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08-20-2012, 10:34 PM #7651
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08-20-2012, 10:46 PM #7652
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08-21-2012, 01:08 AM #7653
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08-21-2012, 01:40 AM #7654
- Join Date: Sep 2008
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- Rep Power: 42606
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08-21-2012, 02:00 AM #7655
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08-21-2012, 02:13 AM #7656
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08-21-2012, 02:15 AM #7657
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08-21-2012, 02:35 AM #7658
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08-21-2012, 06:28 AM #7659
I liked the vid, nice job putting it in simple terms
I noticed you talked about how those lifters in russia have less stress in the terms of things external to lifting. How big of a factor can say cramming for finals or drinking all night have on your work capacity or ability to perform in your opinion? I know it varies but if you could just talk about it a bit that would helphttp://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172642181
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08-21-2012, 11:42 AM #7660
I am the zyzz of the periodization
I like to think of it like this. (this would actually be pretty fun to make a video about)
I strongly believe in a concept called ego depletion. There is considerable scientific data to support its existence, and combined with my experiences, I am going to train as if its scientific fact.
Pretend you have a giant bowl full of a liquid somewhere within your body. This liquid is what enables your body to push through very difficult mental and physical goal oriented challenges, but every time you do one of these challanges, your supply diminishes. As your supply diminishes, your ability to "will" yourself to do something diminishes significantly and proportionally to the lost supply of this liquid. Every time you do a 20 rep squat set for example, you are depleting this supply. So in essence, this liquid is responsible for what you call "will power".
Now obviously this is an extreme reductionism of the concept, and the actual logistics here are way more in depth. There is some evidence that glucose may be one of these substrates responsible for motivation, and if I have time I might find the studies. Interestingly enough, social influences have an effect as well, positive reinforcement improves cognitive performances on concentration or will power related tasks as well, which I think is probably due to phenomenon that occur at the cellular level within the brain. It wouldn't surprise me if through some mechanism that neurons are able to uptake greater amounts of glucose in the presence of this reinforcement.
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08-21-2012, 12:28 PM #7661I strongly believe in a concept called ego depletion. There is considerable scientific data to support its existence, and combined with my experiences, I am going to train as if its scientific fact.
Pretend you have a giant bowl full of a liquid somewhere within your body. This liquid is what enables your body to push through very difficult mental and physical goal oriented challenges, but every time you do one of these challanges, your supply diminishes. As your supply diminishes, your ability to "will" yourself to do something diminishes significantly and proportionally to the lost supply of this liquid. Every time you do a 20 rep squat set for example, you are depleting this supply. So in essence, this liquid is responsible for what you call "will power".
Now obviously this is an extreme reductionism of the concept, and the actual logistics here are way more in depth. There is some evidence that glucose may be one of these substrates responsible for motivation, and if I have time I might find the studies. Interestingly enough, social influences have an effect as well, positive reinforcement improves cognitive performances on concentration or will power related tasks as well, which I think is probably due to phenomenon that occur at the cellular level within the brain. It wouldn't surprise me if through some mechanism that neurons are able to uptake greater amounts of glucose in the presence of this reinforcement.http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172642181
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08-21-2012, 12:41 PM #7662
A threshold limit as in a set amount that ANY person can attain? No, its definitely something that varies from person to person. However, every person definitely has their own set limit as to what they can achieve.
You have to keep in mind that even though you feel you can do more when you're active, this doesn't equate to do you ACTUALLY being able to do more. Like I said, social interaction and positive reinforcement also have to shown to "replenish" this bowl of liquid. Now, this may sound a little spiritual and ghey, but its explanation is purely scientific in nature, I promise. Different neural circuitry and neurotransmitters are active/released when you experience these positive emotions, so they very well might aid in replenishing the liquid.
