the consent of a doctor is called leaving AMA (against medical advise) As long as they have the paitents information (SS number etc) they are still getting their money for her stay in the facility.

    The hospital staff done goof'd in that situation.
    What if the patient was deemed an immediate danger to herself or others?
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    im gonna rage if+when this family gets a settlement.. they're not right in the head even if the hospital did a nono. They're the type that go cause chaos and get it all on film just waiting for a mishap to happen so they can get paid.
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    no one even read the story...
    she has epeliptic seizures and she had one while cooking. she cut her arms while seizuring and they took her to the hospital to be checked after having a seizure. then the dr. decided she tried to commit suicide despite them telling her she had a seizure. The hospital is probably hugely fukt here and that guard might be looking at battery charges. He's luck the guy was beta and didn't break his face.
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    Originally Posted by Dan916 View Post
    im gonna rage if+when this family gets a settlement.. they're not right in the head even if the hospital did a nono.
    it is simply holding someone against their will and against the law, kidnapping. They will get a settelement, but probably in the 50,000 range. It could be more if it can be proved the Dr. was negligent in first diagnosing the 'suicide attempt'.
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    Originally Posted by Dan916 View Post
    im gonna rage if+when this family gets a settlement.. they're not right in the head even if the hospital did a nono.
    Really? If a hospital tried to detain my Mother, I would probably use deadly force to stop them, if necessary.
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    Originally Posted by markusjj85 View Post
    What if the patient was deemed an immediate danger to herself or others?
    detaining patients (no matter what state they are in) is not the objective of hospital employees.

    If the relatives come in to take their psychotic deranged loved one then the staff has no say in the matter. End of story.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Dude, hospitals are not what you see in the movies. There are no overly built guys wandering the halls in white lab coats with sedatives to capture patients trying to leave without consent.

    they can do whatever they want regardless of what was signed.

    that hospital is in serious trouble.
    Even in a military hospital the doctor following major surgery wouldn't stop me from walking outside to smoke. He knew it was good to be up and walking, and if the incentive to do it was to go smoke so be it. (difference in the military is he actaully could have ordered me not to smoke, but there is no equivalent in the civilan world to that)
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    Originally Posted by SoggyDoughnut View Post
    They will get a settelement, but probably in the 50,000 range. It could be more if it can be proved the Dr. was negligent in first diagnosing the 'suicide attempt'.
    oh its going to be much higher than that regardless of the doctors diagnosis. Our hospital has been sued for millions because nurses have lost their cool with patients and cursed them out.
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