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    Breaking through Pain Barrier during extended running / PT (need some advice please)

    Hello,

    I've cut from 301 lbs to 251 in recent months (I'm 6'3). Goal weight is 205 - 210 lbs.

    Been running quite a bit lately, and am really starting to appreciate it and it is becoming addicting. My buddy, who is about the same size as me but a few lbs lighter has been running consistently for a few months now. Last night he ran 3 miles in 19:20, and I ran it in 25:01 (I know, I know - but Im relatively new to running)

    ANYWAYS, he explained before the run that when it starts to suck - and you want to stop - that you SHOULD push through that barrier and things will get easier. Sure enough, I pushed through the pain and I started to feel numb, and felt like I could keep pace for awhile, even at mile 3.

    Is this good to push through like this? Is this the whole point? Part of me thinks my body is trying to tell me to stop, but part of me thinks that this is my body's way to help me keep going? Is there a science to this? Will I have to 'push through' each time I run, or will it get easier over time?

    My goal is run 4 miles in 27 min. or less, and eventually be able to complete a 14 mile run in sand at a ~8:00 min. pace.

    Thanks for your input, guys
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    Of course you push through the pain that is how you progress. I blast really fast metal when I run and it seriously helps.
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    inb4 op has a heart attack at the park


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    Originally Posted by klax410 View Post
    inb4 op has a heart attack at the park


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    thats why I want to make sure im not overdoing it, lol
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    The first 10 minutes of running suck the worst, get past that and you go into robot/beast mode.
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    Originally Posted by pushinplates View Post
    The first 10 minutes of running suck the worst, get past that and you go into robot/beast mode.
    I concur. I thought it only sucked for me because Im a bigger dude....but yes, those first 10 minutes suck bad. Cant get enough air, legs burning lol


    Should I still try to pace myself, or is it going to suck whether I run a bit faster (stride) or jog?
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    The only way to improve every time is to go past your previous barrier every time.. yeah it's good as long as you're not too old or have a pre-existing heart condition.
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    I don't know much about pushing through pain bro but I've done it only a couple times running and you start feeling high and numb. It's a good feeling.

    Lifting is weights is different if you push through the pain barrier to start feeling nothing, numbness and if you pass through that you start blacking out lolz but you def enjoy some running.
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    If it is joint pain, that's very bad. Running is not great for your joints especially at your weight.

    On the other hand, if you're just out of shape, walking for a minute to recover and then running again is a good way to go. For beginning runners it is often recommended to walk a bit for warmup, jog for a minute, walk for a mintue and repeat 10 times. Gradually you decrease the amount of walking, but it's perfectly fine.
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    Originally Posted by Strik9 View Post
    I concur. I thought it only sucked for me because Im a bigger dude....but yes, those first 10 minutes suck bad. Cant get enough air, legs burning lol


    Should I still try to pace myself, or is it going to suck whether I run a bit faster (stride) or jog?
    A tip a friend of mine, who used to run marathons gave me: Breath in through your mouth, out through your nose. When it gets tough, think of breathing right and nothing else and you'll break through it and get 'warmed up'. I hear it's common to hit these barriers every so often. Like 4-5 minutes in, 15-18 minute mark, etc.
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    do you get pains in your sides? That shyt happens to me all the time and I hate it. I usually stop at that point.
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    just focus on breathing. think of how easily you would be breathing if you were walking.
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    Ya, the breathing is what really gets me. I can handle the pain in my legs/hips but when I am starving for oxygen, well, that really sucks. Is there a preferred technique to breathing? I know it has been mentioned to breathe in through mouth and out through nose, will try that tonight when I run
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    Alright, to anyone that cares -

    After I read your guys' responses, I put my running shoes on and went out for a nice run. I started really hating life around the 1 mile mark but just pushed through it. Something weird happened - as I pushed hard, and the suck-factor increased, I started getting these strange chills down my back, like a nerve was pinching or something, but it wasn't painful. I kept on trucking until I felt like I wasn't going to stop, it was like I was just charging it, it was awesome.

