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    Originally Posted by SweetSweatTV View Post
    I have been studying moomiyo for 2 years and have found nothing but good evidence about its effectivness. I have taken through out the last 2 years and love everything about it. The overall well being it gives you to the incredible workouts and recovery that it allows me to acheive. There has been a lot of studies on it from russia, but many people try to discredit it for no reason. I think it has to go with the normal standards now days, because anything man made is better than mother nature which is totally wrong. People discredit it because of the complexity , and the uncomprehension behind it's mecahanisms. I would like to hear some feedback.

    Moomiyo is a dark, bitter-tasting resin exuded from rock in certain mountain areas of Central Asia. The natural processes that create Moomiyo are complex and still somewhat mysterious, but it is primarily concentrated plant sedimentation that has interacted with minerals in the surrounding rocks.

    Key nutrients in Mumio include Fulvic acids, Humic acid, humin and hymatomelanic acid. In addition there are more than 50 micro-nutrients including polyphenols, essential oils, amino acids, B-complex vitamins, fatty acids and bioavailable ionic minerals.

    The Russians have been researching the properties of Moomiyo for over 90 years. They believe it works in 4 main ways:

    1. Adaptogenic
    Adaptogens are natural substances that increase the body's resistance to stress and fatigue. Many regard Altai Moomiyo as the most powerful adaptogen known.

    During training and competition you experience severe physical and mental stresses. Moomiyo helps your body to cope and re-energise.

    As an adaptogen it is thought that Moomiyo chemically bonds with hormones related to stress, helping to minimise the negative effects.

    2. Anabolic
    Moomiyo supports the natural development of muscle and strength. American and Russian tests show significant improvement in lean muscle mass for strength athletes and natural bodybuilders using Moomiyo.

    It seems that Moomiyo protects naturally occurring sex hormones from oxidation, making them more available to promote muscle growth in response to strength training.

    3. Anti inflammatory
    Moomiyo is an important anti-inflammatory in traditional Asian medicine, and Russian athletes have long valued its ability to reduce muscle and joint soreness.

    Recent research by Russian and Korean scientists has shown that fulvic acid fractions from Moomiyo are potent scavengers of superoxide radicals, which would help account for Moomiyo's anti-inflammatory properties.

    4. As a general tonic
    For thousands of years and in many cultures, Moomiyo has been highly prized as a general tonic and remedy. Modern research indicates that Moomiyo may indeed have a role to play in the healing of many ailments, from knitting broken bones to fighting cancer.

    To provide these widespread benefits, Moomiyo must be supporting the body in fundamental ways.

    As an example, let's take just one ingredient: Fulvic Acid.

    Clearly, effective mineral metabolism is vital for health and many people suffer from deficiencies. Moomiyo supplies a range of bioavailable minerals, and it seems the Humic and Fulvic acids in Moomiyo work together in complex ways to support the uptake of these minerals (and other nutrients) by the cells.

    Other reported benefits of Fulvic Acid include:

    Increasing metabolism of proteins, contributing to DNA and RNA synthesis Restoring electrochemical balance, improving cell functioning Increasing activity of many enzyme systems, supporting a wide range of biochemical processes Supporting immune system function, reducing the risk of infection.
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    Originally Posted by SweetSweatTV View Post
    I have been studying moomiyo for 2 years and have found nothing but good evidence about its effectivness. I have taken through out the last 2 years and love everything about it. The overall well being it gives you to the incredible workouts and recovery that it allows me to acheive. There has been a lot of studies on it from russia, but many people try to discredit it for no reason. I think it has to go with the normal standards now days, because anything man made is better than mother nature which is totally wrong. People discredit it because of the complexity , and the uncomprehension behind it's mecahanisms. I would like to hear some feedback.

    Moomiyo is a dark, bitter-tasting resin exuded from rock in certain mountain areas of Central Asia. The natural processes that create Moomiyo are complex and still somewhat mysterious, but it is primarily concentrated plant sedimentation that has interacted with minerals in the surrounding rocks.

