Best National Universities of 2011 (Just released today)

[kel_varnsen]

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...ities-rankings




Top 25.... feelsgoodman

never understood the fascination with universities' overall ranking in the us. wouldn't the quality of the specific program be far more important?

[PumpedPecs]

rofl you guys pay almost 40k a year?

we pay like $5k in the UK and we have a better overall standard of unis and harder exams

brb needing 70% to pass an exam whereas UK its 40%, i.e if you get 80% in the UK you're a god but 80% in the states is meh

multiple choice questions LOL

feels better man

is this real life?

do UK universities accept americans often?

[FlexLex]

Top 132 feelsalrightman

[NCK MIZ]

never understood the fascination with universities' overall ranking in the us. wouldn't the quality of the specific program be far more important?

There really shouldn't be. It doesn't really do much for undergrad. Perhaps the top 10 schools carry some weight, but the difference between a #25 school and a #75 school will most likely mean next to nothing in a potential employment setting. It is more of a bragging thing. That you were smart enough to get into a top school.

[Lanesra]

#13 here brahs.. Johns Hopkins in January


come at me brahs... am i the highest so far?


feelsgoodman

No, you're not.

[datboigene]

oh for sure radiologists make bank. ****'s competitive though huh?

bmore isn't that bad as long as you're not wandering the city at night. anywhere is chill during the day but stick to campus at night....even though there was a drive by shooting by the dorms the second week of school last year. and lots of people are on that nerdy time at hopkins brah so no worries there

SUPER COMPETITIVE BRAH.. i'm competing against radiologists with experience who had retired, but decided to come back or ones who've decided to switch and do more residency/fellowships... i'm effed brah


brb studying 16 hours a day and still failing my exams, but the people said it'll be worth it....


i've already got a headstart by working with various diagnostic radiologists, rad oncologists, and nuc med physicians.. hopefully i've learned alot from them

drive by shooting by the dorms? is this real life?


brb passing all my exams and getting killed during graduation.



what are you planning on doing brah? oh and my sister went to Columbia for Med


feelsbadman

[Stopdroproll]

oh for sure radiologists make bank. ****'s competitive though huh?

bmore isn't that bad as long as you're not wandering the city at night. anywhere is chill during the day but stick to campus at night....even though there was a drive by shooting by the dorms the second week of school last year. and lots of people are on that nerdy time at hopkins brah so no worries there

Try Philadelphia, robbery, stabbings, shootings, home invasions, rape, assault, and **** like that all the time around campuses.

[cell technical]

Vanderbilt - #17
USC - #25
NYU - #33
OSU - #56
CUB - #86
DU - #86

All the schools I'm applying to.

[HYDRAE]

rofl you guys pay almost 40k a year?

we pay like $5k in the UK and we have a better overall standard of unis and harder exams

brb needing 70% to pass an exam whereas UK its 40%, i.e if you get 80% in the UK you're a god but 80% in the states is meh

multiple choice questions LOL

feels better man

US institutions sh!t all over your country. You are talking about your a$$.

http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

[tino124]

Furman #41 Liberal Arts

[HYDRAE]

Furman #41 Liberal Arts

being good at liberal arts is like being the tallest midget.

[ilicet51]

US institutions sh!t all over your country. You are talking about your a$$.

http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

Only because scores on PUB..

PUB
Total number of papers indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index in 2009. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered. When calculating the total number of papers of an institution, a special weight of two was introduced for papers indexed in Social Science Citation Index.

[Dro3]

SUPER COMPETITIVE BRAH.. i'm competing against radiologists with experience who had retired, but decided to come back or ones who've decided to switch and do more residency/fellowships... i'm effed brah


brb studying 16 hours a day and still failing my exams, but the people said it'll be worth it....


i've already got a headstart by working with various diagnostic radiologists, rad oncologists, and nuc med physicians.. hopefully i've learned alot from them

drive by shooting by the dorms? is this real life?


brb passing all my exams and getting killed during graduation.



what are you planning on doing brah? oh and my sister went to Columbia for Med


feelsbadman

damn...well best of luck man if you're working that hard you'll succeed for sure.

yeah there used to be an 18+ club behind one of the freshman dorms and **** happened, me and some friends were on our way back from a party and we were like wtf did we get ourselves into haha

i'm a neuroscience major, no idea what specialty i wanna eventually do just trying to keep dat dere GPA up knowwhatimsayin

[wannabedruglord]

2nd tier not on the list da fuk ?

