Which DAA product

[chainsaw]

There are a few that are out, which one is best. Any experience?

[arb15_00]

tcf-1 by primordial performance. the ingredients, dosing amount, and dosing protocol are exactly the same ones used in the clinical studies done on DAA. keep in mind it is recommended, by primordial performance, to use it as a part of your pct rather then a standalone.

[THEHUGE]

tcf-1 by primordial performance. the ingredients, dosing amount, and dosing protocol are exactly the same ones used in the clinical studies done on DAA. keep in mind it is recommended, by primordial performance, to use it as a part of your pct rather then a standalone.

The study you're referring to actually used just D-aspartic acid. No sodium DAA, no calcium chelate DAA.

[THEHUGE]

The study you're referring to actually used just D-aspartic acid. No sodium DAA, no calcium chelate DAA.

DADAVIT

COMPONENTS:
Each bottle contains: Purified Water, Sodium hidroxyde, D-Aspartic acid, Sorbate Potassium, Benzoate Sodium. Content of the dosage stopper: Maltodextrin, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12.

[arb15_00]

The study you're referring to actually used just D-aspartic acid. No sodium DAA, no calcium chelate DAA.

heres a study of DAA

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/

[potionmaster]

...just buy the cheapest, no frills, no bs, plain'ol DAA...which i know is running for around $12/100g, enough for 1 month

[ChristianLoving]

I have a log with blood results posted.

Bulk DAA works just fine. Ill NEVER waste money on anything but plain ol' bulk when it comes to DAA.

[wes_mantooth]

Just got mine in the mail today. Starting tomorrow. For $12, why not give it a shot, right?

[THEHUGE]

heres a study of DAA

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/

..and that's just DAA.

[tylerdurden92]

my vote goes for E-Pharm Testforce... Never seen a Patrick Arnold product that wasn't the best in class!

[_NimbusTim_]

my vote goes for E-Pharm Testforce... Never seen a Patrick Arnold product that wasn't the best in class!

X2

Also be on the look out for Test Force V2.

[jcosley]

X2

Also be on the look out for Test Force V2.

What's going to be new in that??? Do you know?

[_NimbusTim_]

What's going to be new in that??? Do you know?

An added a potentiator. I'm not aware of what it is yet, but Pat said it should be out by September.

__________________________________________________ ________________________

Some initial blood work results (Blood work taken 2 days after discontinuing Test Force V2

"TestForce Two" Solo Blood Work
Test Subject #1

Baseline test:

Serum testosterone
value: 20.7
units: nmol/L
range: (8.7 - 29 U)

After 19 days supplementation with E-Pharm Testforce Two:

Serum testosterone
value: 32.4
units: nmol/L
range: (8.7 - 29 U)

I make that about a 57% increase in total testosterone!

Converted to units you may be more familiar with:

Baseline: 596 ng/dL
Range: 250 - 836
Post-TestForce Two: 934 ng/dL

[jcosley]

That's pretty awesome.

[ChristianLoving]

my vote goes for E-Pharm Testforce... Never seen a Patrick Arnold product that wasn't the best in class!

If you want to be a loyal customer and nothing more...that's one thing. But if you're implying that it's actually a BETTER product than the stuff you can for $11.99 for 100g, then I disagree.

If I have to I'll go out and buy Testforce and do a log with bloods on that as well...Just to prove your results won't be any better than using bulk DAA.

[jcosley]

I actually ordered 200 grams of bulk DAA a few days ago, can't wait to try it actually.

[ChristianLoving]

I actually ordered 200 grams of bulk DAA a few days ago, can't wait to try it actually.

You'll be very happy you did.

you don't even need to mix it in anything. Just take it straight and itll dissolve inna few seconds.

Just be cautious of potential mood swings and hyper emotional feelings

When I saw the price drop I immediately jumped on 600 grams. When NP drops prices like that the stuff goes quick and they'll go outta stock. god knows when it'll come back in

[Synapsin]

If you want to be a loyal customer and nothing more...that's one thing. But if you're implying that it's actually a BETTER product than the stuff you can for $11.99 for 100g, then I disagree.

If I have to I'll go out and buy Testforce and do a log with bloods on that as well...Just to prove your results won't be any better than using bulk DAA.

This seems to be your argument for everything. You really think your blood tests are worth any merit if you're constantly using different test boosters and other various products?

[THEHUGE]

You'll be very happy you did.

you don't even need to mix it in anything. Just take it straight and itll dissolve inna few seconds.

