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It's all science and mathematics, my friends. Let's just think about it logically. A gorilla is certainly strong, but primarily in movements that are natural to its adaptations. I like the GUINESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORD'S 1985 edition estimate that a STRONG and healthy AVERAGE silverback gorilla could probably deadlift about 2 times that of the world's strongest man (if it were trained). The scientists used actual performance of chimpanzees in specific movements to estimate that an average highly trained (500 lb.) silverback gorilla might deadlift 1,800 lbs whereas the world's strongest men might deadlift 900 lbs. An average man might deadlift 200 lbs.
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No other research to date has been based on as much hard evidence. Even so, these estimates are very rough.
Case in point: This evidence indicates that an average 500 lb. silverback gorilla MIGHT be 9 times stronger than an average man and 2 times stronger than the world's strongest man (but only in movements that it excels at).
The estimates used by shows on the Discovery channel argue that silverback gorillas are 20 times stronger than average humans. These estimates are not valid because they are based on gorillas breaking bamboo. Why are the estimates invalid? The gorilla often bites the bamboo which makes it easier to break. Hence this is not a pure arm strength measurement! The Discovery channel pretends it is scientific estimate of the gorillas arm strength.
These estimates are even more ridiculous because they assume that just because the gorilla is much stronger than humans in certain movements that this automatically transfers to a lot of other movements. In other words, Discovery took the bogus 20 times stronger figure and applied it to overhead lifts (which gorillas would suck at). This is just absurd and is very poor scientific thinking. The whole thing is ridiculous.
A gorilla CANNOT lift 4,000 lbs. overhead. This is not an opinion. It is a fact. I say this with almost absolute certainty. A gorilla CANNOT lift 2,000 lbs. overhead. This isn't because a gorilla is weak. A gorilla would struggle to maintain balance if it tried to press a weight greater than its own bodyweight overhead. Its legs don't have the right balance of stabilizing muscles, its back is not erect enough, and its arms are too long. An overhead press would not even be a fair test of the gorilla's strength! The bench press would be easier for the gorilla, but the gorilla still has mechanical disadvantages (i.e. extremely long arms). I would be absolutely shocked if a gorilla could bench press anywhere near 2,000 lbs even with extensive training. (And yes, I'm assuming the gorilla cooperated.)
If the strongest man on the planet can bench-press 700 lbs. (without support gear), a trained healthy male silverback gorilla may or may not be able to match that. I don't know. We just don't know the gorillas potential. So many factors make it difficult to guess. Physical strength is a very complex characteristic involving multiple factors (mass, neuroligical efficiency, tendon shape etc.).
In conclusion, a gorilla is certainly much stronger than an average man in MOST movements, but possibly weaker than the world's strongest men in some movements. Humans are good at overhead lifts. World class power lifters are well designed for bench pressing. Gorillas might beat the strongest men in most upper body movements, but not all of them.
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besides the face they are 3-4 deeper through the chest than the average male human they use the chest shoulders and lats on a daily basis, unlike us. That and add in the wild animal rage factor............who knows, would not be suprised if they could bench a tonne?
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According to science, a silverback gorilla is capable of benching over 10x its bodyweight, which would fall somewhere between 4,500-4,750lbs. Primates have pure beast strength that cannot be fathomed without feeling one's power hand to hand. Not exactly sure if its unorthodox posture would allow it to lift such heavy weight... but its strength is equivalent to a human who could bench that much, if you know what I mean. Though, obviously no human could come anywhere near that number, haha.
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Wow, people need to take college biology
A full grown chimpanzee, which is physically close to a human anatomically, have been recorded lifting somewhere around 800 lbs. An Orangutan is about 7 times stronger than a human. I've seen an orangutan actually pull an engine block out of a vehicle and throw it.
A silverback gorilla despite what you think by appearance is approximately 15 to 20 times stronger than a human. I was one of those kids that loved animals. So, I had many opportunities to observe animals in their natural habitat. Primates, like large gorillas are built to compensate for living in the wild and dealing with predators. So yes, a large Silverback gorilla, enraged, could easily lift 3000 lbs. I've seen Gorillas rend steel cages and crush metal containers, and turn large vehicles (cargo trucks) over with very little effort.
To think a human is trying to compare their workout regimen with that of a large primate. A primates physiology is evolved to be able to utilize muscles that humans do not have. Even if you injected yourself with gorilla hormones (for several years) you wouldn't be anywhere as strong as a large primate.
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