Does any one do the iso exercises for strengh ?

[e45]

Like curls skull crushers lat raises ? Do Any of use aim to try and get these lifts up ?
When I say up I mean aim for a heavy weight ?

[koyongi]

There is really NO point to getting really good at any DB exercise. They are, however, good to use for building strength for the lifts that actually matter. (Takeaway point: Anything shorter than a set of 5 with DBs is probably silly.)

[skinnycalves]

I think they are absolutely essential to shoulder rehab/prehab.

Look up "Shoulder savers" parts 1 and 2 by Eric Cressey on tmuscle.com. I think you should read both parts in their entirety, but the 5th item in part 1 is especially important.

[Farley1324]

I do not. I don't know if I am necessarily doing it right, but it has worked so far and from what I have read I see no need for isolations in a strength routine, personally.

I probably do an isolation excercis once or twice a month, though I plan to change things after my deload and vacation, at which point I may do two isolation excercises per week.

[e45]

There is really NO point to getting really good at any DB exercise.

What about the snatch and swings


Also I just mean do any of use want to get strong at these not because it will improve other lifts just because you want to
226 lb curl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bTJ...eature=related

skullcrusher 150kg skullcrushers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0y_...eature=related

[SetYourGoals]

Also I just mean do any of use want to get strong at these not because it will improve other lifts just because you want to
226 lb curl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bTJ...eature=related

skullcrusher 150kg skullcrushers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0y_...eature=related

i've been working on curling lately to fill out my ed hardy and affliction t-shirts a little better. i watched the premiere of jersey shore 2 and the situation had bigger guns than me

[e45]

i've been working on curling lately to fill out my ed hardy and affliction t-shirts a little better. i watched the premiere of jersey shore 2 and the situation had bigger guns than me

haha I don't mean to do it just to get your arms bigger just wanted to know if any one strength trains these muscles.

An a bet your being seriouse as well arnt you sittin there with a maharishi combats on and about to take you ed hardy top off to inject some synthol intout your traps and guns

[Retardo-pex]

Like curls skull crushers lat raises ? Do Any of use aim to try and get these lifts up ?
When I say up I mean aim for a heavy weight ?

I mean yeah I always try to use more weight but to a point. If I'm picking up heavier stones or squatting more but do a rep less on my DB hammer curl I still consider what I'm doing successful.

[SetYourGoals]

haha I don't mean to do it just to get your arms bigger just wanted to know if any one strength trains these muscles.

as you must know from the vid you posted, people who compete in strict curl comps certainly train that lift... but generally curling and iso talk garners snickers on the PL forum, so you should probably forget about heavy weights in those lifts and concentrate on the big 3.

[pjb12]

What about the snatch and swings


Also I just mean do any of use want to get strong at these not because it will improve other lifts just because you want to
226 lb curl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bTJ...eature=related

skullcrusher 150kg skullcrushers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0y_...eature=related

Did I just watch a guy OH press 264lbs with a bucket on his head??? WTF?

[e45]

as you must know from the vid you posted, people who compete in strict curl comps certainly train that lift... but generally curling and iso talk garners snickers on the PL forum, so you should probably forget about heavy weights in those lifts and concentrate on the big 3.

Yeh I know that I just wanted to know though is any one aiming for like a 50kg lat raise lol

[Retardo-pex]

Yeh I know that I just wanted to know though is any one aiming for like a 50kg lat raise lol

Babyslayer has a youtube vid of some lat raises in the neighborhood of 100 lbs, not super strict but still beastly to me considering I'd have to use that form to do like 55 lbs :P

[jmt92]

yes to ASSIST the main movements(max effort stuff and supplemental).

I use whatever gets the pump going and taxes the muscle being worked, the end.I dont try to go up in weight everytime, just every so often i figure out that something is too easy so I use more weight.

[swolegantor]

Those skull crushers were not skull crushers by any stretch.

[trapmaster]

Those skull crushers were not skull crushers by any stretch.

looked like a bench press to the forehead

[jmt92]

Those skull crushers were not skull crushers by any stretch.

Ive seen worse...the guys at my gym have started doing, what they call"chest skullchrushers" where they basically do half bench to their tits with the ez curl bar....

[Blue Blazer]

some iso exercises can help, I'm not really talking db preacher curls and tricep extensions while balancing on a bosu ball here lol.

I think some exercises like chest supported rows, one arm db rows, skullcrushers, JH extensions, hypers, ab work, etc. Maybe some of these aren't quite isos but you see my point. Doing some good accessory work can help your big lifts, maybe won't do wonders, but Wendler said himself in the 5/3/1 e-book that Kroc Rows really helped. Key is find good accessory work (where you may have some isos) and just do them

[Ka0s]

Nah, I just use light weights (30 or 40# DBs depending on the exercise) and use good form. To get a "pump" and shit, I dunno

[AHTTG]

What about the snatch and swings


Also I just mean do any of use want to get strong at these not because it will improve other lifts just because you want to
226 lb curl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bTJ...eature=related

skullcrusher 150kg skullcrushers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0y_...eature=related

LMAO. The skullcrusher guy is hilarious

[Ka0s]

huge close grip benching with no lockout ^^

[ZaeYeL]

sad thing is that guy actually seems pretty strong atleast upperbody wise

[AHTTG]

huge inofficial world record close grip benching with no lockout ^^

fixed

[BigJim1971]

Definitely seems more like a close grip bench then skull crushers. He still is pretty strong though.

[mikeatnscc]

body weight squats on a bosu ball for teh winz

[DanielBeauchamp]

Only thing approaching an isolation I ever do is a curl; and even then it's a power curl, not a strict one.

[Big Sexy J]

Only thing approaching an isolation I ever do is a curl; and even then it's a power curl, not a strict one.

You do them with high reps?

[DanielBeauchamp]

You do them with high reps?

Nothing I can get for more than 5 or 6.

[JacobRothenberg]

I do...

Tate presses
Tricep pushdowns
Lat pulldowns
Seated rows
Lateral raises
Hyperextensions
Ab stuff

[Big Sexy J]

65% of my training is bodybuilding isolation movements for 10-20 reps.

[jmt92]

btw OP, I dont consider things like rows and such as "iso" lifts

they use your back, rear delts, some traps, bi's, and forearms.

concentration curls use your biceps and forearms to grip the weight..unless you use straps...in which case you're a pussy.