[HYDRAE]

Only because scores on PUB..

PUB
Total number of papers indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index in 2009. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered. When calculating the total number of papers of an institution, a special weight of two was introduced for papers indexed in Social Science Citation Index.

notsureifsrs

here is the methodology

http://www.arwu.org/ARWUMethodology2010.jsp


Alumni
The total number of the alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals. Alumni are defined as those who obtain bachelor, Master's or doctoral degrees from the institution. Different weights are set according to the periods of obtaining degrees. The weight is 100% for alumni obtaining degrees in after 1991, 90% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1981-1990, 80% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1901-1910. If a person obtains more than one degrees from an institution, the institution is considered once only.

Award
The total number of the staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics and Fields Medal in Mathematics. Staff is defined as those who work at an institution at the time of winning the prize. Different weights are set according to the periods of winning the prizes. The weight is 100% for winners in after 2001, 90% for winners in 1991-2000, 80% for winners in 1981-1990, 70% for winners in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for winners in 1911-1920. If a winner is affiliated with more than one institution, each institution is assigned the reciprocal of the number of institutions. For Nobel prizes, if a prize is shared by more than one person, weights are set for winners according to their proportion of the prize.

HiCi
The number of highly cited researchers in 21 subject categories. These individuals are the most highly cited within each category. The definition of categories and detailed procedures can be found at the website of Thomson ISI.

N&S
The number of papers published in Nature and Science between 2005 and 2009. To distinguish the order of author affiliation, a weight of 100% is assigned for corresponding author affiliation, 50% for first author affiliation (second author affiliation if the first author affiliation is the same as corresponding author affiliation), 25% for the next author affiliation, and 10% for other author affiliations. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered.

PUB
Total number of papers indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index in 2009. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered. When calculating the total number of papers of an institution, a special weight of two was introduced for papers indexed in Social Science Citation Index.

PCP
The weighted scores of the above five indicators divided by the number of full-time equivalent academic staff. If the number of academic staff for institutions of a country cannot be obtained, the weighted scores of the above five indicators is used. For ARWU 2010, the numbers of full-time equivalent academic staff are obtained for institutions in USA, UK, France, Canada, Japan, Italy, China, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, South Korea, Czech, Slovenia, New Zealand etc.

[sups31]

lmao 170...feels okay man

[eXcelerate]

this is true.

A better source is the ARWU. They use the most objective criteria to rank respective universities.

http://www.arwu.org/index.jsp

that site is fail. northeastern isnt even in the top 100 on that list.

[Magikfridge]

University of Minnesota .. Rank 64. Feels alright man.

you mad uw madison is better and beats you errytime

[ilicet51]

notsureifsrs

here is the methodology

http://www.arwu.org/ARWUMethodology2010.jsp


Alumni
The total number of the alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals. Alumni are defined as those who obtain bachelor, Master's or doctoral degrees from the institution. Different weights are set according to the periods of obtaining degrees. The weight is 100% for alumni obtaining degrees in after 1991, 90% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1981-1990, 80% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for alumni obtaining degrees in 1901-1910. If a person obtains more than one degrees from an institution, the institution is considered once only.

Award
The total number of the staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics and Fields Medal in Mathematics. Staff is defined as those who work at an institution at the time of winning the prize. Different weights are set according to the periods of winning the prizes. The weight is 100% for winners in after 2001, 90% for winners in 1991-2000, 80% for winners in 1981-1990, 70% for winners in 1971-1980, and so on, and finally 10% for winners in 1911-1920. If a winner is affiliated with more than one institution, each institution is assigned the reciprocal of the number of institutions. For Nobel prizes, if a prize is shared by more than one person, weights are set for winners according to their proportion of the prize.

