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    Why don't white Americans box anymore?

    Serious question.

    There are currently no white Americans holding any belt in any division.

    You rarely even see white Americans fighting on undercards or as journeyman these days.

    What happened to the Marcianos, Dempseys, De La Mottas? Do you lot not box anymore, or what?
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    They are busy learning the art of UFC.
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    Originally Posted by BOX_UP_YOUR_DAD View Post
    De La Mottas?
    Wow. Sorry to resurrect an old thread but just saw this and, wow. Way to mix Jake LaMotta's name with Oscar De La Hoya, a mexican fighter ironically enough as you're asking why there aren't a lot of white american boxers.

    Or perhaps I'm wrong and De La Motta is actually the cousin of Muhammad Foreman or Sugar Ray Frazier.
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    i have a wild guess.


    will keep it to myself though.
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    what makes you think 'white americans' stopped boxing?
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    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
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    oh...and I'm excited to see what Nick Diaz does in his boxing match match later this year
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    Originally Posted by BladeJrs View Post
    Wow. Sorry to resurrect an old thread but just saw this and, wow. Way to mix Jake LaMotta's name with Oscar De La Hoya, a mexican fighter ironically enough as you're asking why there aren't a lot of white american boxers.

    Or perhaps I'm wrong and De La Motta is actually the cousin of Muhammad Foreman or Sugar Ray Frazier.
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    Originally Posted by Ben6485 View Post
    because they all do something better now....MMA

    oh...and I'm excited to see what Nick Diaz does in his boxing match match later this year
    hope he gets his face ripped off. hate that phaggot


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    Originally Posted by CowboyGenetics View Post
    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
    yeah the guy's right. thats exactly whats happening in my country too. everyone takes karate taekwondo and other such lessons, but noone really dedicates in working out and getting tough enduring physical pain and stuff like that. im the only one among the ppl i know of that has a punching bag.
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    Originally Posted by CowboyGenetics View Post
    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
    Nice analysis.

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    Messiah, I think Zbikowski has a ways to go still before he's really considered a boxer instead of a football player lol.
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    Originally Posted by Messiahtype View Post
    Wtf man dude is crazy not wearing a cup during practice, who goes commando during training like that? I would be too scared if someone stepped on my nuts or kicked me there without a cup (no homo)

    To the TS, Whites actually dominate boxing today. Just not American Whites.

    Eastern Euro's are dominating the sport in the middleweight divisions and heavyweight. They all fight in Germany because they can make 15 to 20 million dollars fighting in their home country.

    Most Americans are scared of the brain damage they might get in boxing, but Football to me is more dangerous, you got guys coming at you full steam ready to throw their body at you with over 200 pounds of force.

    If you have good defense, great athletic ability, reflexes and stamina you shouldn't worry about getting injured in boxing, because a quick KO is probably all you will have to worry about and its safer to get knocked out quick than taking punishment over 12 rounds, if you are a face first brawler who takes punches just to give some, you will suffer big time because of all the repeated clean blows that cause brain trauma. Those are the guys who suffer in boxing.
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    Originally Posted by CowboyGenetics View Post
    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
    This.

    A lot of the fighters in America today are from Mexico or other Latin American countries. My favorite fighters are Roberto Duran & Mayweather.

    MMA has replaced Boxing IMO. In 10 years we're going to look back on MMA today as a sport where the stars got severely underpaid.
    A paradox.
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    Originally Posted by CowboyGenetics View Post
    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
    Good points. It has to do with work ethic, most of the poor American youth today are pretty much spoiled and lazy, we are the only country where the poor are fatter than the rich.

    It's true Whites actually are dominating boxing and Blacks are becoming obsolete in boxing, Blacks used to dominate the sport. If you look at the divisions 147 and below it's dominated by Latinos and now Asians are getting in the mix, and anything above 147 is dominated by Whites from Europe, with a few exceptions, but almost all the top guys in divisions above 147 are White.

    I think White Americans can actually do well in boxing today, but most of them are more into MMA and many of their parents won't let them do boxing because of the head trauma.
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    kelly "the ghost" pavlik is training for a comeback fight on April 17th for the Middle Weight Championship (from what i have read).

    but white people don't box becuase of MMA and the fact that boxing ****ing hurts and working a job is much easier and you probably end up making the same amount of money on average.
    can't ya show some class?
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    Originally Posted by firstandgoal View Post
    Wtf man dude is crazy not wearing a cup during practice, who goes commando during training like that? I would be too scared if someone stepped on my nuts or kicked me there without a cup (no homo)
    Wat

    I never wore a cup in games or practice.... I thought no one did
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    Originally Posted by evilsteve02 View Post
    kelly "the ghost" pavlik is training for a comeback fight on April 17th for the Middle Weight Championship (from what i have read).

    but white people don't box becuase of MMA and the fact that boxing ****ing hurts and working a job is much easier and you probably end up making the same amount of money on average.
    Pavlik was in rehab or something? The guy is tough but he needs a new trainer, his trainer sucks, doesn't even teach Kelly any head movement. I can't stand his trainer, he knows Kelly is his meal ticket and he doesn't want to let him go and it's hurting Pavlik's chances to go to the top again.

    I think he is fighting on the Pacquiao vs. Mosley May 7 super fight, April 17 I think is an HBO boxing card on TV.
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    Originally Posted by firstandgoal View Post
    Pavlik was in rehab or something? The guy is tough but he needs a new trainer, his trainer sucks, doesn't even teach Kelly any head movement. I can't stand his trainer, he knows Kelly is his meal ticket and he doesn't want to let him go and it's hurting Pavlik's chances to go to the top again.

    I think he is fighting on the Pacquiao vs. Mosley May 7 super fight, April 17 I think is an HBO boxing card on TV.
    My girlfriend's family is from Youngstown, and one of her cousins is good friends with Kelly.

    I've seen him multiple times drunk out of his mind and definitely on drugs at their family get-togethers many times.

    Definitely not acting like someone who is a professional fighter and that takes his training seriously.
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    Originally Posted by Backus24 View Post
    My girlfriend's family is from Youngstown, and one of her cousins is good friends with Kelly.

    I've seen him multiple times drunk out of his mind and definitely on drugs at their family get-togethers many times.

    Definitely not acting like someone who is a professional fighter and that takes his training seriously.
    Yeah, He was in rehab twice I believe. In a recent interview he said that people in Youngstown give him weird looks and don't support him anymore like they used to when he was on top, maybe that drove him to drink even more?

    He pulled out of two Manny Pacquiao undercard co main event fights already because of drinking. Those two loses got to him, I hope the guy takes his training serious he is still young. Hopefully he doesn't pull out again from the May 7th fight.
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    Originally Posted by CowboyGenetics View Post
    Boxing has always been a lower class sport. Italian and Irish 1st and 2nd generation Americans used to box but as they have moved into the middle and upper class they have no desire to send their kids off to get hit in the head and suffer brain damage. All boxing gyms are in poor inner cities there are basically none in the suburbs.

    Eastern Europeans now dominate the heavy weight divisions because many of them went through the poverty of the late 80's and 90's.
    yeeeah, im gonna go ahead and say it....

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