    Key nutrients in Mumio include Fulvic acids, Humic acid, humin and hymatomelanic acid. In addition there are more than 50 micro-nutrients including polyphenols, essential oils, amino acids, B-complex vitamins, fatty acids and bioavailable ionic minerals.

    The Russians have been researching the properties of Moomiyo for over 90 years. They believe it works in 4 main ways:

    1. Adaptogenic
    Adaptogens are natural substances that increase the body's resistance to stress and fatigue. Many regard Altai Moomiyo as the most powerful adaptogen known.

    During training and competition you experience severe physical and mental stresses. Moomiyo helps your body to cope and re-energise.

    As an adaptogen it is thought that Moomiyo chemically bonds with hormones related to stress, helping to minimise the negative effects.

    2. Anabolic
    Moomiyo supports the natural development of muscle and strength. American and Russian tests show significant improvement in lean muscle mass for strength athletes and natural bodybuilders using Moomiyo.

    It seems that Moomiyo protects naturally occurring sex hormones from oxidation, making them more available to promote muscle growth in response to strength training.

    3. Anti inflammatory
    Moomiyo is an important anti-inflammatory in traditional Asian medicine, and Russian athletes have long valued its ability to reduce muscle and joint soreness.

    Recent research by Russian and Korean scientists has shown that fulvic acid fractions from Moomiyo are potent scavengers of superoxide radicals, which would help account for Moomiyo's anti-inflammatory properties.

    4. As a general tonic
    For thousands of years and in many cultures, Moomiyo has been highly prized as a general tonic and remedy. Modern research indicates that Moomiyo may indeed have a role to play in the healing of many ailments, from knitting broken bones to fighting cancer.

    To provide these widespread benefits, Moomiyo must be supporting the body in fundamental ways.

    As an example, let's take just one ingredient: Fulvic Acid.

    Clearly, effective mineral metabolism is vital for health and many people suffer from deficiencies. Moomiyo supplies a range of bioavailable minerals, and it seems the Humic and Fulvic acids in Moomiyo work together in complex ways to support the uptake of these minerals (and other nutrients) by the cells.

    Other reported benefits of Fulvic Acid include:

    Increasing metabolism of proteins, contributing to DNA and RNA synthesis Restoring electrochemical balance, improving cell functioning Increasing activity of many enzyme systems, supporting a wide range of biochemical processes Supporting immune system function, reducing the risk of infection.
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    interesting.. And I'm always up to try something new.
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    and any of that is relevant to BODYBUILDING?
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    I used this when i first started around 14 years ago. I can't remember the company that made it but they called it Mumie, they also made a protein powder called M-Stuff.
    It was taken at 2 capsules daily for 15 days with 10 days off.
    There are a few companies that sell Moomiyo at different strengths and have used a few. They still advise taking it for around 2 weeks and take 2 weeks off. I wouldn't say it is a great anabolic product but it does aid recovery. It is also relativley cheap to use too.
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    Heres some more info :

    Mumie has been used in the folk medicine of different countries for almost two thousand years. In Russia, serious research has been conducted on Mumie since 1910. There, Moomiyo is considered a strategic material and is used extensively as a performance enhancer within the armed forces (Spetnaz, and other elite fighting groups), to help prepare cosmonauts before and during space travel, and as an important part in national and Olympic-level athletic programs.

    In order to locate the origin of the word Mumie, one must go back 2,500 years. The ancient philosopher and scientist Aristotle proposed the first procedures for preparing and utilizing the compound. Mumie is often used to treat bone fractures, strains of muscles ligaments, stomach disorders, nervous and cardiovascular problems, inflammation of joints, and impotence. It is a good bio-stimulator and serves to elevate the immune system and regulate neuro-hormonal levels. The most recent survey of the practical applications of Mumie have come from Moscow through the efforts of Dr. A.A. Altamyshev and Dr. B.K. Kortshubelkov, and this survey is supported by the Russian committee of cosmonautics. To date, several hundred investigations have been conducted on Mumie which clearly show its actions on the body and its usefulness. In sport, Mumie is prized for its tonic and anabolic effect. According to many coaches inside the Russian national program, a budget of five million rubles was allocated for research on Mumie as a natural anabolic for the preparation of athletes for the 1988 Olympic games in Seoul.