This moves me to the next point. Just like glycogen/ATP/fatigue resistance, you most likely CANT build up a significantly large store of this substrate than you were born with. However, you almost definitely CAN adapt in a way that causes your body to replenish the lost supply a lot faster. So in that sense, your capacity to do hard stuff can increase exponentially without actually needing more of this liquid.
You need to keep in mind that this liquid/substrate is a real substance/substances and that it takes up space and weight in the brain. It would not be efficient to store massive amounts of it.
Let me know if I am being too scientific in explaining or not scientific enough.
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08-21-2012, 12:43 PM #7663
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08-21-2012, 12:44 PM #7664
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08-21-2012, 01:48 PM #7665
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08-21-2012, 01:51 PM #7666
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08-21-2012, 03:05 PM #7667
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08-21-2012, 03:09 PM #7668
Hypertropification
Decline bench
New idea
135x10
205x8
275x1
315x8 <--- only got 1 extra rep out of it, not really worth it
365x1 ..... too tired from 315 set, wanted 3-4
275x10
275x8
185x12
DB incline
50x3x12
Overhead extensions
120x15
140x12
160x10
190x8 (this was as heavy as the stack went)
reverse flys
?x15
?x2x10
Pull ups
x12
x10
x7 wide
x6 wide
thoughts
idk
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08-21-2012, 03:23 PM #7669
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08-21-2012, 03:33 PM #7670
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08-22-2012, 01:48 AM #7671
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Nearly 10 reps with 315 on decline = strong man. Keep at it man, hows recovery so far? I suppose with relatively low intensity it wouldnt be too much of an issue
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08-22-2012, 02:20 AM #7672
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08-22-2012, 03:03 AM #7673
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08-22-2012, 06:25 AM #7674
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- Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
- Age: 31
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RE: overtraining
Do you think that most people who take a week off because they are 'overtrained' are actually overtrained, or underadapted. For example if they just pushed through being 'overtrained' (as they call it) for a few weeks / months / however long, wouldn't their body adapt. This is in regards to people who lift 3 to 4 times a week, not those olympic lifters maxing out twice a day.
Also is it even possible to overtrain lifting 3 times a week? How about twice a week? etc.Sheiko Training Log!!!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147680953
PB's / GOAL's (end of 2012)
S: 336x1 / 397x1
B: 198x1 / 237x1
D: 440x1 / 468x1
T: 976 / 1102
Bodyweight
MAY 2011 - 67.8kg (149.5lbs)
APR 2012 - 85.6kg (188.7lbs)
AUG 2012 - 76.1kg (167.8lbs)
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08-22-2012, 06:57 AM #7675
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08-22-2012, 08:36 AM #7676
Nevermind I'll just look it up.
In your latest video, you should've emphasized that the taller person has more potential for strength because they can put on more mass and then train that mass to be efficient. Retards might interpret it as you saying that taller people are automatically stronger.Planted like a tree beside the river of truth.
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08-22-2012, 10:03 AM #7677
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08-22-2012, 08:16 PM #7678
equal frames = taller person automatically stronger
Its theoretically possible to overtrain in 10 minutes once a week, it has nothing to do with the amount of days you train.
Training through overtraining is retarded, you can't become less overtrained by overtraining even more.
thanks IjewO
No *******, only decline bench forever
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08-22-2012, 08:22 PM #7679
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08-23-2012, 03:35 AM #7680
- Join Date: Jul 2011
- Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
- Age: 31
- Posts: 737
- Rep Power: 342
I think we misunderstood eachother. I more meant are people 'overtrained' or just 'overreaching' for a while.
Sheiko Training Log!!!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147680953
PB's / GOAL's (end of 2012)
S: 336x1 / 397x1
B: 198x1 / 237x1
D: 440x1 / 468x1
T: 976 / 1102
Bodyweight
MAY 2011 - 67.8kg (149.5lbs)
APR 2012 - 85.6kg (188.7lbs)
AUG 2012 - 76.1kg (167.8lbs)
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