HiCi
The number of highly cited researchers in 21 subject categories. These individuals are the most highly cited within each category. The definition of categories and detailed procedures can be found at the website of Thomson ISI.

N&S
The number of papers published in Nature and Science between 2005 and 2009. To distinguish the order of author affiliation, a weight of 100% is assigned for corresponding author affiliation, 50% for first author affiliation (second author affiliation if the first author affiliation is the same as corresponding author affiliation), 25% for the next author affiliation, and 10% for other author affiliations. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered.

PUB
Total number of papers indexed in Science Citation Index-Expanded and Social Science Citation Index in 2009. Only publications of 'Article' and 'Proceedings Paper' types are considered. When calculating the total number of papers of an institution, a special weight of two was introduced for papers indexed in Social Science Citation Index.

PCP
The weighted scores of the above five indicators divided by the number of full-time equivalent academic staff. If the number of academic staff for institutions of a country cannot be obtained, the weighted scores of the above five indicators is used. For ARWU 2010, the numbers of full-time equivalent academic staff are obtained for institutions in USA, UK, France, Canada, Japan, Italy, China, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, South Korea, Czech, Slovenia, New Zealand etc.

Exactly, PUB and PCP go hand in hand. Cambridge would be 2nd, slightly behind Harvard if they took a different approach toward that. UK schools have different goals as an institution than American schools. A lot of your students transfer away from top tier schools to get into Oxford. The most prestigious scholarship in the world is the Rhode's scholarship. I left UofM for a UK school and I received a better education in a month than in 2 years at UofM. I'm not saying a UK school surpasses Harvard, but I'd put them on the same ground. I'd rather go to Harvard Med than Oxford med though.

[derekk1]

UIC - 143

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wtf do the scores mean? rank is obvious, but i dont understand score.

[PushUp08]

Tier 1. I'll take it.

[Stopdroproll]

What are the tiers? I think I saw like tier 3 uni's ranked higher than some tier 1.

[Firepanda]

US institutions sh!t all over your country. You are talking about your a$$.

http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

what are you talking about more like, that list hasnt got any credibility, it puts uni of manchester, nottingham, birmingham in top 100? rofl

and if you look that chart completly disagrees with whats in the OP

american unis are known as a joke here in the UK from people who have done semesters abroad, all you can rely on is an internet chart

i'm sure you're happy with your easier exams though while we bust our asses getting a real education

[Fuerza]

i'm sure you're happy with your easier exams though while we bust our asses getting a real education

I take it you passed all your OWLs?

anyway.

#124.

Hey at least we got #2 party school

[bryans989]

#35 (Georgia Tech). And my hometown an hour away is also home to the #1 party school in America (UGA).

[folly412]

#75, transferred from #45. Can only compare basic core curriculum classes between the two and they were much more intense at the second one. But lack of research programs probably hurts a ranking in general and according to the methodology poor schools get shafted and our endowment sucks.

Methodology is interesting: http://www.usnews.com/articles/educa....html?PageNr=1

brb donating my savings to school to break the tie
brb getting my high school guidance counselor fired

[TighTWhipS]

#30- UNC Chapel Hill

Feels kind of good man.

[xplicid01]

Go buffs!
Rank 86 University of Colorado--Boulder Boulder, CO

lol at 86 percent acceptance rate.

[ajn]

Top 5. Come at me *******.

[HYDRAE]

what are you talking about more like, that list hasnt got any credibility, it puts uni of manchester, nottingham, birmingham in top 100? rofl

and if you look that chart completly disagrees with whats in the OP

american unis are known as a joke here in the UK from people who have done semesters abroad, all you can rely on is an internet chart

i'm sure you're happy with your easier exams though while we bust our asses getting a real education

okay captain. I'll take the 'internet chart' with a published methodology from a real organization over some random British dude's internet opinion based on nothing but heresy.