    Climatic conditions play an important role in the formation of Mumie. Also, the Tajikistan republic, where Moomiyo originates, is home to over 6,500 different plants, over half of which are not found anywhere else in the world. This great variety of highly bio-active material, combined with the proper climate (temperature, light, and moisture), results in the development of Mumie. From the ceilings of high mountain caverns hang black stalactites having the characteristic smell and bitter taste of Mumie. For this reason, Mumie has been referred to as "mountain tear", "blood mountain" and "balsam of rock". It is the end product of the lush plant life at the crest of the mountains. Moomiyo is only collected from the floors of caverns, and because it accumulates no more than twice a year, Mumie is a rare find. A kilo of extract may require the collection of many raw kilograms over a period of one month.

    Short term cycles are all that is necessary to enjoy the stimulating (restorative and anabolic) effect of Mumie in sport. These cycles are often repeated after a break. The effects include the activation of the anabolic process in different organs and systems (blood, liver, skeletal muscles, lymphatic system, central and peripheral nervous systems, skin and hair, and gastro-intestinal tract). Because of its growth-promoting ability, Mumie has become extremely popular among Russian and other East-European athletes. Mumie is commonly introduced during periods of high-intensity training and in recovery. One good example of the successful use of Mumie was its application by the 1992 Olympic champion in hammer throw, Andrey Abduvaliyev. Andrey is a native of Dushanbie, the capital of Tadjikistan - home of the highest-quality Mumie in the world (Barlowe's Moomiyo Extract is from Tadjikistan). Andrey's pharmacology and nutritional program focused on Mumie as the major bioactive supplement.

    There is one other aspect of the application of Moomiyo to sports and general health, which relates to the fact that it is a strong adaptogen. Like other adaptogens, Mumie can be effective at preventing age-related hormone-dependent disorders and so, should be strongly considered as a nutrient for non-competitive athletes who participate in fitness programs. It has been postulated (A.V. Blagovestshensky, Kologrivova, 1985) that the stimulating attributes of Mumie relate to its high content of dicarbonic acids (succine, glutamic and aspartic). These bioactive compounds appear in the final substance as a result of oxidative deamination of amino acids during the lengthy formation of Mumie (V.A. Vib, 1981). The same mechanism is thought to be responsible for Mumie's outstanding anti-inflammatory and healing effect. It is very beneficial at reducing the joint soreness of knees, shoulders and elbows of athletes.

    Research Ref :

    1. Abu Ali Ibin Syna, The canon of physician's science. Tashkent, 1956.
    2. Altamyshev A.A., The medicinal treasure of Kirgizia (of natural origin). France, 1976.
    3. Altamyshev A.A., Kortshubekow B.K., What we know about Mumie. Moscow, 1989.
    4. Anitshkov S.V., The selective action of transmitters. Leningrad, 1974.
    5. Bosse G., The vitamin plants and their nutritional application. Moscow, 1943.
    6. Voinar A.O., The biological role of microelements in the organisms of animal and humans. Moscow, 1953.
    7. Wolf E.V., The world resources of beneficial plants. Leningrad, 1969.
    8. Zelinsky S.S., The medicinal plants in the USSR. Moscow, 1958.
    9. Kovaleva N.G., Healing by plants. Moscow, 1971.
    10. Mashlovsky M.D., The medicinal compounds. Moscow, 1992.
    11. Nuraliev Y., Denisenko H., Mumie and its medicinal properties. Dushanbe, 1997.
    12. Syrova N.M., Revealing the secrets of Mumie. Tashjent, 1969.
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    Originally Posted by Mickfootie View Post
    I used this when i first started around 14 years ago. I can't remember the company that made it but they called it Mumie, they also made a protein powder called M-Stuff.
    It was taken at 2 capsules daily for 15 days with 10 days off.
    There are a few companies that sell Moomiyo at different strengths and have used a few. They still advise taking it for around 2 weeks and take 2 weeks off. I wouldn't say it is a great anabolic product but it does aid recovery. It is also relativley cheap to use too.
    Hey man, I remember that company... Atletika. I also took Mumie and stacked it with another product of theirs called Retibol. I have no idea about the legitimacy of their products, but they had awesome packaging!
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    i took a supplement called annadrall didnt produces any gains but recovery was excellent i chalk that up to the shilajit in it.
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    Interesting, a thread about Mumijo.