    Anyways after I came home I got a fat testosterone surge for some reason and decided to call up the ex, looks like im hittin it tonight lol. Point being - its actually a unique, rewarding feeling when you push through pain, its addicting. might have to go run again tonight
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    Originally Posted by Strik9 View Post
    Ya, the breathing is what really gets me. I can handle the pain in my legs/hips but when I am starving for oxygen, well, that really sucks. Is there a preferred technique to breathing? I know it has been mentioned to breathe in through mouth and out through nose, will try that tonight when I run
    Try raising your arms above your head when you feel like that. It makes it easier to breath.
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    lol wtf is that from?
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    Originally Posted by Darkwatcher758 View Post
    I don't know much about pushing through pain bro but I've done it only a couple times running and you start feeling high and numb. It's a good feeling.

    Lifting is weights is different if you push through the pain barrier to start feeling nothing, numbness and if you pass through that you start blacking out lolz but you def enjoy some running.
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    what an idiot .. .

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    Originally Posted by Strik9 View Post
    My buddy, who is about the same size as me but a few lbs lighter has been running consistently for a few months now. Last night he ran 3 miles in 19:20,
    If your buddy really is a few pounds lighter then you he's lying. That's a pretty fast pace for a dude that size unless he's >6% body fat or something even then it would be hard.

    The dude who said breath in through your mouth and out your nose had it backwards, but it is really hard for starters to do.

    If you really are serious about running, when you AREN'T running try breathing in and you with your nose. Once your body is used to it when you aren't running, it will make the transition into breathing in with the nose and out the mouth a lot easier.

    Also, when you start off running. Start off really slow and gradually run faster. Only increase the pace once your body becomes comfortable with your current pace. This allows your cells to go into "aerobic mode" and their mitochondria can process oxygen at a more optimum rate providing you with more energy = less fatigue. If you just start running even at a moderately uncomfortable pace your body was in resting mode so you will become fatigued a lot faster since it will be providing your cells energy anaerobically, thus using up all of your carb storage.

    I can tell you a lot more if you really want to learn about it.

    A book I can not recommend more is called "Body, Mind, and Sport" by John Douillard. it mentions the importance of breathing techniques and warming up before you run. It also has some dietary undertones that aren't exceptional in my opinion but the rest is good.
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    Originally Posted by Broulders View Post
    If your buddy really is a few pounds lighter then you he's lying. That's a pretty fast pace for a dude that size unless he's >6% body fat or something even then it would be hard.
    Hey man, I haven't read the rest of your reply yet but I wanted to touch on this. No lie on the timed run. Yesterday we were both running the timed 3 miles together at the same time. My goal was to NOT stop, lol - his goal was to be sub-20 minutes, which he achieved. He was holding a pretty good stride throughout the whole time, pretty impressive to see a big dude like that move so quickly. He lapped me 4x in the 3 mile period. Not an exaggeration at all that he 3 miles in 19:20 (actually slightly over 3 miles). The track is actually .31 miles (it's a man made circle track) and he ran 11 laps in that time. Just for reference, his dad is a Major General in the USMC, (2-star) and he just finished his senior year as defensive end at Sac. State. He's about 6'3 245-250 lbs, pretty athletic dude. He's actually enlisting as an Officer with aspirations of being in Force Recon (Marine Corp. Special Operations)
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    Originally Posted by Strik9 View Post
    Hey man, I haven't read the rest of your reply yet but I wanted to touch on this. No lie on the timed run. Yesterday we were both running the timed 3 miles together at the same time. My goal was to NOT stop, lol - his goal was to be sub-20 minutes, which he achieved. He was holding a pretty good stride throughout the whole time, pretty impressive to see a big dude like that move so quickly. He lapped me 4x in the 3 mile period. Not an exaggeration at all that he 3 miles in 19:20 (actually slightly over 3 miles). The track is actually .31 miles (it's a man made circle track) and he ran 11 laps in that time. Just for reference, his dad is a Major General in the USMC, (2-star) and he just finished his senior year as defensive end at Sac. State. He's about 6'3 245-250 lbs, pretty athletic dude. He's actually enlisting as an Officer with aspirations of being in Force Recon (Marine Corp. Special Operations)
    Ahh you didn't mention he was an elite athlete. I believe it now then. Pretty admirable for such a big dude
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