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08-07-2010, 04:20 PM #1Banned
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Non stim preworkout
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08-07-2010, 04:23 PM #210 30 10
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Nothing without stims is going to give you anywhere near the same feeling as one with stims, obviously. If you need energy you need stims in it, pretty simple.Originally Posted by Burtle005
IMO the best stim-free pre on the market is Ultima.Latest Reviews:
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08-07-2010, 04:27 PM #3Registered User
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Neogenix Bodyforge, Ragnarok by MST, also Plasmatic and Ultima, Hemodraulix, Animal Pump minus red (stim) pill, MAN BodyOctane. You will see they are highly regarded
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08-07-2010, 04:34 PM #4Registered User
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Originally Posted by Burtle005
This^^Originally Posted by shadar
No-brainerFocus, concentrate, lift, rest adequately, repeat. No talking.
The only way you will get smarter is by playing a smarter opponent.
The only way you will get stronger is by training with a stronger partner.
If you need to grunt while moving some heavy ass weight in the gym, go for it. I probably can't hear you anyway since I have some Black Sabbath turned to 11 in my ears.
But grunting in the locker room, especially from behind a stall door, is just fooking disturbing. Please refrain.
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08-07-2010, 04:40 PM #5lardazz2hardazz
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I've seen some different opinions on Ultima...But I've yet to see any bad reviews of MAN Body Octane. I love the stuff, and plan on stacking it with clout
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08-07-2010, 04:46 PM #6Banned
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I'll check them out! Thanks guys.
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08-08-2010, 12:29 PM #7The Female Terminator
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It depends on WHAT you want from a preworkout - whether it's the energy, mental focus or aggression, or improvement in endurance, strength, etc.Originally Posted by Burtle005
As far as energy and mental clarity and focus, as mentioned, almost nothing is going to give you as good of an effect as a decent stimulant product.
For everything else (and even the above), try this stack:
Drive - dosed as recommended
IGF-2 - dosed as recommended
Choline Bitartrate - 1g
ALCAR - 2g
Tyrosine - 1g
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08-08-2010, 12:37 PM #8House of Rage
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X2 for bodyforge.. Great energy for a non stim supp
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08-08-2010, 12:50 PM #9Registered User
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I've been real curious about Ultima and have been wanting to give it a shot. Will here in the near future. Based off the profile though, looks amazing.
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08-08-2010, 01:53 PM #10
I haven't tried all the ones listed here but I think MAN Body Octane is very good for a non-stim pre-workout. I'm very sensitive to stims and this didn't cause any problems but still did give me boost of energy. It's got Citrulline and Beta Alanine... two solid non-stim sources of energy. But keep in mind that it takes a little while for these to build up in your system to give you the edge... kind of like creatine. Oh, and the taste is absolutely amazing!!!
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08-09-2010, 06:59 AM #11LiftingDad
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Definitely solid products, I haven't used ultima, but I'd simply replace that with MaximizeV2 as another option. With Rag, it is an all-in-one and the ingredient panel isn't hard to decifer what is in the product and approximate amount/serving. Both caffeine and caffeine free versions, flavor is spot on, and great pumps.Originally Posted by SShred32
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08-09-2010, 07:06 AM #12Registered User
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Went through 2 tubs of bodyforge last year and loved it
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Though MaximizeV2 has stims, its one of the best preworkouts on the market. For non-stim, Hemavol is a great option for non-stimulant energy, pumps, and endurance.Originally Posted by Bnatural
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08-09-2010, 07:49 AM #141,3DMAA ≠ Meth
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I'd recommend Ultima. I've tried MAN's body octane and it simply does not compare to Ultima.
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08-09-2010, 11:47 AM #15Banned
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MAN Body Octane is a stim-free, creatine-free pre-workout energizer that aids greatly in aerobic endurance, recovery and suppressing lactic acid. Plus it is a non-proprietary formula so you know exactly how much of each ingredient you are getting
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08-09-2010, 04:14 PM #16Registered User
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try caff free Xpand xtreme pump,perfect for what you are looking I think!
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08-09-2010, 04:33 PM #17Registered User
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Agreed.Originally Posted by .:Chris:.
But Body Octane stacked with Clout would be a good option in place of Ultima.Focus, concentrate, lift, rest adequately, repeat. No talking.
The only way you will get smarter is by playing a smarter opponent.
The only way you will get stronger is by training with a stronger partner.
If you need to grunt while moving some heavy ass weight in the gym, go for it. I probably can't hear you anyway since I have some Black Sabbath turned to 11 in my ears.
But grunting in the locker room, especially from behind a stall door, is just fooking disturbing. Please refrain.
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08-12-2010, 06:21 PM #18LiftingDad
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def. wasn't trying to dog mv2, I really enjoyed it.Originally Posted by iForce Dave
I got great pumps. I didn't get much from hema though, but its the same with plasmajet. Not sure what the deal is with the pillsYoutube.com/LiftingDad
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