Eating a dozen whole eggs a day alright?

[Brawndo89]

Well if I do start eating a dozen whole eggs a day, which I plan on doing, after 10 weeks or so, can I just go get some blood work done to see how my body is responding? or will that not show the whole story?

I had a physical with blood work last thursday, so maybe I could compare the results of that blood work, with the blood work I'd be getting if I ate a dozen eggs a day for 10 weeks?

Yes that would show the whole story. High cholesterol levels are what is dangerous. If your blood cholesterol level stays the same after ten weeks of eating 84 eggs a week then you're fine. No arguments from me there.

[Brawndo89]

The harvard health article has nothing to do with anything.

"Fact: Eggs have a lot of cholesterol. The average large egg contains 212 milligrams of cholesterol. As foods go, that’s quite a bit, rivaled only by single servings of liver, shrimp, and duck meat."

Yes, eggs have a lot of cholesterol. Fact. But nowhere on that page does it say dietary cholesterol leads to high blood cholesterol (except for diabetics). That is of course until you start to read the Myth section.

And your second article, most likely written by some journalist who thinks they know everything about nutrition and myths. Get some actual research and articles made by scientists and doctors with PHDs and then we'll talk

edit: and obviously there isnt going to be an article specifically telling you that eating 84 eggs a week is fine. The main issue here is the amount of dietary cholesterol intake with correlation to blood cholesterol.

The articles are relevant because they say that eggs aren't the devil, but they say "sure you can eat a few eggs a day." Nowhere does any article say eat as many eggs as you can fit down your throat.

[FunkMasterPhil]

The articles are relevant because they say that eggs aren't the devil, but they say "sure you can eat a few eggs a day." Nowhere does any article say eat as many eggs as you can fit down your throat.

Nowhere in that article does it say you cant eat that many eggs either which means that doesn't disprove our point then does it? Which is why that article does nothing for your argument either.

[MAX.MAREK]

I'm bulking right now at 3000 cals a day and 220g protein, and I would never eat 84 eggs a week. In fact I eat maybe 5 eggs a week. I don't really care for eggs, and I'd rather get my protein from fish, chicken, nuts, greek yogurt, etc.

well dude, maybe u should be open minded to this...instead of thinkin "this is bad for u" bla bla bla. cause obviously he is trying to do, what YOU should be doing aswell...at 6'4" 185lbs, ur pretty thin, and need to EAT aswell. 3000cal is NOT a bulk diet for someone of ur height, and genetic profile (ectomorph), you should be more like 4000-5000cals. 84eggs per week may sound insane to you, but also doesnt 1000g+ carbs per day sounds insane as well? but we do it still, and get results. im just sayin, be open minded, especially when many in this thread see the REAL POSITIVES in eggs.

its like me saying to you, 'stay away from fish...MERCURY!!!! the NEWS and FDA and ADA said so!' haha....we still eat fish. i enjoy it. and would always recommend fish.

eggs are pure, and nothing wrong can go wrong with em. now..lol if u add SALT to each of those 12 eggs, then thats a problem....that causes heart disease, not eggs.

[FunkMasterPhil]

Whatever, never wanted to start this argument over again anyways, I've read enough of these debates on this forum. Think what you wish, I'm out.

[MAX.MAREK]

12 whole eggs a day would be too much cholesterol IDC wtf any1 in this thread says. It's not broscience...cholesterol=terrible for you. If it were 12 egg whites then that's a different story. If you eat 12 whole eggs a day then you're retarded.

high cholesterol can lead to heart disease, heart attacks, and stroke. come at me.

edit: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condit...12_Article.jsp

eggs are not mentioned. adding salt to those eggs will cause HD, Heart attacks, stroke, etc.

[Brawndo89]

well dude, maybe u should be open minded to this...instead of thinkin "this is bad for u" bla bla bla. cause obviously he is trying to do, what YOU should be doing aswell...at 6'4" 185lbs, ur pretty thin, and need to EAT aswell. 3000cal is NOT a bulk diet for someone of ur height, and genetic profile (ectomorph), you should be more like 4000-5000cals. 84eggs per week may sound insane to you, but also doesnt 1000g+ carbs per day sounds insane as well? but we do it still, and get results. im just sayin, be open minded, especially when many in this thread see the REAL POSITIVES in eggs.

its like me saying to you, 'stay away from fish...MERCURY!!!! the NEWS and FDA and ADA said so!' haha....we still eat fish. i enjoy it. and would always recommend fish.

eggs are pure, and nothing wrong can go wrong with em. now..lol if u add SALT to each of those 12 eggs, then thats a problem....that causes heart disease, not eggs.