    I can only confirm what has been said already - it will support workouts and help you recover much faster.

    I was introduced to the stuff when in Russia - my brother-in-law is a colonel of Speznaz, the elite of the Russian Special Forces. He told me the men use it to increase stamina and endurance and to build resistance.

    Being a martial artist I was interested so I bought some of the stuff. Back home I started taking it and was impressed with the effect - it indeed helped me recover MUCH faster from workouts and increased my endurance and stamina significantly. So I was able to push my limits more.
    When you have an intensive training regime, you can get sick more often because of the physical stress: you are pushing your limits all the time. A cold, the flu, you don't want that. Mumijo also helped me there - since I started taking it the worst that happened to me was a runny nose for a few days. No flu, no fever. What more do you want ? The working ingredients are e.g. fulvic acid, which acts as a fertilizer: it helps your body to absorb nutritients MUCH faster and utilize them more efficient.

    I am using the real stuff BTW - a black paste-like substance, not the tablets/capsules and tinctures - often these are fake or are inferior to the raw paste due to the processing involved in making tablets etc. (Like, you're not supposed to heat it up or use metal with it). I make a 30% water solution (30% Mumijo / 70% water) and keep that in the fridge. One teaspoon of this before breakfast is enough. I combine it with a teaspoon of honey to mask the awful smell and taste (like bitumen mixed with very bitter chocolate and **** !!). That works well.

    At first I had problems finding the real stuff, since Russia does not allow it to be exported,considering it a 'strategic good'. My wife's family send me a few packages through the mail, but they got into trouble because of that. Big brother is still watching you over there!
    I finally found a reliable seller online, not cheap but excellent quality Mumijo. They also have a large collection of background articles in case anybody wants to go that far. If you Google 'ORIVEDA Mumijo' you'll find them for sure.

    So yeah, I do recommend the stuff. All natural and no side effects. It also appears to increase the effectiveness of other supplements BTW.
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    Shilajit is one of the things i mean to try
    Ayurvedic medicine often times supports the use of some rather interesting compounds however, this one always struck me as odd [especially if taken on a chronic basis]. Mumiyo/shilajeet is comprised of many organic/inorganic substances and was even considered to be an adaptogenic however, I do recall some spectrographic analysis data indicating radioactivity [probably of a low degree]. Nonetheless, I'm sure in this day and age we can utilize much more effective substances in the absence of radionuclides & potential heavy metal toxins.
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    What I like about the real stuff is that is 100% natural, has no side effects and will also support your resistance against diseases.
    There is a reason why those Russians are still using it together with the more common scientifically composed supplements you find everywhere in drugstores etc: Olympic athletes, cosmonauts and the Speznaz elite forces all include it in their training / diet schedules.
    I always like to go to the bottom of things and found in research papers that it is close to impossible to process it (like including it in some supplement or turning it into tablets etc) without seriously killing a lot of the active ingredients. So I stick to the real stuff.

    As for those radioactive ingredients, yes, they are present, barium, cesium, strontium and more, as microscopic trace elements, and also heavy metals like lead are present, again, as trace elements. The body needs these occasionally, and the quantity is just right for those needs.
    I remember that some time ago in Canada Shilajit-supplements from Dabur, an Indian manufacturer, were banned because they contained too much heavy metals. In Ayurvedic medicine it is believed that adding those is beneficial for restoring the balance. There is not scientific proof for this at all, but still, they add it. I would recommend to stay away from those.
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    Ayurvedic medicine often times supports the use of some rather interesting compounds however, this one always struck me as odd [especially if taken on a chronic basis]. Mumiyo/shilajeet is comprised of many organic/inorganic substances and was even considered to be an adaptogenic however, I do recall some spectrographic analysis data indicating radioactivity [probably of a low degree]. Nonetheless, I'm sure in this day and age we can utilize much more effective substances in the absence of radionuclides & potential heavy metal toxins.
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    It's refreshing to see a company go to extremes to ensure the quality/safety of their products.
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    On a side note, it would be interesting to analyze the amount of barium, fluorine, iodine, aluminium, iron, ect. from various mumiyo finished products.