Just be cautious of potential mood swings and hyper emotional feelings

When I saw the price drop I immediately jumped on 600 grams. When NP drops prices like that the stuff goes quick and they'll go outta stock. god knows when it'll come back in

I have to disagree here. DAA solubility in water is not very good, just take one gram with 250ml of water.

[ChristianLoving]

This seems to be your argument for everything. You really think your blood tests are worth any merit if you're constantly using different test boosters and other various products?

The only thing I stacked with DAA was T-force.

Now if you want to sit there and give that much credit to T-force then by all means...lol. Cause my test levels went up a LOT.

For arguments sake...

Lets assume T-force DID play a HUGE role. you could buy one bulk DAA + a buy one get one free T-force and have enough for TWO 30 day cycles for $40.


Cmon now...

[ChristianLoving]

I have to disagree here. DAA solubility in water is not very good, just take one gram with 250ml of water.

You're telling me it didn't dissolve in my mouth?

What difference would it make how it got into your body if the solubility is so bad? 250ml of water or spit...supposedly its not supposed to work too well either way.

Regardless I'd be more than happy to relog bulk DAA in the future solo...ran the exact same way. I'm confident the results will be almost exactly the same. I would not have been so quick to purchase 600g of the stuff otherwise.

[jcosley]

You'll be very happy you did.

you don't even need to mix it in anything. Just take it straight and itll dissolve inna few seconds.

Just be cautious of potential mood swings and hyper emotional feelings

When I saw the price drop I immediately jumped on 600 grams. When NP drops prices like that the stuff goes quick and they'll go outta stock. god knows when it'll come back in

Same here, when I saw that price I couldn't pass it up. I actually saw it on another site for 11.99 also.

And who cares about the stuff dissovling, you only have to take like 3 grams a day correct? Thats practically nothing....what is that like 1/4 tsp? Geezus...people complain just to complain I think sometimes.

[ChristianLoving]

Same here, when I saw that price I couldn't pass it up. I actually saw it on another site for 11.99 also.

And who cares about the stuff dissovling, you only have to take like 3 grams a day correct? Thats practically nothing....what is that like 1/4 tsp? Geezus...people complain just to complain I think sometimes.

That's how I see it. So what if I have to take more to get it to work...I have SO MUCH of it , it makes no difference at all

[jcosley]

That's how I see it. So what if I have to take more to get it to work...I have SO MUCH of it , it makes no difference at all

How much is a normal dosage, 3 grams a day?

[THEHUGE]

You're telling me it didn't dissolve in my mouth?

What difference would it make how it got into your body if the solubility is so bad? 250ml of water or spit...supposedly its not supposed to work too well either way.

Regardless I'd be more than happy to relog bulk DAA in the future solo...ran the exact same way. I'm confident the results will be almost exactly the same. I would not have been so quick to purchase 600g of the stuff otherwise.

Straight D-aspartic acid has poor solubility (1 gram/220 milliliters of water). So it sits in your GI tract as a gritty powder and absorbs pretty slowly and erractically. So either you use a chelated version or take small doses with enough water several times a day..

[jcosley]

Straight D-aspartic acid has poor solubility (1 gram/220 milliliters of water). So it sits in your GI tract as a gritty powder and absorbs pretty slowly and erractically. So either you use a chelated version or take small doses with enough water several times a day..

But if you took 3 grams a day in the morning, drank water throughout the day, and take it at the same time everyday, it wouldnt really matter though would it?

[THEHUGE]

But if you took 3 grams a day in the morning, drank water throughout the day, and take it at the same time everyday, it wouldnt really matter though would it?

Do you really believe that the water you drink in the afternoon is going to dissolve the powder you ingested in the morning?

[ChristianLoving]

How much is a normal dosage, 3 grams a day?

I was taking 5.5g every night before bed.

[ChristianLoving]

Straight D-aspartic acid has poor solubility (1 gram/220 milliliters of water). So it sits in your GI tract as a gritty powder and absorbs pretty slowly and erractically. So either you use a chelated version or take small doses with enough water several times a day..

Is it possible that taking it before bed fixes this? Due to the fact the digestion slows down greatly while sleeping? I was always taking it on an empty stomach. It was at least 4 hours since my last meal when doing so. So the DAA pretty much sat there alone in my stomach and GI tract for 6-7 hours over night.

[THEHUGE]

Is it possible that taking it before bed fixes this? Due to the fact the digestion slows down greatly while sleeping? I was always taking it on an empty stomach. It was at least 4 hours since my last meal when doing so. So the DAA pretty much sat there alone in my stomach and GI tract for 6-7 hours over night.

Without enough water, I doubt it. I bet you would have seen even better results with a lower dose fully dissolved.