I just got done cutting down to get a six pack showing and I'm tryin to keep it, so yeah 3k might not be a huge BULK diet, but I have no problem putting on size slowly and keeping my abs. Maybe I'm just nervous with a family history of heart disease and other heart problems, but I just can't consume that much cholesterol. And in my case, I already have high cholesterol as it is I don't think I need an extra 84 eggs a week to pile onto it. Also no 1000 carbs doesn't scare me bring on the microbrew beer brah :-p

edit: I'm also out. Opinions are opinions. I've had all I have to say about eggs so good luck to OP I hope they work for you.

[MAX.MAREK]

I just got done cutting down to get a six pack showing and I'm tryin to keep it, so yeah 3k might not be a huge BULK diet, but I have no problem putting on size slowly and keeping my abs. Maybe I'm just nervous with a family history of heart disease and other heart problems, but I just can't consume that much cholesterol. And in my case, I already have high cholesterol as it is I don't think I need an extra 84 eggs a week to pile onto it. Also no 1000 carbs doesn't scare me bring on the microbrew beer brah :-p

well ur cholesterol sensitive then.....which i have research and read up on. and that is NOT your fault, especially when its genetically bound to ur family tree. we all have to look after numero uno, ourselves, and your doing that ur being smart about YOURSELF. but try to be openminded when others arent in your situation. maybe i was wrong, maybe ur not a ecto..dunno, dont see pics of u...but maybe OP is...and this is something HE NEEDS TO DO to shock his system to growth mode. never know

hahah im talkin about 1000g of 'good' carbs hahahahaha not 'FUN' carbs haha

[MuscleGuruGuy]

OP shouldn't you get good fats and more carbs in you diet...


Oh and about the cholesterol

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.co...olesterol.html

[Brawndo89]

well ur cholesterol sensitive then.....which i have research and read up on. and that is NOT your fault, especially when its genetically bound to ur family tree. we all have to look after numero uno, ourselves, and your doing that ur being smart about YOURSELF. but try to be openminded when others arent in your situation. maybe i was wrong, maybe ur not a ecto..dunno, dont see pics of u...but maybe OP is...and this is something HE NEEDS TO DO to shock his system to growth mode. never know

hahah im talkin about 1000g of 'good' carbs hahahahaha not 'FUN' carbs haha

From what I understand about ectomorphs is that theyre very slim in the waist and have narrow shoulders. My shoulders are very wide set and my waist is a 35-36 (yeah I dno why so big there is no fat there). I just cut down to super low body fat, and for some reason when I up to 4000 calories my waistline explodes.

[MAX.MAREK]

From what I understand about ectomorphs is that theyre very slim in the waist and have narrow shoulders. My shoulders are very wide set and my waist is a 35-36 (yeah I dno why so big there is no fat there). I just cut down do super low body fat, and for some reason when I up to 4000 calories my waistline explodes.

ectos have hard time putting on weight.
http://www.maxmusclefitness.com/ectomorph.php

meso can build muscle fast, and size, but need to watch it or they will put on fat easy.
http://www.maxmusclefitness.com/mesomorph.php

endos cant burn fat easy, and hold a lot of weight on their bodies.
http://www.maxmusclefitness.com/endomorph.php

these are the main characteristics that ppl need to observe about themselves.

[sk84]

12 whole eggs would be alright I guess. Maybe make half of those whole eggs? I dunno, I'm no expert but I'd rather get my fat intake from better sources (natty pb, fish oil, almonds), but I don't think it's a HUGE deal. I eat 12 eggs when im cutting (3-4 whole while the rest are egg whites). Some days I go as high as 16 eggs a day. Only problem is that I gotta brush my teeth SO much. And yeah...the gas...lol

[isdatzo]

Systematic review of the scientific literature shows little evidence for an association between high consumption of eggs and CVD, unless your diabetic. However, high consumption mostly equals > 1 egg/day in these studies.
No matter what anybody tells you, nobody knows what such large amounts will do to your body.

Reference: Hoenselaar R. Eggs and cardiovascular disease. Canceranddiet.nl. http://canceranddiet.nl/cardiovascul...ease/eggs.html

[GetShredded]

Eat the crap out of those eggs son!

[sfgiantsfan79]

If I ate a dozen a day I would never leave the bathroom. Hell even one egg does me in.