    In context with the high potassium content in mumiyo, the low degree of radioactivity is apparantly due to the presence of a radioactive potassium isotope however, there doesn't seem to be much cause for concern [from the little I've read].
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    root of the matter dot com has it at 40% extract for cheap
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    root of the matter dot com has it at 40% extract for cheap
    That website is one of the most hilarious i've seen in a looong time. Original 1997 retro!!

    Apart from that, I don't believe for a second he sells genuine mumio. I smell a biiig rat. How can you make an ultra concentrated extract of an ultra concentrated extract ? Just wondering..
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    Red face what do you guys think about this website's products?

    They have a lot of hard to find herbal supplements I'm interested in buying.. I just don't know if anybody has bought anything from them? Do they sell legit stuff or not?

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    another website

    this one has similar products , like moomiyo for sell in bulk...
    fourgreensteps.com/marketplace/Amazon-Discovery-Moomiyo.html
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    timing combining

    does anyone know a optimal time too take moomiyo, or noticed a difference (pre,post)?

    does taking it with protien starch or sugar make a difference?


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    Originally Posted by conan1071 View Post
    root of the matter dot com has it at 40% extract for cheap
    But does it work? I keep seeing all the places listed for all these products, but nobody saying that they bought it and it's good, lol.
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    Like I wrote earlier, it does work, increases your endurance and helps you recover much faster.
    It will also support your immune system which might suffer from severe workouts.

    BTW, here's an analysis of what can be found in mumijo. Don't forget that since it is a natural product, there is no standardized formula possible!! This is the analysis of the stuff oriveda(dot)com is selling - I'm using it and it is great, although it smells disgusting and is a bit of a hassle to use (one has to make a water solution)

    Elementary composition of Mumijo

    Hydrogen (H) - 5.0%
    Carbon (C) - 41,3%
    Nitrogen (N) - 5,3%
    mkg/g
    Potassium (K) 57800
    Molybdenum (Mo) 8
    Calcium (Ca) 27470
    Boron (B) 4
    Magnesium (Mg) 14797
    Silicon (Si) 50 mg
    Phosphorus (P) 102
    Zinc (Zn) 180
    Barium (Ba) 205
    Selenium (Se) 0.5
    Natrium (Na) 1075
    Vanadium (V) 12.8
    Iron (Fe) 230
    Zirconium (Zr) 0.03
    Aluminium (Al) 1280
    Manganese (Mg) 51
    Titanium (Ti) 51
    Tungsten (W) 0.2
    Nickel (Ni) 10
    Cobalt (Co) 0.2
    Chromium (Cr) 67
    Beryllium (Be) 0.01
    Bismuth (Co) 0.03

    Amino acids in mg/%
    Aspartic acid (K) 0.33 Cysteine 0.001
    Hydroxyproline 0.29 Methionine 0.02
    Threonine 0.03 Isoleucine 0.05
    Serine 0.09 Leucine 0.1
    Glutamic acid 0.41 Tyrosine 0.3
    Glutamin 0.001 Phenylalanine 0.01
    Proline 0.38 Ornithine 0.001
    Glycine 2200 Lysine 0.03
    Alanine 0.05 Histidine 0.04
    Valine 0.07 Arginine 0.32
    Organic acids content in mg/%
    Benzoic acid 270
    Hippuric acid 204
    Humic acid 204
    Hematomelanic acid 96
    Oxalic acid 57
    Tartaric acid 73
    Kojic acid 28
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    I have gotten great results from Moomiyo. I used to have this pinching pain in my left elbow when doing bench press. 2 days on Moomiyo, and the pain is gone. Its a definite product for those who want faster recovery from intense workouts. Which Moomiyo is everyone on here taking? I noticed the quality varies quite a bit between the brands. I have been taking Moomiyo by Prosport Nutrition with good results.
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