[TheBig3]

My cholesterol for today = 1312 mg...about 1000mg over what is "recommended" lol

[CharH06]

Yes that would show the whole story. High cholesterol levels are what is dangerous. If your blood cholesterol level stays the same after ten weeks of eating 84 eggs a week then you're fine. No arguments from me there.

no, high cholesterol does not mean anything unless u look at all the subsets of the HDLs and LDLs. The only reason cholesterol and saturated fats are such a big issue in todays society is cuz there are soo many companies that are profitting from brain washing people into believing this non-sense. Do u really think sumthing we have been taking in in large ammounts through out our evolution, sumthing that is used in the production of hormones, building of cells, carrying of many vitamins and minerals has sumhow turned out to be bad for us now? ITS ALL A BIG LIE. Wut is doing damage is hydrogenated oils/trans fats every1 is eating from all that processed food.

Read "the cholesterol myth" and "good calories bad calories" and many of the other books published by world renowned authors who have actually done a great deal of research on this subjects.

[Dths]

Hello lipid hypothesis how I do enjoy the misinformation you have spread. Eggs actually lower cholesterol with what little effect they have, dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on blood cholesterol.

The liver produces far more cholesterol then you can even fathom to ingest in a day and when you do ingest it your liver just lowers the amount it makes unless you have a predisposition to high cholesterol in which case you will have it high no matter what.

Oh and the ONLY noticable effect you can have on blood cholesterol is increasing or decreasing HDL/LDL/VLDL in which case eggs increase HDL and help your body process LDL

the body needs it to synthesize HDL in the liver. HDL is considered a protective cholesterol carrier, since it helps ferry cholesterol out of the blood and back to the liver, where excess cholesterol is degraded into bile, then eventually excreted from the body.

Lecithin is also required for the liver synthesis of another lipid carrier in the blood, very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL), which transports triglycerides. That may explain the old idea that choline, which is found in lecithin, helps burn fat. What it actually does is help transport fat in the blood.

Lecithin is also required for the liver synthesis of another lipid carrier in the blood, very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL), which transports triglycerides. That may explain the old idea that choline, which is found in lecithin, helps burn fat. What it actually does is help transport fat in the blood.

Lecithin is so vital to the liver’s processing of fat that a cardinal sign of lecithin deficiency is fat buildup in the liver. The fatty liver can lead to the death of liver cells, which in turn results in a type of scar tissue, or fibrotic accumulation, in the liver called cirrhosis. In a worst case scenario the cirrhotic condition predisposes the liver to cancer, one of the consistently fatal forms of the disease.

European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (52:419-424; 2003).

What food do you think naturally contains the most Lecithin? Oh right, egg yolks.

High blood cholesterol has been proven to cause heart disease, dietary cholesterol has been consistently proven to have no effect on blood cholesterol

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[yummumamanda]

It’s not good for health taking dozen eggs daily. You can take 7 to 8 and I think it’s enough.

[Masi23]

Your Farts are going to be Epic.

And when i mean Epic i mean Deadly.

[dustinlima]

inafterwastingtimereadingthread

12 MEDIUM EGGS OR 12 EXTRA LARGE EGGS?
GRADE AA OR B???
BROWN OR WHITE??
ORGANIC OR NO?


yes please eat all

[FunkMasterPhil]

Calling out chunkyfatboy ... strong username to occupation to thread context

How am I wrong? PLEASE .. enlighten me Mr. Accountant, you're in no position to neg anyone. I was simply quoting information from the articles Brawndo89 cited and proving how they did not back up his argument nor did it disprove ours.

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negged right back at ya for being an ignorant *******.

[Rimmer66]

Wow ! Nice reading.... An egg lover myself, and it's great to see people like to read alot, but studies are flawed and incomplete. They have rights and wrongs. There is no universal answer on how many eggs you should eat or not eat, because you need to consider some risk factors before you make up an answer. So just saying yes, it is safe to eat 12 eggs a day, is a very bad approach.

It is important to understand WHAT causes cholesterol in your blood stream in the first place and the biggest source of cholesterol is your liver, it also acts as a REGULATOR. Now with people with a NORMAL health and normal function, the liver will auto regulate its production of cholesterol, producing less as you eat foods higher in cholesterol and producing more the other way around. The normal healthy body regulates this to keep the right amount of cholesterol and this is why some people eat foods rich in cholesterol and get some blood work done and their levels are well within healthy levels, yet some people are carefula nd have high cholesterol. It's all about the liver.

ALSO, keep in mind there is GOOD cholesterol which is the High Density Lipoproteins (HDL) which helps sweep/clean out, and the BAD cholesterol which is the Low Density (LDL). People who are healthy and very active and exercise have higher HDLs than people who are overweight and underactive.

As long as you are healthy and have a healthy liver and your cholesterol level is checked and within safe levels, you don't need to be concerned about the cholesterol from food. Of course "ABUSE" of anything is bad. Cholesterol is the least of your concern at this point as you want to avoid SATURATED fats and the killer TRANS FAT.

Now about the liver and production of cholesterol, think of it as a safety valve that gradually shuts down and switches on as needed. In some people, there is an IMABALANCE in how the body produces cholesterol and the liver keeps producing the same amount or more cholesterol instead of less, and if it is your case, you should avoid as much as possible foods high in cholesterol and you certainly cannot eat 12 eggs a day let alone 4. In your case your doctor (a competant one not an IDIOT) would help you get on the right path depending on YOUR specific health condition. If you have cholesterol problem and other health risks such as diabetes, etc, you really need to rethink your "eggs" and other foods high in cholesterol eating habits (seafood, liver, meat, etc.)

Now for all you healthy body building peeps around here assuming you are healthy, you probably have a healthy level of HDLs Do regular checkups and make sure you get your HDL/LDLs and udnerstand the healthy ratio between total cholesterol / HDL /LDL and if your doctor gives you the green light, you can keep enjoying those eggs, but don't abuse !

[squizzlewizzle]

Too much eggs causes saturated fat buildup in your brain that causes strokes n stuff (my school health teacher told me cuz zhse saw me eating a hard boiled egg in her class, i pack them as snacks for school) because of all the cholesterol so i wodul take that advice ando nly eat a few a day...

[Steve27]

Too much of any food is harmful, including eggs. 12 eggs a week is about as much as you should have. Eggs aren't the only food on the planet, how about and try a thing called VARIETY instead of obsessing over one food. It's funny how there are sooooo many threads with young guys picking a food they think is a 'super food' and eating it to obsessive amounts as if that will help you in any way.You dont need to read studies, just use common sense, something that is long forgotten in the bodybuilding world.

It's not just about cholesterol and heart disease, eggs are a very rich food. If your eating 12 eggs a day theres a good chance your not eating a balanced diet and enough other foods such as fruits, veges, beans and legumes, nuts and seeds etc etc. You would be too full to eat many other foods.

Having a huge amount of one food doesn't do anyone good. As they always say, balance is the key, however with the bodybuilding lifestyle being so obsessive over certain nutrients and foods, balance is rarely achieved.

[trance__dreamer]

LOL just like they recommend 50g protein, 300g carbs and 2000mg of sodium for person per day right? ya lol they know what they're talking about ALWAYS lol

lololololololol.

if i say it in espanol, will the protein make me 10x swoler?

[erek4]

I have been eating about 6 eggs per day: 3 whole eggs and three egg whites.

One thing we all have to take into consideration is that everyone's body is different to a certain degree. Some people may be able to handle more cholesterol than others, and therfore, can eat more eggs.

What we should be telling each other is to go to our physician and get our cholesterol checked every once and awhile, and if your cholesterol level is acceptable at that point than slowly raise your egg count!!! And if your cholesterol is high, then drop some egg yolks.

To just cram egg after egg without seeing how 'your' body is handling those ingredients is, in my opinion, dangerous. Definately get a checkup so you can eat with confidence.

Good luck everyone and stay healthy

[BookMonkey]

I'm not saying to go crazy on eggs, but at 20-25g of protein per egg, that is a great deal considering I pay $1 per dozen. If I were to neglect the fat content, I'd be getting my daily protein needs $0.66 a day if I were to only ever eat eggs for my protein.

Just sayin'.

But really, not everyone reacts to eggs the same way. Cholesterol may not be the primary issue for most people, but fat might be. Especially considering your other daily fat intake. Sure, eating 5 eggs may seem great, but if you're drinking bacon fat along side it, then maybe not so. You can't base your daily diet on one food item alone.

[erek4]

Book Monkey, I am in agreeance with your second paragraph but no so on the first. Are you eating ostridge eggs to get 25 g per egg?!!!

Here is the protein count of eggs relative to their size and also w/ and w/o the yolk:

Size of Egg Grams of Protein Grams of Protein

(whole egg including yolk) (White Only)

Small 4.8 2.7

Medium 5.5 3.2

Large 6.3 3.6

Extra Large 7 4

Jumbo 7.9 4.6


(resource: ezinearticles.com/?How-Much-Protein-is-in-an-Egg?&id=2707602)

V/r,

Erek

[tgo007]

If 12 eggs a day is okay, how bout 24 eggs a day? 36? At some point, you can have too much of anything.

I have no clue if 12 a day is good long term. I think the better decision would be to eat a more balanced diet. Replace some of those eggs with whey, meat, cottage cheese,